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Van Halen (among others) Make the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame
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Posted on 01/08/2007 10:21:03 AM PST by slowhand520

Van Halen, Grandmaster Flash, R.E.M., Ronettes and Patti Smith make Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

CLEVELAND — Van Halen made a "jump" into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on Monday along with Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, R.E.M., the Ronettes and Patti Smith. A panel of 600 industry experts selected the five artists to be inducted at the annual ceremony, to be held March 12 in New York.

Van Halen was the 1980s hard rock quartet led by guitarist Eddie Van Halen, outrageous lead vocalist David Lee Roth, and later rocker Sammy Hagar, that put out hits such as "Jump" and "Dreams."

R.E.M. was the quintessential indie rock band until breaking through to mass success in the early 1990s with songs like "Losing My Religion."

Grandmaster Flash led the most innovative act in early hip-hop, and the song "The Message" was like a letter from urban America.

Punk rock poet Patti Smith and Phil Spector favorites the Ronettes round out the 2007 class.

To be eligible, artists must have issued a first single or album at least 25 years before nomination.


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: grandmasterflash; rockandroll; themessage; vanhagar; vanhalen
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This goes perfect with their reunion tour (with DLR of course) this summer
1 posted on 01/08/2007 10:21:07 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: slowhand520

What make me feel old Grandmaster Flash the Message is 25 year old OMGGG I remember that song LOL!


2 posted on 01/08/2007 10:22:36 AM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: slowhand520

When is Cheap Trick going to be inducted?? They are pioneers in the realm of the live album.


3 posted on 01/08/2007 10:23:29 AM PST by ushr435
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To: slowhand520

Van Halen?!

Cool.

I'm guessing David Lee Roth would enter with the rest of the group and not Sammy Hagar.

Or does the R&R Hall of Fame not mention individual members when a group gets inducted?


4 posted on 01/08/2007 10:25:28 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: slowhand520

Did both the Roth version *and* Van Hagar make it in? If both, that should be a fun induction ceremony.


5 posted on 01/08/2007 10:25:30 AM PST by ravensandricks
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To: slowhand520

Saw 'em once -- L.A. Forum, 1981. Very short and uninspired show. But there were more fine babes in the crowd than at any show I've ever seen.


6 posted on 01/08/2007 10:25:42 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: weegee
Rosie and the Originals in yet? What about the Buggs?!


7 posted on 01/08/2007 10:26:05 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: slowhand520

Boy, the admission requirements are sure low. Who's next, the Cowsills and Donny Osmond?


8 posted on 01/08/2007 10:26:47 AM PST by joebuck
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To: slowhand520
"Losing My Religion."

I loved that song, never got tired of hearing it.

9 posted on 01/08/2007 10:27:31 AM PST by ShadowDancer (Life is not tried, it is merely survived if you're standing outside the fire.)
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To: joebuck

Maybe the Partridge Family and the Brady Kids.


10 posted on 01/08/2007 10:28:30 AM PST by fredhead (Where am I going....and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: MplsSteve

It's kind of weird: the HOF determines which "versions" of bands get in. For example, the Ramones got in, but only the Joey-Dee Dee-Johnny-Marky line-up. C.J. is not in the HOF. Stranger yet, *all* of the Grateful Dead's line-ups, including Vince Welnick, are in. Go figure. I have to imagine Hagar would be part of the induction - he was frontman for at least as long as Roth, and they had lots of commercial success with him.


11 posted on 01/08/2007 10:28:34 AM PST by ravensandricks
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To: Mr. Mojo

I saw them at the Boston Garden in 82, (Diver Down), they were awesome.


12 posted on 01/08/2007 10:29:04 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: joebuck
Who's next, the Cowsills and Donny Osmond?


13 posted on 01/08/2007 10:29:11 AM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: ravensandricks
I have to imagine Hagar would be part of the induction

I tried really, really hard to like that new VH version but I just couldn't. They lost me with him.

