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Posted on 03/10/2007 2:23:40 PM PST by aft_lizard
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To: Larry Lucido
But who'd want to shop at a Spartan store? I'd think a Corinthian store would have a lot better selection and be a lot more fun to shop at.
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posted on
03/11/2007 6:48:45 PM PDT
by
The_Reader_David
(And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
To: The_Reader_David
So do you go for the columns or the leather? :-)
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posted on
03/11/2007 6:53:34 PM PDT
by
Larry Lucido
(Duncan Hunter 2008)
To: Ironclad
Hmmm. As I recall, it wasn't the Athenians who encouraged homosexuality in their military; that was a Spartan thing. "Boy loving" (as opposed to "man loving") refers to pederasty which the Athenians were quite fond of.
Athenian pederasty
As far as I am concerned, if an entire army of adult male warriors is willing to die to the last man on the battlefield to protect my country and they leave the boys and the rest of us straight guys alone, whatever buggery they engage in with each other is fine with me.
Those Spartans saved Western Civilization at Thermopylae and I salute them regardless of what they did with their "bothers in arms" the night before the battle.
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posted on
03/11/2007 6:54:57 PM PDT
by
Polybius
To: minus_273
I agree with your input. We need to look at this film and look at parallels to today. I loved the movie and the message. Hopefully more people will go see this movie and understand the parallels. The politician played his part to a t just shows politicians haven't changed in 2500 years. For those who haven't seen it go see it.
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posted on
03/11/2007 9:16:58 PM PDT
by
Sgt Duck
To: Fairview
Sorry for the parental gender confusion. I salute you. You must be a strong woman to have taken your son to the film and engaged in a discussion of the principals of freedom,honor and commitment that the Spartans demonstrated as depicted.
The EGA is shorthand for "Eagle, Globe and Anchor", the symbol of The United States Marine Corps. Recruits at boot camp are not allowed to call themselves Marines or wear the emblem of the Marine Corps until the day before the graduation ceremony. On Family Day, the recruits form up and march onto the parade deck (asphalt marching area) in front of stands filled with family members, friends and well wishers. They march for the assembled visitors and receive from their Drill Instructors three things: 1)The symbol of the Marine Corps, an Eagle Globe and Anchor pin to wear on their uniform 2) A handshake and 3)The verbal acknowledgment from the DI for the FIRST time that the recruit is no longer a recruit, but a Marine.
Many a tear is shed in this moving ceremony. Hard to put it into words. Something that must be experienced.
If you son chooses to become a Marine, he will have to earn the EGA. If your son becomes a Marine, YOU will have the HARDEST job in the Corps, being a M.O.M. . . .
Mother Of a Marine.
Best wishes to you and your son.
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posted on
03/12/2007 7:53:43 AM PDT
by
Mr. Jazzy
(Very Proud Dad of LCpl Smoothguy242 USMC of 1/3 Marines, K-Bay Hawaii.)
To: aft_lizard
OK, saw this today and loved it. Absolutely concise telling of the classic story, without being corny. Persians=bad, Greeks=good, Spartans=best of the Greeks. (Course, the "boy-loving" Athenians might disagree).
It accurately depicts phalanx warfare, and consolidates everything Victor Davis Hanson says about "western way of war" vs. non-western in a 90 minute movie. Fantastic.
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posted on
03/12/2007 4:13:18 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: PzLdr
1) It's a movie. As such, it's not trying to cover every base.
2) It was fantastic.
3) It's a movie.
4) It consolidates the "western way of war" vs. the non-western, with its reliance on gimmicks, sheer numbers, and slave soldiers, better than any I've ever seen.
5) It's a movie.
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posted on
03/12/2007 4:15:09 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: racing fan
Sorry, this is oodles better than "Gladiator," and both I and my teenage son hated "Sin City." Loved this one.
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posted on
03/12/2007 4:17:41 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: Ironclad
actually any adult caught with a boy was stoned to death. Especially around the time of Pericles. It is literally etched in stone.
Adults who were caught were banished for life.
In a society dominated by agrarian production, you don't have much use for those who don't know what goes where and with who.
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posted on
03/13/2007 9:56:59 AM PDT
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: finnman69
there were no metrosexuals at Thermopylae
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posted on
03/13/2007 10:02:48 AM PDT
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: LS
The initial phalanx charge was really interestinf and probably very accurate. It really reminded me of NFL linebackers colliding, only with shields and spears.
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posted on
03/13/2007 1:18:40 PM PDT
by
finnman69
(cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
To: aft_lizard
I just saw the movie. If the words "live free or die" make sense to you, then this movie will make sense to you. I don't know about the history (ignorance, not doubt). But as a story of (military) character, or the lack thereof, it can hardly be beat. It has good, memorable lines, and lots of action. The cynics will criticize the dialog. In my view, truths have been uttered before, untruths are novel. There are tons of battle scenes and lots of killing. It is a war movie, after all. I found the tactics to be interesting and understandable. Huge, unfamiliar beasts were bigger than in real life. Perhaps that is how it would have seemed in an age before zoos, etc. Did someone say "ripping good yarn?" Well, they were right. It's inspiring too. Parallels for today? That is for each to add, as he/she wishes. It's no chick flick, but the queen is admirable.
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posted on
03/17/2007 1:00:53 PM PDT
by
ChessExpert
(Reagan defeated the Soviet Union despite the Democratic party. We could use another miracle.)
To: ChessExpert
This film is still #1 at the box office. Long may it reign!
73
posted on
03/17/2007 5:35:13 PM PDT
by
Ciexyz
(Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
To: Ciexyz
I hope you like the movie.
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posted on
03/17/2007 6:11:31 PM PDT
by
ChessExpert
(Reagan defeated the Soviet Union despite the Democratic party. We could use another miracle.)
To: ChessExpert
It was an amazing, awe-inspiring movie. Never saw anything like it on the big screen. Closest to it was an adult cartoon series on Alexander the Great made by Tokyo Pop -- a graphic novel cartoon, I believe there were a dozen episodes. It was called the Alexander Project - Reign the Conqueror.
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posted on
03/17/2007 6:38:02 PM PDT
by
Ciexyz
(Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
To: aft_lizard
America wants Europe to stand and fight for freedom. Radical Islam is kinder, and only asks Europe to kneel in submission.
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posted on
04/04/2007 5:02:42 PM PDT
by
ChessExpert
(Mohamed was not a moderate Muslim)
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