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Indian said to be first in line to lost French throne
ZeeNews ^ | 04 March 2007 | ZeeNews

Posted on 03/05/2007 5:22:41 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman

Balthazar Napolean de Bourbon, a jovial Indian lawyer and part-time farmer settled in Bhopal, has been told that he is the first in line to the lost French throne.

According to media reports, "Bourbon may soon make his first trip to Paris, after he was visited by a relative of Prince Philip, who told him that he is the first in line to the lost French throne."

This Indian father of three is being feted as the long-lost descendant of the Bourbon kings who ruled France from the 16th century to the French revolution. A distant cousin of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette, he is alleged to be not only related to the current Bourbon king of Spain and the Bourbon descendants still in France, but to have more claim than any of them to the French crown.

Prince Michael of Greece, the cousin of Prince Philip, this week published a historical novel called Le Rajah de Bourbon, which traces the swashbuckling story of Bourbon's first royal ancestor in India.

Prince Michael believes Jean de Bourbon was a nephew of the first Bourbon French king, Henry IV. In the mid-16th century Jean embarked on an action-packed adventure across the world which saw him survive assassination attempts and kidnap by pirates to be sold at an Egyptian slave market and serve in the Ethiopian army.

In 1560, he turned up at the court of the Mogul emperor Akbar. It was the beginning of a long line of Bourbons in India, who centuries later would serve as the administrators of Bhopal and become the second most important family in the region.

Michael of Greece, who lives in Paris and is of Bourbon descent believes his work on his newfound Indian "cousins" is more than just the latest whimsy in a history of attempts to uncover relatives of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette.

"If I am right - and I don't have absolute proof, but I completely believe in my theory - then Balthazar Bourbon would be the eldest in the line," he told the Guardian.

"This is the cherry on the cake. Bourbon is head of a decent, dignified, middle-class Indian family. They look so Indian and yet bear this name. When you look at them, it seems incredible. The more unbelievable it is, the more I believe in it."

He said several of his royal relatives in Spain and France were "quite excited and thrilled to have found a new branch". He was in favour of a DNA test, perhaps from a surviving lock of Bourbon hair, to establish the facts. When his sister went to France on holiday she visited a castle once owned by Bourbon kings. It was closed to the public but she showed her Indian passport with the Bourbon name and was allowed in.


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1 posted on 03/05/2007 5:22:45 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman
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To: FLOutdoorsman

I think he should be given chance to rule france...he can do no worse and if he is a Hindu, he can do to the Muslims in France what hindus want to do to muslims....


2 posted on 03/05/2007 5:25:38 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

That's all it takes? A name??? wow, those French, they're a hoot.


3 posted on 03/05/2007 5:25:53 AM PST by Shimmer128 (An optimist is the human personification of spring.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

He'll have to fight it out with Napoléon VII Charles.


4 posted on 03/05/2007 5:29:02 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Hmmmmm.....

Was he there when Louis XVI's heart was given over to the remnants of the French royal family? And what about the Spanish royal line. They are Bourbons, too. (After the Spanish Habsburgs inbred themselves out of existence).

5 posted on 03/05/2007 5:31:35 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Hapsburgs.


6 posted on 03/05/2007 5:31:52 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
A distant cousin of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette...

Just as an aside I was forced to watch that Marie Antoinette movie last weekend. God awful.

7 posted on 03/05/2007 5:33:58 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: FLOutdoorsman; SunkenCiv; blam

ping.


8 posted on 03/05/2007 5:34:54 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Oh, that kind of Indian.

I was thinking he carried a beau and arreaux.

9 posted on 03/05/2007 5:36:01 AM PST by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu; All

Read the article--the Spanish Bourbons are mentioned.


10 posted on 03/05/2007 5:36:04 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

I think I'll just stick with the "Kentucky" Bourbons.


11 posted on 03/05/2007 5:42:36 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu; All
Have read the article--the Spanish Bourbons are mentioned.
(It wasn't an order).
12 posted on 03/05/2007 6:33:13 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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I was thinking he carried a beau and arreaux.

Beautiful! LOL!

13 posted on 03/05/2007 6:35:46 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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14 posted on 03/05/2007 9:19:42 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 19, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Considering how the Frenchies treated Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette, who would want the French throne?


15 posted on 03/05/2007 9:32:41 AM PST by Ciexyz (Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
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To: mainepatsfan

I've heard the movie is wonderful but that it is the music that sinks it.


16 posted on 03/05/2007 9:40:42 AM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: Ciexyz

:')


17 posted on 03/05/2007 9:56:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 19, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Your original spelling was correct too.


18 posted on 03/05/2007 10:14:06 AM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Patron Saint of Mediocrity)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Balthazar Napolean de Bourbon, a jovial Indian lawyer and part-time farmer settled in Bhopal, has been told that he is the first in line to the lost French throne.

...with that and a Franc you can get yourself a cup of expresso...

