Skip to comments.Rumsfeld, DOD officials attend meeting on erasing North American borders
Posted on 02/01/2007 7:07:49 AM PST by Between the Lines
Judicial Watch says Donald Rumsfeld and other U.S. Defense Department officials have met with other countries' officials to discuss effectively erasing the borders between the U.S., Canada, and Mexico.
The public-interest group Judicial Watch has released documents pertaining to a meeting last fall in Banff, Alberta (Canada), called the "North American Forum," which was attended by former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other high-level U.S. Department of Defense officials. According to the watchdog group, the meeting was put on by a government agency that wants to "harmonize" the laws throughout North America.
The North American Forum was sponsored by the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SSP). On its government website the SSP says it is a "trilateral effort to increase security and enhance prosperity among the United States, Canada, and Mexico through greater cooperation and information sharing."
Chris Farrell is director of research at Judicial Watch. "They want to harmonize -- that's their word -- rules and regulations and laws between all three countries and try to bring them more and more together and try to erase the boundaries and borders between the three countries," he says.
But Farrell believes some of the objectives of the SSP are not in the best interests of United States citizens. For one thing, the Judicial Watch spokesman takes issue with the idea of taking the North American "grid" the U.S. shares with Canada and integrating it fully with Mexico. "I don't know how that's in our interest," he contends.
Judicial Watch, which works to investigate and prosecutes government corruption, has questioned the fact that the Banff forum was attended by a number of high-level U.S. government and military officials.
One of the more disturbing documents from the North American Forum, the group's director of research notes, contained the phrase "evolution by stealth" in reference to important policy debates, including debate on the North American countries' integration and cooperation.
"So Secretary Rumsfeld goes up to this meeting and with him he brings the Northern Command, the military's Homeland Security command," Farrell says, "and they talk about some pretty disturbing things." Many of the topics discussed at the North American Forum involved potentially "really changing how you and I think of America when it comes to our economic and our energy independence and a variety of other issues," he contends.
So...the Conspiracy was a "theory??" Not holding breath waiting for apologies.
FR veering into Alex Jones territory...
Okay, part of Northcom's responsibility is to find out what people are talking about that affects the security of our borders. I don't have a problem with Rumsfeld and the Northcom commander attending this meeting - in fact, it's a good intel opportunity that they'd have been derelict to miss. Is there anything in the released documents that points to the military folks agreeing with erasing the borders? Almost certainly not. So what's the writer trying to prove by including them in the story?
There's a border? I don't believe it. Prove it.
And too many people are venomous in denouncing it as hogwash.
Time will tell.
The meeting was in Sept. of last year.
JudicialWatch Releases Pentagon Records from North American Forum Meetings ("evolution by stealth")
I apologize that you think that Rumsfeld and other DOD officials are part of a conspiracy to erase our national border.
What exactly does that mean?
Well, if the SecDef was working on plans to take over those other countries, what's the problem? Realistically that's the best way to seal the borders. Fortress America relies on water, not fences, for protection. Cleaning out Mexico would go a long way toward solving a lot of problems.
We have been talking about this at work for almost a year now. I don't know which will come into play first, erasing our borders or just giving the whole damn country to the UN.
"There's a border? I don't believe it. Prove it."
There is a thing we like to say on the forums of a game I like to play. "Pics or it's not true, didn't happen."
Click here to read NORTHCOM Cover Letter
Click here to read Forum Opening Remarks
Click here to read Bolton Agenda and Notes
Click here to read Volcheff Agenda and Notes
Click here to read more about the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP)
Bush goes through with anything like this, my respect for him is gone.
Isn't this that same old tired Conspiracy Theory that's been battered around for some time? I thought I remembered Hugh or Michael Medved discounting this. Well, not discounting it, just saying that it was a legit conference that did not have to do with opening the borders and making One Nation from many.
Jerome Corsi is on record as stating the union will occur in or before 2010.
Moonbattism at its finest.
Sorry, I don't see how making it easier to use my cell phone north or south of the border is a demonstration of some larger "intent" regarding "border issues."
It is good that you are not holding your breath, because you are wrong.
Oh come on!! You've got everything you need. Joe Farah, WorldNutDaily, Jerry Corsi, and now Judicial Watch. Only one missing I think is DEBKA. Or possibly the National Enquirer. Once they chime in, I'll be stocking up on Ramen Noodles and bottled water...
The point of mentioning the military personnal is that they were there. It's a perfectly valid point to make.
Are you suggesting that if the military didn't agree with decisions made by the civilian government it would keep the decisions from being carried out? Are you suggesting a coup would be possible over the AmeriCanaMexico push of the current administration?
Judicial Watch on the case. lol
Sounds like chicken little is at it again.
In fact, Hayek might argue that the threat of dictatorship, or the threat of being on the road to serfdom, is greater when a leader argues we should not standardize such beacons for unfounded, but nationalistic, reasons.
Does Judicial Watch still believe a missle, not a plane, hit the Pentagon?
Since THEY have decided they cannot bring all of the third world up to our standards, they will bring the U.S. down to third world standards. Only then can there be a fair and even global playing field.
That also puts the ruling elites on top.
Sounds like a plan to me.
"evolution by stealth"
I refer you to my comment #34, if "evolution by stealth" is your concern.
Actually I am sure that is exactly what Judicial Watch said (sarcasm emphasized)......These NAU people take quotes out of context regularily as Michael Medved pointed out......Unfortunately conservatism without a leader like Reagan is sinking back into the fever swamp it came from in the 1950s and early 1960s, when conservatives were an embarassment.
youre tag line doesnt add credibility to your post
We are having enough enough trouble in our efforts to clean out Iraq and Afghanistan. Not to mention cleaning out Serbia of christian men, women and children.
I'm confused, please explain.
Like I said in another thread, I believe I'll be leaving this country sooner rather than later.
Mexico has been a quagmire for the Mexican government for nearly a century. I have heard rumors that the Mexican government is considering pulling out of Mexico entirely.
When the going gets tough . . . .
Thanks for the links. Excellent!!!!!!!!
I have read over some of the articles. They are such liars. To justifiy the monstrosity of NAFTA they claim that the borders lost $25,000 a minute after 9/11. I noticed that they don't mention the fact that the very first country that stated they would not support the war on terrorism was Mexico.LOL. What can you expect from government incompetence.
The car rental companies that bankrupted after 9/11 had nothing to do with free trade but the fact that people had quit flying. This is a duh factor that the globalists can't comprehend.
I am not sure how many here realise it but these types of theories being bandied about by people on the right are EXTREMELY corrosive to the conservative movement.
This is what conservatism was from 1932 to about the late 1960s....It was about conspiracies, jews and how communists were on the verge of taking over America....LBJ successfully linked Goldwater to these types of rightest wackos in 1964.
It wasnt until Bill Buckley was able to seize the conservative movement away from these types that the movement began to gain respectiblity in the mid 1960s along with Reagan articulating conservatism in the late 1950s and 1960s.
The movement is in danger of going back to where it was pre-Reagan..nothing would make the liberla GOP and DEMS happier than to turn the conservative movement from a optimistic outward looking movement to a fever swamp
Which car rental companies went bust after 9-11???? Avis, Hertz, Budget, National???
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