14 posted on 01/08/2007 10:29:57 AM PST by ShadowDancer (Life is not tried, it is merely survived if you're standing outside the fire.)
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To: weegee
The Artwoods?

The Undertakers?


15 posted on 01/08/2007 10:30:20 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Mike Bates

16 posted on 01/08/2007 10:31:06 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: joebuck
Who's next, the Cowsills and Donny Osmond?

Well Donny was a 'little bit rock and roll.'

17 posted on 01/08/2007 10:31:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: slowhand520

Weren't The Stooges on the ballot this year? If they were and didn't get in it is a shame.


18 posted on 01/08/2007 10:31:22 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (Like I always say, there's no "I" in team. There's a "me" though, if you jumble it up.)
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To: slowhand520

I liked R.E.M a lot better back when I couldn't understand what Michael Stipe was singing.


19 posted on 01/08/2007 10:32:11 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: ravensandricks

Sammy Hagar is not a member of Van Halen. He was just a hired singer.


20 posted on 01/08/2007 10:32:18 AM PST by LetsRok
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To: ShadowDancer

Oh, I hated him. They were never the same. I'm not a heavy metal guy at all (big, big R.E.M fan from the second album on, for reference), but Roth was so over the top, Eddie so good and their songs solid enough that I couldn't help but respect them. Hagar made them just like any other 80s mediocrity.


21 posted on 01/08/2007 10:32:43 AM PST by ravensandricks
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To: rdb3

Best location in the nation ping.


22 posted on 01/08/2007 10:32:50 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream, that sees beyond the years)
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To: MplsSteve
I'm guessing David Lee Roth would enter with the rest of the group and not Sammy Hagar.

Wonder who'll show up to play at the ceremony? One of the requirements is that the band reunite to play.

What about the dude from 'Extreme' that sang for them for about 5 minutes?

I read somewhere, that Eddie Van Halen replaced Michael Anthony (the bass player) with his son, and that it was not a 'friendly' agreement. I used to worship at Eddie's feet when I was a testosterone-laden teenager, but he and his brother must be a couple of (um) jerks to work with.

Still and all, I went to see one of their live shows, and Eddie's solo was the only time I've ever seen an entire crowd (15000? more?) go quiet. It was amazing.

23 posted on 01/08/2007 10:33:22 AM PST by wbill
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To: ravensandricks
Did both the Roth version *and* Van Hagar make it in? If both, that should be a fun induction ceremony.

I take it Gary Cherone won't be joining them.

24 posted on 01/08/2007 10:34:06 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: slowhand520

The HOF is a joke as long as they keep Johnny Rivers out of it.


25 posted on 01/08/2007 10:35:39 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: wbill

VH and Roth were great back in the day, but I don't think it's going to be quite the same now that they are all in their 50s. Roth's voice is a shell of what it once was.


26 posted on 01/08/2007 10:35:42 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Mr. Mojo

The Bone Daddies still not selected. Pity.


27 posted on 01/08/2007 10:36:27 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: dfwgator
I liked R.E.M a lot better back when I couldn't understand what Michael Stipe was singing.

I liked them even more back when they didn't exist. (Just an opinion......)

28 posted on 01/08/2007 10:36:34 AM PST by Niteranger68 (The United States is a safe haven for all cultures……except its own.)
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To: slowhand520
Induct Karel!

Freddy!

Heino!


29 posted on 01/08/2007 10:37:02 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: slowhand520

Way Over-rated


30 posted on 01/08/2007 10:37:16 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: dfwgator
Gary Cherone. That's the name I was looking for.

He fronted Extreme...another great guitar band. Never got popular though...all the songs that got any airplay were the touchy-feely makeout tunes, if I remember right.

Nuno Bettencourt was a guitar master.

31 posted on 01/08/2007 10:37:50 AM PST by wbill
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To: slowhand520

'Bout time an actual ROCK act made it into the ROCK AND ROLL Hall of Fame.


