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New `Idol' Season Shows Mean Streak
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070119/D8MOE2J00.html ^ | January 19, 2007 | JOCELYN NOVECK

Posted on 01/19/2007 10:41:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: weegee
I agree with you completely!

I was involved in many casting sessions when I working in Hollywood and believe me....what is said on 'American Idol' is NOTHING compared to what is said in casting sessions which are also taped and viewed by many decision-making type people. It is assumed if one wants to be in front of the camera then, one wants to be famous and in turn, one will be degraded and criticized...period.

I am not here to say if it is right or wrong.....just saying...that is how it is....

41 posted on 01/19/2007 11:09:04 AM PST by BossLady ("People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own soul" - Carl Jung)
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To: united1000

American Idol is not just about "can you sing". It is about whether you can be a pop star. Poise, appearance, voice, etc will all figure into this.

Mama Cass would not be in the running. Neither would Joey Ramone or Bob Dylan. But all left big footprints on the music world.

Even talented singers are turned away and take offense when they are told "you can sing but...".

After enough seasons, it would appear that those who ARE right for the show know how to present themselves in the audition.


42 posted on 01/19/2007 11:09:14 AM PST by weegee (The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as LBJ's 'Daisy' mushroom ad.)
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To: weegee
So true.

This type of mindset is too prevalent'

..."I was stunned," Horst said. "Randy just didn't like me." He's moving ahead with his music career, and doesn't plan to watch the show anymore. "I need to create a new past," he says.

43 posted on 01/19/2007 11:10:53 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: weegee

Yes, all the contestants go through screeners responsible for deciding who will make it in front of the 3 judges. There may even be several layers of this.

They purposely choose people who are horrendous, for the viewers to laugh at.


44 posted on 01/19/2007 11:20:42 AM PST by elc (Guns kill people the same way the spoon made Rosie O'Donnell fat.)
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To: weegee

You aren't trying to say that the Idol people don't have their pulse on what will sell are you?

The Beatle's - please. That was 43 years ago - get over it.

1958 - when music was changing - is not an appropriate analogy to a soloist pop competition. It's not just the suits. You have one suit, one accomplished performer and producer, and one former pop icon. Like it or not, like THEM or not, but these people know music, they know voices, and they continue to turn out stars. Most of the people who walk away cussing are completely deluded about their own talents and abilities - not all, but most.


45 posted on 01/19/2007 11:29:35 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I never heard of Simon Cowell before this show. He's pretty snippy for someone whose career has peaked as, essentially, a game show host.


46 posted on 01/19/2007 11:31:52 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: dirtboy
"...Gawd, the kid DID look like a lemur...."

A lemur

Or a bushbaby

47 posted on 01/19/2007 11:36:26 AM PST by NCC-1701 (To boldly go where no FReeper has gone before. Live long and prosper.)
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To: NCC-1701

Definitely looked more like a lemur.


48 posted on 01/19/2007 11:38:38 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter - a candidate who doesn't need infomercials to convince you he's a conservative)
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To: dirtboy

Either way, Simon was right. A bit cruel, but right. :-)


49 posted on 01/19/2007 11:43:32 AM PST by NCC-1701 (To boldly go where no FReeper has gone before. Live long and prosper.)
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To: BlueNgold; t_skoz
The Beatles epitomize the music industry. Rock and roll was shelved as a "teenage fad" (although it began in juke joints frequented by adults in 1948-1951).

It was replaced by commie folk singers, junkie bebop musicians, and homosexual poster idols. But at least it wasn't rock and roll.

Funny thing is the final Beatles concert was cut short when a banker complained about "that noise" going on outside. The folkies hated it years later when Bob Dylan went electric and played that "immature junk".

That's music.
50 posted on 01/19/2007 12:00:03 PM PST by weegee (The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as LBJ's 'Daisy' mushroom ad.)
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To: BlueNgold

The "Idol people" are essentially Simon (the others are judges, he runs the company). He does know what he can sell.

But he has no interest in trying to sell "everything". More power to him to play to his strength as a producer.

It's the rest of the music industry that puts a barrier to more variety and talent getting through to the public. Artists who've had "ignored" (but profitable) careers for 10-20 years who can't get on tv, radio, etc. It's a closed shop.


51 posted on 01/19/2007 12:03:32 PM PST by weegee (The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as LBJ's 'Daisy' mushroom ad.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is what happens when you have a public education system that emphasizes self-esteem over hard work, practice, and diligence.


52 posted on 01/19/2007 12:05:19 PM PST by Palladin (A mother's womb should be a no-kill shelter.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

Anyone who wants to join in on the Live Thread for Idol, here on FR, can go to this link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1768069/posts?page=2056#2056


53 posted on 01/19/2007 12:09:02 PM PST by Palladin (A mother's womb should be a no-kill shelter.)
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