19 posted on 03/05/2007 11:03:34 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: FLOutdoorsman
I downloaded a TV program a while back from a UK torrent website titled: Britain's Real Monarch. Here's a link to the page regarding the program and the findings of an historian:

Real Monarch

According to the program, a Michael Hastings, living in Australia is the "real" King of England.

20 posted on 03/05/2007 11:04:03 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: mainepatsfan
He'll have to fight it out with Napoléon VII Charles.

...or I'll see your king & raise you an emperor...

21 posted on 03/05/2007 11:05:18 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: kalee

They were both awful.


22 posted on 03/05/2007 11:05:57 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan

Can't be any worse than that barf-fest "The Necklace"


23 posted on 03/05/2007 11:07:17 AM PST by najida (One day, a door opens, and you get a chance to start over. But the phone rings......)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

He would be better of if he claimed he knocked up Anna Nicole Smith.


24 posted on 03/05/2007 11:11:09 AM PST by U S Army EOD (Support your local EOD Detachment)
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To: Tallguy

I wonder if there are any of Maximilian's heirs laying claim to the Mexican throne?


25 posted on 03/05/2007 11:14:42 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: najida

They're neck and neck.


26 posted on 03/05/2007 11:16:22 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan
I wonder if there are any of Maximilian's heirs laying claim to the Mexican throne?

Was Maximilian (late emperor of Mexico) a Habsburg? I think he was. There are quite a few of them still kicking around I think.

27 posted on 03/05/2007 11:17:20 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

Yes he was.


28 posted on 03/05/2007 11:19:36 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: FLOutdoorsman

29 posted on 03/05/2007 11:22:59 AM PST by xp38
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To: mainepatsfan

Lordy,
that movie was so bad. I was waiting for Marie to start chewing gum and break in to Valleygirl speak.


30 posted on 03/05/2007 11:25:31 AM PST by najida (One day, a door opens, and you get a chance to start over. But the phone rings......)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Man, they're outsourcing everything these days.
31 posted on 03/05/2007 11:26:03 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: najida
In the Kirsten Dunst movie half of it was dedicated to Marie and Louis' small talk at dinner and in bed. Very exciting. /s
32 posted on 03/05/2007 11:28:06 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Now we are even outsourcing pretenders to the throne to India.


33 posted on 03/05/2007 1:47:27 PM PST by Cavalcabo (Sancte Michael, defende nos in proelio, contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

The really good bourbon is Tennessee sipping whisky....some call it Black Jack or


34 posted on 03/05/2007 1:51:22 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P.)
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35 posted on 03/05/2007 2:52:04 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ( for those in Rio Linda, there's conservapedia)
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To: SunkenCiv

If the French people (er, non-Muslim French people) become desperate enough for a national unifying fixture, reinstallation of the monarchy is an effective option.


36 posted on 03/05/2007 7:35:20 PM PST by Ciexyz (Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
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To: mainepatsfan
I wonder if there are any of Maximilian's heirs laying claim to the Mexican throne?
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Actually Mexico started off as a monarchy before it became a republic. Here's the first imperial family's story. (Nowadays everybody's got a website.)

Imperial House of Mexico
37 posted on 03/06/2007 12:51:15 AM PST by Cheburashka ( World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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38 posted on 06/16/2010 7:56:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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Thanks, Civ.

I have heard this story before, and read portions of the book. Interesting.

Geneology is fascinating and an important tool in understanding Western History.

Surely the family that calls themselves the heirs to the throne of France, Henri, Comte de Paris, part of a loathsome monarchist family full o adulterers and divorced people. Henri refuses to communicate with his own father and sold the family jewels and properties at auction.


39 posted on 06/16/2010 10:10:38 PM PDT by Cincinna (TIME TO REBUILD * ? * RYAN * 2012)
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Il est difficile d’être humble quand vous êtes français.

:)


40 posted on 06/17/2010 2:59:45 AM PDT by aimee5291
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To: mainepatsfan

Someone held you at gunpoint and forced you to watch the Marie Antoinette movie? The costumes were gorgeous. But I already knew how it was going to end.


41 posted on 06/17/2010 5:55:48 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: mainepatsfan

The Bonapartes are arrivistes with a very dubious claim.


42 posted on 06/17/2010 5:57:39 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: mainepatsfan

Maximilian had no direct heirs.


43 posted on 06/17/2010 6:12:18 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Utter and complete Hogwash. The Legitimist heir to the French throne is Prince Louis Alphonse de Bourbon, Duke of Anjou (Luis Alfonso Gonzalo Víctor Manuel Marco de Borbón y Martínez-Bordiú; born in 1974 in Madrid). He is head of the French Royal House, according to legitimists, who quite reasonably consider the renunciation of Philip V of Spain as invalid, as well as a direct descendant of Alfonso XIII of Spain. He is a first cousin once removed of King Don Juan Carlos. As king, he would be named Louis XX of France.

He is handsome, well educated, accomplished, works for a living and apparently a very decent guy. And has about as much chance at the "French throne" as I do.

44 posted on 06/17/2010 6:17:15 AM PDT by La Lydia
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You’re most welcome, thanks for the re-ping!


45 posted on 06/17/2010 7:09:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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