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Mel Gibson's Apocalyptic Stupidity
Human Events.com ^ | December 13, 2006 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 12/13/2006 4:59:55 AM PST by UltraConservative

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To: tarheelswamprat

As another poster said, if it weren't for FR, I wouldn't have heard of that conference.

It's quite clear regarding Gibson's opinions on US foreign policy that he doesn't pay much attention to events either.


101 posted on 12/13/2006 9:41:49 AM PST by AmishDude (I coined "Senator Ass" to describe Jim Webb. He may have already used it as a character in a novel.)
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To: veronica

"Please. Which David Lean movies have you seen? Not one Gibson film has a story or screenplay to rival The Bridge On The River Kwai, or Lawrence of Arabia. Not even in the same league."



We have all seen those movies, and many of his others, I never watched Dr. Zhivago but most everyone else has.

I shouldn't have said Mel was much better, but so far I think Mel has already equaled, or surpassed David, yet Mel has only been at it a few years.

David Leans really great movies were made at a stage of his career that Mel hasn't reached yet.

It is a little unfruitful arguing about movies, but we can try comparing their talent again when Mel gets another 30 years under his belt, by then I think there won't be much argument to it.

David Lean made a couple of my favorites, but he never reached the glorious heights of " The Passion of the Christ".


102 posted on 12/13/2006 9:43:51 AM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: ansel12
Mel Gibson made the best Vietnam war movie ever made



Mel Gibson didn't direct or produce We Were Soldiers. Randall Wallace directed the movie. Unless something unorthodox went on, it's safe to assume that Randall Wallace is the one who visualized We Were Soldiers. Wallace probably guided the movie's editor, but not necessarily. IOW, the movie is Wallace's.....not Gibson's.

(Gibson didn't direct The Patriot either...even though it's been claimed here otherwise.)
103 posted on 12/13/2006 9:44:45 AM PST by macamadamia
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To: tarheelswamprat
You see, I don't believe he did know about it. I think he's deeply anti-Semitic and at the same time doesn't think he is. So he's not going to have somebody scanning the Jerusalem Post and the Forward and every other paper for Jewish news. The best strategy for him is to not comment on anything Jewish. No matter what happens, he loses. He doesn't want any headlines associating him with anything Jewish. Even "Gibson comments on holocaust conference" is bad news for him on the Oscar front. "There's Mel, obsessed with the Joooos again."

Besides, it would be quite easy to avoid news of this conference.

104 posted on 12/13/2006 9:50:43 AM PST by AmishDude (I coined "Senator Ass" to describe Jim Webb. He may have already used it as a character in a novel.)
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To: Miss Marple
That's another thing: why was this released at Christmas, and not during the summer?

I believe films released in December have been proven to have an inside track for Oscars.

Short attention span of public and media, IMO.

105 posted on 12/13/2006 9:51:19 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: tarheelswamprat

He has the number one movie, I think not suckering for all the middle east baiting is a good way to go.

The American people in general, want to hear Hollywood great Mel Gibson talk about his latest smash hit about the Mayans, not foreign affairs.


106 posted on 12/13/2006 9:52:13 AM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: AmishDude
As another poster said, if it weren't for FR, I wouldn't have heard of that conference. It's quite clear regarding Gibson's opinions on US foreign policy that he doesn't pay much attention to events either.

And, as my post made quite clear, that excuse doesn't wash for a "professional" entertainer/movie producer ostensibly trying to promote his business. No matter what else you think it to be, the movie business IS a business, and failure to do the extremely simple things that help maximize your success, such as doing a little basic prep and giving a little forethought to issues and questions that you should know ARE going to be raised by interviewers, is both unprofessional AND foolish. It denotes a dangerous detachment from reality. I'm not trying to bash Gibson - I'm pointing-out these things in the spirit of trying to help him.

