Was there even HTML back then?
Posted on 12/08/2006 10:04:30 AM PST by Snickering Hound
Boys at Monticello High School have allegedly been pressuring girls to pose nude and then were sharing the photographs with others.
More than 30 girls may have been victims in what San Juan County Sheriff Mike Lacy is calling a child pornography case.
Lacy said his office has completed its probe and referred its findings to the Utah Attorney General's Office for possible criminal charges.
As many as eight boys are believed to be involved, though four appear to have been the biggest culprits, Lacy said.
Some of those teenagers have turned 18 and could face charges as adults.
"Some of this has been going on for two or three years," Lacy said. "By the time we got the report, it just kind of snowballed."
In some instances, boys drove girls into the mountains near Monticello. The boys told the girls that if they wanted a ride down, they needed to bare themselves for the camera, authorities said.
Photographs were taken with cell phones and exchanged through cell communication and by computer, Lacy said.
The Utah Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force, based in the Attorney General's Office, participated in the investigation.
John Soltis, the attorney general's office prosecutor assigned to the case, said he is reviewing the evidence but declined further comment
San Juan School District Superintendent Doug Wright said investigators came to Monticello High School at the start of the school year to interview students. The district told the detectives that administrators must be present in the interviews so the investigators elected to speak to students off campus, Wright said.
Wright said the district has no knowledge of any of the incidents occurring at school, and no students have been disciplined.
note the term "pressuring" not "forcing".
Yeah, I noticed that, too. Does that indicate some kind of tacit approval by the young ladies?
Yeah, that's not an old trick...How stupid are these girls?
Of course, women are so weak minded that they are never responsible for their behavior. **eyes roll***
They probably even posted the pictures of themselves on Myspace.
It's tricky when everybody is a kid. There was a girl I believe arrested for child pornography. She was 15 and selling photos of herself. So she was the "victim" and the "pornographer" all at the same time.
This thread is useless without photos.
Owl_Eagle
If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.
This is beyond "pressuring", IMO.
I had a good friend in high school who was put in a "put out or get out" situation by her date, in the middle of winter, miles away from home. She got out. She also very nearly died from hypothermia.
Sounds like forcing to me...
The girls I grew up with would have said "See ya" and sent me on my way. If I had been inhuman enough to actually leave them out in the middle of nowhere some fathers would have hunted me down.
Teenage boys wanted girls to take their clothes off? No way!
Was there even HTML back then?
I'm not going to go that far...I believe that the girls were taken advantage of. However, putting yourself into a situation like that with a teenage boy...I guess they got too many feminist platitudes and not enough common sense during their formative years.
None of these girls had cell phones? C'mon, who doesn't have a cell phone these days?
If my daughter was one of these girls, the police would be the least of those boys' worries.
an old high school Photography Club trick ("Trust me. It's art and I will burn the negatives....")
Oh, I have never tried that, will it work?? ;)
I dunno; It seems like the people who are willing to pose for art students are never the type of people anyone would want to see naked...
Ah yes. The wonderful fruit of the progressive Age of Aquarius.
>hurl my lungs out<
I hate these f**kers so much that what I want to do to them would count as a war crime.
I find that no matter what the woman looks like, her internal beauty always comes out.
Yea the girls were nice and innocent..all 30 of em....
Under the duress of being abandoned to walk back down out of the mountains, the approval could hardly be considered valid.
By "internal beauty", do you mean "ta-tas"?
Those "adolescent shenanigans" frequently have very long-lasting consequences for their victims. Such adolescents, and apparently you as well, blithely ignore the effect of such an experience on the girls.
No, it's not as serious as other actions would be, but it's not just a harmless prank either.
Could be. Read this from yesterday. 13 year old girl and 12 year old boy are both perpetrators and victims of sex crime.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1749868/posts
All one has to do is say no ..... and no again and then walk away.
Well, no. That is what they usually do, and it is expected, in one way or another. But that isn't the same thing as "supposed to do".
All US citizens who are eligible are supposed to vote. But we know that many don't, so we don't expect it to happen. That's the difference between "supposed to" and "expected to".
"Supposed" means meeting a given standard. Even for adolescents, the accepted (not expected) standard of behavior is higher. Even if people are expected to commit a given number of crimes each year, it isn't the same as saying they're "supposed to" commit them. ...and we still punish them.
Yes, it is. Embarrassment from people seeing them nekid is the worst "long lasting consequence" these girls will have.
You aptly illustrate the very essence of hubris: "It wouldn't embarrass me, therefore it shouldn't embarrass her." ...and that you have any clue how the experience will affect each of them.
Pat yourself on the back.
Maybe it's a stupid girl thing...But if I found out there were nekkid pictures of me floating around somewhere, I think I'd lose it, I really do.
I am sure they were pissed.
From a fathers point of view:
If the girls took pictures willingly = I'd kick the girls ass and inform the boys parents.
If the boys showed their pictures to poeple = I'd inform the boys parents and assure the girl that it will soon be forgotten.
If the boys forced the girls = I would bypass the parents and beat the boy with his own camera (or a baseball bat) and take the girl to a councelor.
But the next generation of boys will be wanting to take pictures of nekid girls just like every other generation before them.
I don't know if I could explain it...or if it's even rationale. But I can imagine the kind of panic attack I would have. I can imagine waking up every morning and hating myself, even if I had willingly posed for the picture. Maybe that's just me, though. We seem to have killed off every inclination towards modesty in girls and replaced it with a Paris Hilton-like exhibitionism.
In contrast, if Mr. Legs found nudie pictures of himself online, he'd probably be flattered beyond words. :-)
I've known teenage girls to freak out over way less....
If I didn't feel so 'wrecked' I'd tell you a thing or two....
Later....
Mebby.
Indeed. I've done stupid things, years ago...I still want to poke a fork into my eyeball when I recall them. Some stuff just never goes away. :-P
Some things you just want to forget...You have nightmares about them.
Being threatened with walking back down a mountain ain't 'coercing'....its something worse....
But I can't think of the word.
"Puerile" and "vapid" are probably better words....
And since engravings, paints, or cave walls.
You almost made me spit pineapple all over my keyboard. :-P
just out of curiousity.. what kind of girls do you suppose it was that went up into the mountains in the first place?
especially since if this has been going on for years, and none of the girls has pressed charges.
Just walk away? Down a mountain by themselves? Nice.
especially since if this has been going on for years, and none of the girls has pressed charges.
What kind of woman would stay with a man who beats her? Yet it happens all the time.
The fact that the girls continued to go with, or even protect and defend, the guys who did this does not not mean it was harmless.
There was a situation that I walked away from late one night. I figured my chances were better than staying where I was.
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