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Just Saw Apocalypto...Need Help With 3 Things (Spoiler Questions)
12-12-06 | my favorite headache

Posted on 12/12/2006 7:02:41 PM PST by My Favorite Headache

Just saw Mel Gibson's Apocalypto an hour ago and I have two or three historical questions pertaining to the film that I am still not clear on.

1. Who was it that is approaching the shoreline at the end of the film? They appear to be Vikings of some sort...was this the start of a colony there?

2. Why did the 2 evil warriors stop at the shore and walk towards them and not kill him? Were they stunned by the ships and the fact that the men looked that different and were white?

3. Was any of this based on a true story or was it merely a story that was created out of a historical period where these horrific things happened?

Thanks in advance!


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; History; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: apocalypto; melgibson

1 posted on 12/12/2006 7:02:43 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache

By the way I do know that the rituals and attacks happened..I am asking if the story based on this man's events were real or based off anything like it.


2 posted on 12/12/2006 7:04:30 PM PST by My Favorite Headache ("Head-On...Apply Directly To The Forehead, Head-On...Apply Directly To The Forehead")
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To: My Favorite Headache
1. The men approaching the shore were representive of the explorers from Europe, probably Spain.

2. The two men went to the men coming ashore, assumedly, because they believed the Gods had returned. Or something like that.

3. I think the story is largely one based on the period, and not probably a true story.

3 posted on 12/12/2006 7:08:19 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

The Spanish explorers.. Right they were just stunned to see the strangers...Not historical in plot but in culture pretty close.


4 posted on 12/12/2006 7:09:25 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Enterprise

As I've always understood it the Spaniards were originally welcomed as Gods.


5 posted on 12/12/2006 7:10:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I think there were legends about hairy, light-skinned people/gods. Which apparently was why the Spaniards were accepted as such so easily.


6 posted on 12/12/2006 7:12:25 PM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: cripplecreek

That's the way I understood it also.


7 posted on 12/12/2006 7:13:19 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Enterprise

Thank you all who replied..it helps clear it up for me...I was left very curious as to why they just stopped cold like that.


8 posted on 12/12/2006 7:16:15 PM PST by My Favorite Headache ("Head-On...Apply Directly To The Forehead, Head-On...Apply Directly To The Forehead")
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To: Enterprise
Circa 800 AD, right in the middle of the Late Classical Maya period (when there were still Maya around who particularly cared for the stone monuments and stockaded cities) the bow and arrow showed up in the Americas.

Had to be somewhere.

This may be it.

If you have Spaniards landing, that would be in the post classic Maya period, and the cities, towns and warrior socities, etc. were no longer working, or had been totally abandoned for centuries.

9 posted on 12/12/2006 7:20:45 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Enterprise

It's really interesting that the most sacred Aztec god (Quetzalcoatl) was sometimes depicted as having a beard and white skin.


http://www.crystalinks.com/quetzalcoatl.html


10 posted on 12/12/2006 7:22:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: muawiyah

You are probably the closest of all of us on the time period.


11 posted on 12/12/2006 7:26:32 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: cripplecreek

LOL - maybe I qualify then. I have a mustache and white skin.


12 posted on 12/12/2006 7:27:24 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Some reviewer I saw alluded to that fact that it was supposed to be Chistopher Columbus (3 ships) but I'm not convinced, as Mel was compelled to focus on the priest in one of the boats.


13 posted on 12/12/2006 10:10:12 PM PST by Bush_Democrat (Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)
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To: Bush_Democrat
...as Mel was compelled to focus on the priest in one of the boats.

Well, the priest (Franciscan?) was holding a large cross to plant in the sand.

As far as being profoundly distracted to the point of ignoring Jaquar Paw....if you suddenly came upon humans with skin color never seen before...?

14 posted on 12/12/2006 10:16:59 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: My Favorite Headache
#1 - Maybe Hernán Cortés (also spelled Cortez), Marqués Del Valle De Oaxaca (1485-1547) was a Spanish adventurer and conquistador (he was also a failed law student) who overthrew the Aztec empire and claimed Mexico for Spain (1519-21).

#2 - The two were spiritual and believed the people were gods or spirits perhaps.

#3 - Yes it was based on reality.

All explained here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP2Fp7vJD4E
15 posted on 12/12/2006 10:23:49 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Nice, you got me....


16 posted on 12/13/2006 7:31:15 AM PST by Bush_Democrat (Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)
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To: My Favorite Headache

What I want to know is: am I the only one who thought the heart-ripping Aztec high priest looked like Manuel Noriega?


17 posted on 12/13/2006 3:16:12 PM PST by farmer18th
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To: My Favorite Headache

Was it good?


18 posted on 12/15/2006 1:24:47 PM PST by RobFromGa (I'm still optimistic about our future!)
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To: farmer18th

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT!


19 posted on 12/15/2006 4:37:07 PM PST by My Favorite Headache ("Head-On...Apply Directly To The Forehead, Head-On...Apply Directly To The Forehead")
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To: RobFromGa

Rob I give it 5 stars....best film of the year..just awesome. Very moving and keeps you on the edge of your seat. If it means ANYTHING...United 93 was in my book the only film to truly impact me in any way this year up until this film.

Go see it.


20 posted on 12/15/2006 4:38:20 PM PST by My Favorite Headache ("Head-On...Apply Directly To The Forehead, Head-On...Apply Directly To The Forehead")
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To: My Favorite Headache

I went and saw it last night, and Apocalypto was a great movie. As you said, non-stop action and it didn't drag even once.

The brutality of man is well-explored in this movie, and it also showed how lightly human life has been valued throughout history. The Muzzies want to bring us all back to such a time.

Thanks for the recommendation.


21 posted on 12/16/2006 5:52:28 AM PST by RobFromGa (I'm still optimistic about our future!)
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To: RobFromGa

Was it good? No, it was AWESOME!! :)


22 posted on 12/17/2006 11:26:14 AM PST by wndycndy (Beagles For Bush!)
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To: wndycndy

I loved it too! Very intense action movie. Looking forward to Rocky Balboa next week.


23 posted on 12/17/2006 12:17:18 PM PST by RobFromGa (I'm still optimistic about our future!)
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