107 posted on 12/13/2006 9:57:21 AM PST by tarheelswamprat (So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
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To: ansel12

As far as I know David Lean wasn't a raving anti-semite or a drunk. He has those facts in his favor too.


108 posted on 12/13/2006 9:58:21 AM PST by veronica (http://images20.fotki.com/v360/photos/1/106521/3848737/gladysPSCP-vi.jpg)
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To: tarheelswamprat

Well, I'm happy to bash Gibson, I just don't think that what you suggest is reasonable, either from a realistic standpoint or from a Machiavellian one.


109 posted on 12/13/2006 10:03:32 AM PST by AmishDude (I coined "Senator Ass" to describe Jim Webb. He may have already used it as a character in a novel.)
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To: macamadamia

"Mel Gibson didn't direct or produce We Were Soldiers"



Correct, I caught that after I posted.

Some of my confusion came from the high level of involvement Mel had in the lead role as an actor.

Soldier of Fortune magazine did a long article about the movie, Mel, and fellow Catholic Lt.Col. Hal Moore, and how Moore and Gibson and Galloway worked so hard to make the film realistic, and the close personal relationship that developed between Moore and Gibson.


110 posted on 12/13/2006 10:06:47 AM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Postclassical Mayan city of Tulum in the Yucatan, which Gibson's fictional city resembles sitewise, fell to revolt at least 50 years before the arrival of the Spanish

I've been to the Tulum ruins.

That village in the film in no way resembled the Tulum ruins.

The pyramid/temple staircase heights in the film were very steep and had about 100 steps. The highest staircase in Tulum is about 24 steps.


111 posted on 12/13/2006 10:31:36 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Just a couple more....


112 posted on 12/13/2006 10:43:38 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: JCEccles
You have an interesting theory I've not encountered elsewhere. You may be on to something.
113 posted on 12/13/2006 11:02:36 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: UltraConservative
Western civilization has values worth protecting -- liberty and equality of opportunity

Western Civilization has been going on for a long time and through most of that time neither liberty nor equality of opportunity were much in evidence. This redefining of Western Civ as a set of (liberal) values is part of the problem, after all if these values define your civilization then anyone who holds them is part of that civilization, a radical redefining of the concept. (While it might be debated whether equality of opportunity is increasing in the West, liberty clearly is in decline from its height.) I'm sure the author understands that civilizations are more than some contemporary values but unfortunately most of our political and intellectual leadership do not. Radical Islam has two great recruiting tools: the decadence of the modern West that most traditional people find repugnant, and the clear fact that the West is being colonized and its natives dispossessed by policies of elites who believe in the "creedal nation" (or civilization) concept. In the not-so-long term the West is doomed to suffer the fate of all conquered and colonized peoples and everyone outside of West can see that, why hitch your wagon to a suicidal loser?

114 posted on 12/13/2006 11:10:34 AM PST by jordan8
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To: jordan8

I think you have made some interesting and cogent points but before I comment further,could you please explain what you mean by a "creedal nation". Thank you.


115 posted on 12/13/2006 11:56:56 AM PST by saradippity
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To: TheBattman
They were doomed by a long drought

Global Warming Bump!

116 posted on 12/13/2006 12:04:03 PM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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To: UltraConservative

It all starts with the massive tattoos and the ubiquitous body piercings.

Be afraid! Be very afraid!!


117 posted on 12/13/2006 12:08:21 PM PST by Palladin ("Open a new window; open a new door; travel a new highway.")
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To: murphE

Could have released it on the Feast of the Assumption.


118 posted on 12/13/2006 12:11:23 PM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

He said that a year or two ago.


119 posted on 12/13/2006 12:13:53 PM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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To: UltraConservative

I saw Mel on either Leno or Letterman and could't believe how he couldn't sit still. I seriously wonder if he has a disease he's keeping quiet....


120 posted on 12/13/2006 12:15:15 PM PST by Fawn (NEVER GO TO 'APPLIANCE KING' IN BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA--THEY SCAM YOU!!!)
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