Skip to comments.Rose Fever: Pursuit of the perfect garden (a springtime vanity)
Posted on 03/18/2007 8:05:23 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum
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Do I win any small appliances (or plant cuttings) for getting 00? LOL
Did you get a chance to look at my reenactment newsletter? It's still little, only the first edition, but I laid it out and wrote a part of it....Next time I will include some crafty stuff...starting perhaps with a series on plain sewing...
and period gardening!
Wow, looks great!
I enjoyed the articles and the combination of old looking fonts and verbiage with modern imbedded photos. The best of re-enacting! :-)
I should send a link to my friend who lives part time in Haley...
Do it! That would be cool....
I just sent it off. Let me know if you hear from her. :-) (I hope I have the right addy, it's been awhile since I corresponded...)
Cool site with pictures, too many to post here:
The Heritage Rose Foundation:
Goals of the Heritage Rose Foundation
§ The collection of roses originating in the nineteenth century or earlier and roses with particular historic, educational, or genetic value (heritage roses).
§ The establishment of one or more gardens wherein heritage roses may be grown and displayed.
§ The advancement of research and investigations into heritage roses, including history, identification, genetics and breeding, propagation, diseases and pests, and suitability for landscape use.
§ The publishing and dissemination of information about heritage roses, including any and all research that emanates from the foundation.
§ The establishement and maintenace of a library of books, periodicals, research papers, manuscripts, catalogues, and other items to facilitate further research and investigation into heritage roses.
§ The establishment of public knowledge of heritage roses through seminars, meetings, forums, panels, lectures, tours and exhibits designed to encourage and increase the public's perception of heritage roses.
I was doing a bit of this today, but I hit hardpan that last bit - but it's a raised bed, so it's not so awful. Added compost, a little sand, gypsum:
Every gardener's goal is--or at least should be--near-perfect soil. One technique for transforming so-so soil into super soil has several names. In some circles it's known as French-intensive gardening. Others call it bio-dynamic gardening. More commonly it's known as "double-digging."
No matter what you call it, it's the most backbreaking method of gardening. However, it's also the surest way to super soil. While it takes a tremendous amount of effort up front, the payoff--in the form of healthier, more productive plants--is almost immediate. Caution: If you have back problems or other health problems that prevent you from performing strenuous activity, forget about double-digging.
First, define the area where the digging will take place. Then soak the area with water a day or two prior to digging (unless it has rained recently) to make digging easier.
The tool to use for this is a square spade--a long-handled version is a little easier on the back. Speaking of the back, before getting started, you might want to do some stretching so you don't strain anything.
With the spade, dig a trench one-foot wide and one-foot deep down the entire length of the bed. Toss the excavated soil into a wheelbarrow or garden cart. With the trench complete, stab the spading fork into the subsoil, rocking it back and forth, to loosen the subsoil down to a depth of one foot. At this point, spread a two- to three-inch layer of compost over the exposed subsoil. Move over one spade's width in the bed, and begin to dig out another trench. But this time toss the excavated soil into the adjacent trench, the one you just added compost to.
When the digging is done, apply a two- to three-inch layer of compost on top of the bed, and gently work it into the top six inches of soil. By adding compost between the soil layers in the trenches as well as on top of the bed, you raise the bed roughly six inches above the original soil level.
You don't have to dig the entire garden all at once. Instead, work small areas, say, three feet square, whenever you wish. Once you double-dig a bed, don't walk on it. After all, the whole point is to loosen the topsoil and the subsoil to a depth of two feet so plant roots can grow unrestricted and water can readily percolate through the soil. Walking on the soil packs it down again.
If you've been wanting to improve your soil, especially for growing plants such as vegetables or roses, double-digging is the best way to do it. However, remember to start small, pace yourself and avoid straining your back. A few tips on spade safety are listed below:
* First, select a spade that's right for you and the job you're tackling. Short-handled spades are better for short folks or for working in tight spots, whereas long-handled equivalents seem to work better for folks taller than 6 feet. For serious digging, a pointed spade may work better, but a square-end version, if it's heavy enough, will allow you to make a cleaner, more uniformly shaped trench.
* Don't try to lift more than you can handle comfortably. Chances are you'll find that by taking smaller amounts, you can actually dig more for longer periods of time.
* As you work, take your time, and try to establish a rhythm. As soon as you feel you've had enough or you find it difficult to straighten up, stop. If you push beyond this point, you're likely to hurt yourself. Take a break, or save the rest of the digging for another day.
* Finally, when doing a lot of heavy digging, be sure to scrape the blade of soil now and then, and if necessary, use a file to sharpen the end of the spade, following the original bevel of the blade.