32 posted on 01/08/2007 10:37:53 AM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: slowhand520
I'm glad that Van Halen are in the Hall now. I always loved their music. I still remember watching the "1984" tour in my hometown.

As for REM, if you went to college in the South during the 80's, you no doubt share the same memories I do of listening to that music nonstop. I'm not sure if it translated outside of the South but these guys were the biggest thing in College music.

33 posted on 01/08/2007 10:38:06 AM PST by Volunteer (Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
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To: Revolting cat!

"And now is the time on Sprockets when we dance...."

34 posted on 01/08/2007 10:38:12 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: ShadowDancer

Hagar is GREAT as a soloist.

DLR is GREAT with VH.

Hagar was mediocre with VH.

Roth was mediocre as a soloist.


35 posted on 01/08/2007 10:38:48 AM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: wbill

I did like Extreme back in the day. They were one of those unfortunate bands that got tagged with the sappy ballad, even though they pretty much rocked on the rest of their stuff.


36 posted on 01/08/2007 10:39:27 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Buddy of mine went to see Roth and Hagar on their combined tour a couple of years ago. He said that Sammy hadn't lost a step (and actually, was better than with VH). Also said that Roth sucked. Not only did he sound terrible, but he forgot the words to one of the songs.


37 posted on 01/08/2007 10:39:44 AM PST by wbill
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To: SevenofNine

Broken glass everywhere
People pissing on the stairs, you know they just
Dont care
I cant take the smell, I cant take the noise
Got no money to move out, I guess I got no choice
Rats in the front room, roaches in the back
Junkies in the alley with a baseball bat
I tried to get away, but I couldnt get far
Cause the man with the tow-truck repossessed my car

Chorus:

Dont push me, cause Im close to the edge
Im trying not to loose my head
Its like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder
How I keep from going under

Standing on the front stoop, hangin out the window
Watching all the cars go by, roaring as the breezes
Blow
Crazy lady, livin in a bag
Eating out of garbage piles, used to be a fag-hag
Search and test a tango, skips the life and then go
To search a prince to see the last of senses
Down at the peepshow, watching all the creeps
So she can tell the stories to the girls back home
She went to the city and got so so so ditty
She had to get a pimp, she couldnt make it on her
Own

Chorus:

Its like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder
How I keep from goin under

My brothers doing fast on my mothers t.v.
Says she watches to much, is just not healthy
All my children in the daytime, dallas at night
Cant even see the game or the sugar ray fight
Bill collectors they ring my phone
And scare my wife when Im not home
Got a bum education, double-digit inflation
Cant take the train to the job, theres a strike
At the station
Me on king kong standin on my back
Cant stop to turn around, broke my sacroiliac
Midrange, migraine, cancered membrane
Sometimes I think Im going insane, I swear I might
Hijack a plane!

Chorus:

My son said daddy I dont wanna go to school
Cause the teachers a jerk, he must think Im a
Fool
And all the kids smoke reefer, I think itd be
Cheaper
If I just got a job, learned to be a street sweeper
I dance to the beat, shuffle my feet
Wear a shirt and tie and run with the creeps
Cause its all about money, aint a damn thing
Funny
You got to have a con in this land of milk and
Honey
They push that girl in front of a train
Took her to a doctor, sowed the arm on again
Stabbed that man, right in his heart
Gave him a transplant before a brand new start
I cant walk through the park, cause its crazy
After the dark
Keep my hand on the gun, cause they got me on the
Run
I feel like an outlaw, broke my last fast jaw
Hear them say you want some more, livin on a
Seesaw

Chorus:

