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Mel Gibson's Apocalyptic Stupidity
Human Events.com ^ | December 13, 2006 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 12/13/2006 4:59:55 AM PST by UltraConservative

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To: Miss Marple
That isn't what Mel says, apparently.

Why? Could it be because Mel is trying to reach an audience who would otherwise not give his film the time of day? As another poster said, yes, he is that smart.
81 posted on 12/13/2006 7:30:57 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

We saw The Nativity last w/e and it was excellent - not Hollywood'sh at all. We saw it instead of the Danny DeVito or Mel Gibson movies and do not regret. One of my teens said she actually had tears at the birth of Christ - it was surely the most touching scene in the movie and NOT overdone....very simple but it grabbed your heart. Don't know how else to explain it.


82 posted on 12/13/2006 7:34:48 AM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: Miss Marple
When questioned he seems incapable of clarity on any issue involving Jews or the Holocaust. There is always squirming, equivocating, defensiveness, or outright anger. That in itself reveals all.

I am dubious if he claims not to have heard about that conference. It was on front page of most newspapers in the last few days. People in the movie biz do get tunnel vision, especially when they are in the thick of a campaign, but still, I'm dubious.

I have a very good friend who is a world-recognized expert on Aztec, Mayan cultures etc. Has written several books on the topic. But so appalled he was by The Passion (no - he's not Jewish) he won't see Mel's movie until it's on cable. I'll be interested in his take on the film.

83 posted on 12/13/2006 7:40:11 AM PST by veronica (http://images20.fotki.com/v360/photos/1/106521/3848737/gladysPSCP-vi.jpg)
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To: Miss Marple

Many thanks for that summation


84 posted on 12/13/2006 7:40:34 AM PST by dennisw
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To: veronica
Do you know if Mel's dad was able to make it to the Holocaust-denier's conference in Tehran?
85 posted on 12/13/2006 7:44:33 AM PST by elhombrelibre (A sober Jimmy Carter says what Mel Gibson would only say in a very drunken rant.)
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To: Miss Marple
He was not very charming, was jittery...

That's called "the yips" in a drinker. Mel has missed his calling. He should be playing Dr. House on Fox TV. He has all of the charm and tact of that character. And he wouldn't even have to act. :)

86 posted on 12/13/2006 7:45:50 AM PST by veronica (http://images20.fotki.com/v360/photos/1/106521/3848737/gladysPSCP-vi.jpg)
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To: veronica

He made me nervous just watching him. Blinking, drinking that maybe Kahlua coffee, and looking around with no smile. I have always enjoyed his work and he was a very handsome young guy. As I said on a later post down the line, he's a wreck. It is a shame he's such a self destructive individual. Probably working out his hate issues would make a happier man.


87 posted on 12/13/2006 7:47:11 AM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: UltraConservative

Can't wait to see the movie.

I just skimmed the article because of the 'spoiler warning'


88 posted on 12/13/2006 7:49:10 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Kucinich, Vilsak, Obama, Biden, Bayh, Dodd, & Edwards the 7 dwarves to Snow Rodham)
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To: veronica

I liked his role as Col.Hal Moore.

Mel Gibson made the best Vietnam war movie ever made, he and devout catholic Hal Moore became close friends.

Road Warrior, Braveheart, We Were Soldiers, The Passion of the Christ, all are on my top ten list, from the word I've heard so far Apocalypto may join the list.


89 posted on 12/13/2006 8:02:01 AM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: ansel12

In the genre you highlight of Mel's films, he's no David Lean. Not even close. If you want to see great action /epic movies with philosophical and/or religious underpinnings, do yourself a favor and rent some David Lean movies. Mel is a mere poseur compared to Lean.


90 posted on 12/13/2006 8:06:57 AM PST by veronica (http://images20.fotki.com/v360/photos/1/106521/3848737/gladysPSCP-vi.jpg)
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To: ansel12

"Mel Gibson made the best Vietnam war movie ever made".....and the most underrated. Not sure how I feel about Mel now, but he has made some great movies.


