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Mel Gibson's Apocalyptic Stupidity
Human Events.com ^ | December 13, 2006 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 12/13/2006 4:59:55 AM PST by UltraConservative

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Great comment! The movie is interesting, but Shapiro is right on.
1 posted on 12/13/2006 5:00:00 AM PST by UltraConservative
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Warning: There are spoilers. If you are intent on seeing this movie, read no further

I have better things to do with my money, thank you.
Mel goes from idiot to idiot, with brief excursions into normalcy.

2 posted on 12/13/2006 5:04:21 AM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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Gibson will be interviewed on Fox and Friends in a few minutes. I am interested to see if he continues this same line of discussion.

A lot of people were telling me that this movie was a metaphor about the coming of Christianity, etc.

That isn't what Mel says, apparently.

3 posted on 12/13/2006 5:04:36 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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To: UltraConservative

one's values doesn't give strength, that takes might - muscle. being unified behind that muscle, adn willing to use it to defend and promote those values does.

History is replete with high value cultures that failed due to disunity, or unwillingness/inability to defend themselves.

one could also use this movie to show another POV: The barbaric (Radical islams) are unified behind their power and hate, while the western society isn't capable of defending itself against the horde of invaders...


4 posted on 12/13/2006 5:05:26 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: UltraConservative

He wants to get some Oscar nominations and satisfy Hollywood liberals by telling them what they love best: Bash President Bush.


5 posted on 12/13/2006 5:09:35 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Miss Marple
Gibson will be interviewed on Fox and Friends in a few minutes

Whoa...I just flipped over there after reading your post. If Gibson's going to do a 5am interview, he really oughta get up before 4:45...

6 posted on 12/13/2006 5:10:52 AM PST by ErnBatavia (recent nightmare: Googled up "Helen Thomas nude"....)
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A thoroughly unsatisfactory interview.


7 posted on 12/13/2006 5:13:08 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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To: Miss Marple

Agree!!!!!!


8 posted on 12/13/2006 5:16:09 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!)
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To: jveritas

Watched Mel On Fox and Friends a few minutes ago. A very uncomfortable interview. Mel seemed to be holding back hostility. Probably toward Fox. If he did the interview to change opinions of him, it was a waste of time.


9 posted on 12/13/2006 5:16:53 AM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: indylindy

Do you believe he didn't know about the Holocaust Denial conference? I don't.


10 posted on 12/13/2006 5:18:34 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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I don't believe that either. I think Mel is still in denial. Frankly , he wasn't too impressive.


11 posted on 12/13/2006 5:20:32 AM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: UltraConservative

Just not into Gibson's gorefest films, especially during the holidays.


12 posted on 12/13/2006 5:20:42 AM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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That's another thing: why was this released at Christmas, and not during the summer?


13 posted on 12/13/2006 5:22:41 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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To: UltraConservative

Before anyone passes judgment on the film itself, you might go see it and decide for yourself. I know a handful of folks I consider to be very conservative Christians who have seen the movie and actually enjoyed it. One is a bit of a history buff when it comes to Mayan civilization.

Gibson's comments sound rather lame, yes. But as a film maker, he has come into his own. And as I also have an interest in Mayan culture, I will go see the movie as well.

And by the way - the "great" Mayan power was not brought down by a society that was more powerful. They were doomed by a long drought that eventually weakened them to not even a shadow of their former power. The Spanish only had to over throw small villages and "farms". No real opposition from the Mayan remnant.


14 posted on 12/13/2006 5:23:23 AM PST by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: UltraConservative
Gibson's point is this: Mayan civilization in decline had corrupted itself through brutality and barbarity.

I don't think that's his point at all.

The prime focus of Mel's loathing is Israel, not America. In his worldview it is Israel that is "capturing" innocent Americans and dragging them to Afghanistan and Iraq to be sacrificed on the altar of Zionism.

15 posted on 12/13/2006 5:23:49 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: UltraConservative
where throngs cheer wildly as power-mad priests engage in ritual human sacrifice, pulling still-beating hearts from chest cavities

How is watching the movie any different?

16 posted on 12/13/2006 5:24:18 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Rudy 08...If ya can't beat em, join em.)
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the author has an excellent point. expanding on it, if Western civilization is doomed, it is because film producers like Gibson have inexorably lowered the standard of "acceptable" entertainment, each time creating works that are more gruesome, more violent, and each time less respectful of human life.

it is the height of hypocrisy for Gibson to make a bloodthirsty film like this and then turn around and claim that its viewers are corrupt and degenerate because they actually watched it.

17 posted on 12/13/2006 5:24:46 AM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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Sorry, I am not going to go see this. I can still see the final death scene in "Bonnie and Clyde" in my mind's eye 40 years after I unwittingly saw that movie.

I don't care to have images of human sacrifice floating around in my brain.

18 posted on 12/13/2006 5:25:14 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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"A thoroughly unsatisfactory interview."

Whew. Mrs Felis is carless today so I had to take her to work. I thought I would be missing something worth seeing. Apparently not...


19 posted on 12/13/2006 5:26:11 AM PST by Felis_irritable
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To: jveritas; Miss Marple
If Mel was looking to get back in the good graces of the hollywood crowd, he shoulda tried something different, say liberal propaganda meant for children, for example. (He shoulda also done a better job of keeping his bigotry under control, but that's a different matter.)

Mel will succeed in getting their attention, but only for a short time. They're far ahead of us in figuring out that "Mel has issues", but they won't lift a finger to help him. By hollywood rules, his fifteen minutes are up.

20 posted on 12/13/2006 5:26:46 AM PST by OKSooner
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