Posted on 01/22/2007 10:51:57 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
>>>I'm waaaay over the "Now, we need to settle down and let's think about it" tripe that passes for parenting these days.<<<
I'm with you. A good smack on the rearend never hurt any kid.
How did modern parenting get so lousy, anyway?
I think Motley girl70 summed it up with ... I'm amazed that the rotten behavior of some children won't even faze some parents one bit.
Actually, Xena, a stiff yank of the hair behind my son's ear usually cures most of his "problems."
I never allowed my son to have a throw-down, red faced, wall-eyed canyption fit, without suffering the consequences. He had very few of those.
But he did have some, and they were unpleasant, and I still feel sorry for any other mom and dad going through it.
It's Bush's fault.
I just tried it on my own hair, and I bet that DOES work. Yow!
Yeah..just look at his twins!
I do, as often as I can.
That's what we used to get from our mom in church.
That's called "yanking a knot in your head." haha
I have a friend who calmly pinches the crap out of her son's arm on the back just above the elbow when he is acting up in public. She keeps a smile on her face and lets him know there is more waiting for him at home if he doesn't behave and nobody sees what is going on. HEr son usually straightens right up.
We fly Southwest alot so we get free tickets and those free drink coupons. We always take books of those with us, in case our 20 month-old decides to be screechy. Once, we had some young guys sit behind us and they were swearing and vulgar and just sleazy-nasty. They were not loud. We had our 8year-old with us at the time. I asked them to please realize there was a kid in front of them who can hear that language, and I gave them each a book of drink coupons. They apologized and they were fantastic and well-behaved the rest of the flight. I've given out those books when I get the looks from people that I can see are irritated with our noise. It doesn't happen often. Usually, when I apologize for the noise, the people who were giving out dirty looks tend to change their demeanor and say, well, we know you can't help it, etc. Now, it's only happened a couple times and nothing that lasted more than 5 minutes (although it seems like forever when the child is screaming). I am wondering, about this little girl. It must not have been the screaming so much as the actual behavior that got the flight attendant's attention. We've never had that problem. We are much bigger than all our children and they can scream all they want, they are going in the seat. It's hard as a parent to know the screeches are annoying other passengers. That's why we try to line up interventions ahead of time - a whole bag of tricks to offset any loudness. We hardly ever get to use them, thankfully. We fly just about every month, round trip, Austin to Chicago and back. We've seen those kids that are wild. My heart goes out to the parents and to the rest of us having to deal with it. It's very stressful for everyone.
Me too.
Actually, it's only happened once or twice to me. But on one occasion, the morbidly obese passenger was taking his seat and most of mine.
The sad part is how apologetic he was about it.
This happened to my husband and he had to sit next to her, and she started this before the plane left, in other words, she got on board sick.
He had to sit there and endure it.
We considered burning his clothes.....who knew what was wrong this this passenger?
It was horrible.
For that matter, adults on a plane have any number of options to counter a screaming child...
..earphones, earplugs, watch the movie, read a book...
..the parent is the one who has to contend with the child.
But there is no recourse if someone next to you is continuously throwing up and the steardess says 'sorry'....and you are a captive during the entire flight!
Sure--it's always someone else's kid with the rotten behavior--never your own little darling.
I think my favorite fix to a screaming toddler was my uncle (a harley riding, leather wearing patriot) who saw a kid screaming in a grocery cart. When he walked past (the kid was having a full-out meltdown) he slapped the kid on the back of the head without the mom noticing (just enough to get his attention)... My uncle walked down the next aisle as the kid and mom walked up and as soon as that kid saw my uncle walking toward him he shut right up. worked like a charm
Thank goodness! It is beyond time for stores, restaurants, etc., to remove unruly kids and their oblivious parents when the parents refuse to take action. There are some places I just won't go to anymore because they are run by wild children and it gives me a headache to deal with it. Seen the kids wearing skate shoes? Those are the worst.
One Word - Robitussin
Children 3 and over must be in a seat at push-back that is the LAW. This flight had already been delayed 15 minutes. There were 112 people on board. The parents refused to pick-up there child and put her in a seat and put the seat belt around her. Do you people really think that 112 people should have been delayed because of this one screaming child. She needed to be removed from the plane and she was...it is just that simple.
THANK YOU AirTran. Not everybody thinks Elly is the angel her parents do. One report stated she was sceaming and hitting them and refused to take her seat. She's 3...PUT her in her seat.
Yes, I don't blame the 3 year old for being a spoiled brat. It's her parents who need a smack across the chops.
People have less than an hour to make connections and weather often erodes that cushion. The parents had 30 minutes to board the plane and the news stories indicate that the pilot had held the plane for an additional 15 minutes beyond departure time.
Actually, I blame the mother. The husband appears to be working his behind off to support his family. The mother on the other hand appears to be one of those princesses who thinks that --in exchange for mediocre and probably infrequent sexual services -- she is entitled to a life time meal ticket.
Her only job seems to be raising the kid and she couldn't even make the brat take its seat -- choosing instead to put the travel of 100+ other passengers at risk and then whine to the news media that she wasn't given more time. How can you blame the 3 year old for its public tantrum -- obviously the acorn does not fall far from the tree.
My parents constantly entertained guests for my father's bank up and down the state of California, so from the time I was born I went with them and was expected to behave at all times. I can recall one time when my parents were meeting with a maitre-d getting a menu together and I apparently got bored and started to get down out of my seat and climb around.
Dad warned me once.
When I didn't listen, he swiftly picked me up and took me to the door of the restaurant and sat me in a chair and told me to stay put. You didn't ignore my father and survive, trust me. For another hour and a half, I didn't budge an inch.
My children at age 5 and 3 can already be taken anywhere. They obey the first time they are asked to. We have never had bedtime arguments and they say "Yes Ma'am" and "Yes sir" automatically.....not to say that they don't have their moments. But from the moment they were born they knew what was expected of them and they rise to the level that is expected. Children have a funny way of doing that.
There are always exceptions to that -- when they are sick, off schedule, no nap, etc....-- then you do not subject them to situations in which they are expected to behave like angels and you certainly do not subject others to the consequences of their misbehavior. You learn as a parent to leave a restaurant or a gathering or whatever....because it is the decent thing to do....you do not subject others to whatever problem your children are having.
Sounds to me like a lot of parents do not understand that there are, frankly, times when children can be inconvenient -- they get sick....they get off schedule or out of sorts or they miss a nap....and rather than forcing the situation, you just leave and take care of the problem at home. There will always be another time to go to the restaurant or another gathering or whatever.
My boys behave well because I am conscious of whatever may be going wrong and I adjust....and because they have quickly learned that there is no alternative for them but to behave. We are going to have a baby in March -- a girl -- and she will also be expected to behave as well. The boys are already practicing telling her our catch-phrase..."First time obey..."
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