91 posted on 12/13/2006 8:16:25 AM PST by soccermom
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To: veronica

We've all seen many David Lean movies. Gibson is much better.

We Were Soldiers, isn't just the best Vietnam movie ever made, it is one of the greatest war movies ever made.

The Passion of the Christ is a timeless masterpiece that will endure.


92 posted on 12/13/2006 8:19:31 AM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: ansel12

IMHO there was way too much standing up during the firefights, to my thinking, to be the greatest war movie ever.


93 posted on 12/13/2006 8:32:03 AM PST by elhombrelibre (A sober Jimmy Carter says what Mel Gibson would only say in a very drunken rant.)
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To: Miss Marple
Do you believe he didn't know about the Holocaust Denial conference?

He's probably snubbing them in retaliation for not getting invited.

94 posted on 12/13/2006 8:35:27 AM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: grobdriver

I'm suffering from Mel Gibson fatigue as well as Hollyrot's opinions about how we should live our lifes....there is nothing Gibson or Hollyrot have to offer that would alter my life.


95 posted on 12/13/2006 8:40:16 AM PST by auto power
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To: veronica; Miss Marple
I am dubious if he claims not to have heard about that conference.

The phrase "it beggars belief" is apropos.

Mel Gibson is not some everyday, anonymous Joe. He's a world-famous celebrity who has screwed-up royally by showing his anti-Semitism in a drunken rage, and who has then, in an effort to undo some of that damage and salvage his career (to paraphrase Bill Clinton - to 'maintain his Hollywood viability'), promised to seek counseling, meet with "Jewish leaders" to gain understanding, and "reach out" to the Jewish community for forgiveness, etc. ad nauseum.

That any celebrity who has messed-up that badly and then publicly made those types of promises to "the Jewish community" would not make the minimal effort of keeping himself, or at least having someone on his staff keep him updated with a list of potentially embarrassing talking-points from the headlines of the day related to his "problem" is simply stupid. It puts the lie to all his promises.

96 posted on 12/13/2006 8:49:10 AM PST by tarheelswamprat (So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
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To: tarheelswamprat

The guy is on a whirl wind tour of the country, from early morning shows to late night shows, he may not be keeping up with current events right now.


97 posted on 12/13/2006 9:04:53 AM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: ansel12
We've all seen many David Lean movies. Gibson is much better.

Please. Which David Lean movies have you seen? Not one Gibson film has a story or screenplay to rival The Bridge On The River Kwai, or Lawrence of Arabia. Not even in the same league.

98 posted on 12/13/2006 9:21:32 AM PST by veronica (http://images20.fotki.com/v360/photos/1/106521/3848737/gladysPSCP-vi.jpg)
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To: Miss Marple

To be honest, I think the whole American-as-Mayan was an afterthought on Mel's part. I think he believes it, but I don't think it was his main metaphor. That perspective serves his purposes now, though.


99 posted on 12/13/2006 9:29:20 AM PST by AmishDude (I coined "Senator Ass" to describe Jim Webb. He may have already used it as a character in a novel.)
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To: ansel12
The guy is on a whirl wind tour of the country, from early morning shows to late night shows, he may not be keeping up with current events right now.

With respect, think about what you just wrote. When you're trying to climb your way out of a public relations hole, rehabilitate your career and promote your new movie, as Gibson is, via a whirlwind tour of interviews, you don't necessarily need to keep abreast of everything that's going on in the world, but you'd darn-well better be prepared for questions related to your particular PR "problem". To not do so is just plain foolish.

This isn't rocket science. Here's how it's supposed to work:

INTERVIEWER: "Mel, what do you think about the recent Holocaust Denial Conference held in Iran?"

GIBSON: "When I heard about it I was shocked. I think it's shameful. One of the lessons I tried to convey in my movie 'Apocalypto' is that we need to remember, and learn from the barbaric realities of history."

See? Simple, effective, and it quickly deals with and disposes of the potentially embarrassing issue. Sadly, the fact that Gibson can't bring himself to do these simple things is a telling indicator of deeper problems.

100 posted on 12/13/2006 9:40:11 AM PST by tarheelswamprat (So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
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