A child was born, with no state of mind
Blind to the ways of mankind
God is smiling on you but hes frowning too
Cause only God knows what you go through
You grow in the ghetto, living second rate
And your eyes will sing a song of deep hate
The places you play and where you stay
Looks like one great big alley way
Youll admire all the number book takers
Thugs, pimps, pushers and the big money makers
Driving big cars, spending twenties and tens
And you wanna grow up to be just like them
Smugglers, scrambles, burglars, gamblers
Pickpockets, peddlers and even pan-handlers
You say Im cool, Im no fool
But then you wind up dropping out of high school
Now youre unemployed, all null n void
Walking around like youre pretty boy floyd
Turned stickup kid, look what you done did
Got send up for a eight year bid
Now your man is took and youre a may tag
Spend the next two years as an undercover fag
Being used and abused, and served like hell
Till one day you was find hung dead in a cell
It was plain to see that your life was lost
You was cold and your body swung back and forth
But now your eyes sing the sad sad song
Of how you lived so fast and died so young

Chorus:


38 posted on 01/08/2007 10:40:02 AM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: Revolting cat!

Where's Nena!?!?


39 posted on 01/08/2007 10:40:37 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Revolting cat!

Heino looks like he should be wearing a doctor's uniform in a concentration camp somewhere.


40 posted on 01/08/2007 10:40:49 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Wow! I don't remember that one. There were a lot of fake groups back then trying to cash in on the Beatles.

I recall walking into my local record store in Jan. 1964 and asking if they had any Beatles records. "Who?" the clerk behind the counter asked.

I dug around in the 45 bin on the counter and found one Beatle record; a Spanish 45 EP (four songs). Paid 49 cents for it. Sold it on eBay last year for $130.


41 posted on 01/08/2007 10:41:20 AM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Volunteer

Don't know if you'd consider Maryland "the South" (most don't, some do), and I'm a bit younger (in high school in the mid-80s), but the first four R.E.M. albums were rarely off my turntable and/or car tape deck. Other than "Automatic for the People" and (to some degree) "Out of Time" it's been pretty much downhill for them since then. But I was just listening to "Reconstruction" last night and it's still wonderful.

I wonder if there'll ever be any move to put the Replacements in. That was a great, great band that never got the recognition they deserved.


42 posted on 01/08/2007 10:41:34 AM PST by ravensandricks
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To: Mr. Mojo

I saw them at the US Festival in Devore, CA in 1983. Roth was so drunk he couldn't even sing. He just stumbled around the stage and shouted. I was so disappointed.


43 posted on 01/08/2007 10:41:50 AM PST by CaliGirl-R (Is America becoming a "safe haven" for terrorists?)
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To: CaliGirl-R

He sounded a bit drunk when I saw him as well. ....more screaming than singing. The the sound mix was awful. The whole show was unprofessional.


44 posted on 01/08/2007 10:43:56 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: RockinRight

Perfect and dead on. I liked Hagar as a soloist, that's why I thought I could maybe deal with him as lead to VH. Just didn't work.


45 posted on 01/08/2007 10:44:00 AM PST by ShadowDancer (Life is not tried, it is merely survived if you're standing outside the fire.)
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To: MplsSteve

Do you know who gave Van Halen his start in the music business?


46 posted on 01/08/2007 10:44:14 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: ShadowDancer

The best part about "Losing My Religion" is that the song isn't about religion at all.


47 posted on 01/08/2007 10:44:17 AM PST by VA_Gentleman (R.I.P. Captain James Edge - friend, father, and soldier)
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To: dfwgator
Yep, it's hard to find a bad song on their 'Pornografitti" album. I picked it up for a buck in a discount CD bin awhile back. Brought back a few memories, most of which centered around albums that were mostly good, instead of one hit and the rest filler.

Doesn't translate well into today's music, though. I doubt that we'll be hearing "Get the Funk Out" anytime soon on a 'Classic Rock' station.

48 posted on 01/08/2007 10:44:18 AM PST by wbill
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To: ShadowDancer
I tried really, really hard to like that new VH version but I just couldn't. They lost me with him.

Me too. Van Halen is only Van Halen with David Lee Roth, IMO. I prefer Sammy as a solo artist.

49 posted on 01/08/2007 10:45:02 AM PST by Kellykoop (All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people.)
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To: Revolting cat!

And what about the Fuggs?


50 posted on 01/08/2007 10:45:10 AM PST by printhead
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