Tip: There's a big difference between a cheap spading fork and a good one. The tines on a cheap fork are thin, flat and bend easily in all but the fluffiest soils, but those on a good spading fork are square and will endure the toughest conditions. Good forks cost a bit more but will last much longer.
Man, I thought you were writing this yourself, after not feeling well...
I was going to type sternly at you! ;-)
Hope you're feeling better.
I did do some of it today..finally began feeling better. did about 1/4 of my bed.
Some pains work out better with some activity.
And it's a raised bed, so the digging's not that hard.
Good to hear. :-)
I like the tip about soaking the area first to soften the ground. Remind me of that April 13, when I have a chance to start digging....
God bless you - you are my spiritual twin. I have nearly the same story as you; I have one child that is 22, and another that is eight. We have had three miscarriages after them (two very early, and one later) and my husband planted a rose garden to ease our pain.
Our "babies' rose" is Knock Out, plus some others which have been added. We have a little sleeping angel statue, plus a little laughing bunny and duck. The rose bring joy to us, and never ceases to remind us of the wonder of God's gifts of love to us - our children...
God Bless you too. I love my rose garden & theres a bench to sit & think. I do that at least once a day and I look at all the roses planted . Theres a Peace rose for my departed mother, a Sterling for my brother and so many more. I plant garlic next to my bushes because my mother always did and we put coffee grounds into the soil because my aunt did. She grew Rose Trees but I haven't gotten that far. I just love being able to sit there and watch the clouds go by and smell my roses. I pray there quite a bit too. It was wonderful to meet you...~Pandora~
Would you like on the Ping list? I'm trying to make sure something gets posted and pinged out every day, one or two stories...
ROSES ARE BLUE
Scientists Genetically Engineer the Impossible
It was announced on June 30 that Suntory and an Australian company, Florigene, had pulled off the feat of genetically engineering the world's first blue rose, something that had long been considered the holy grail of horticulturalists. The team of developers intends to continue efforts to make the roses bluer and also to consider any possible effects on other plants and the environment, with the goal of releasing this new flower commercially in 2007 or 2008.
Adding Blue Genes from Pansies
The rose has a very long history; it was first cultivated by ancient civilizations 5,000 years ago, and more than 25,000 varieties have been produced since then, in such colors as red, pink, white, and yellow. One color that had proved impossible, however, was blue. The pigment that makes some other flowers blue is called delphinidin, but roses lack the genes to produce it.
Focusing on this point, Suntory and its partner began joint development in 1990. First, they took the genes for blueness from blue flowers like petunias, aiming to embed this genetic material in roses and create a blue specimen. Though this method did not succeed with roses, it was found to work on carnations. One of the byproducts of the development process was the commercialization of the world's first blue carnation in 1995, which soon became a popular product. Some 10 million of these flowers were produced around the world in 2003.
The blue rose that was successfully created was made by introducing blue genes extracted from pansies. Differing from previous efforts to produce blue roses through existing hybridization technology, the petals of the roses were altered so that they were composed almost entirely of delphinidin, making it possible to breed varieties more susceptible to hybridization. While the rose is referred to as "blue," its actual color is closer to blueish-purple. Though certain genes are a necessary precondition for producing a blue rose, a flower's color is also dependent on nongenetic factors.
The two companies intend to continue pursuing this line of research, with the goal of engineering a rose with a sky-blue color similar to that of morning glories. They hope to create a product for which a ¥30 billion ($272 million at ¥110 to the dollar) market could develop in the future.
Research Producing Results
Suntory's rival Kirin Brewery Co., meanwhile, has improved on the vital, a small carnation it developed in 1999. The company has created over 20 varieties, including yellow and pink flowers and even some with round petals. Kirin expects sales of these carnations to top ¥10 billion ($90 million) this year, up roughly 300% over 2003.
The National Agriculture and Bio-oriented Research
Organization has developed basic technology for embedding genes into chrysanthemums at a high efficiency. If this technology is applied, the growing of extraordinary blue and red chrysanthemums may prove to be more than just a dream.
By manipulating genes, it is possible to alter not only a flower's color but also its pattern. Researchers at the Tokyo University of Agriculture and Technology have pinned down the gene that controls the pattern of carnations. There is also a method of forcefully causing sudden alterations of genes. The research institute Riken is conducting studies aimed at producing new types of flowers by removing DNA from flowers with an ion beam inside an accelerator called a cyclotron. A spokesperson for the institute says, "While it is difficult to create a color to specification, it is possible to alter the genes that create pigment. If blue pigment can be created via gene splicing, it may be possible to strengthen the pigment and make a completely blue flower." In the future, flower varieties produced by genetic manipulation may even outnumber those produced the traditional way.
Thank you both, and what a wonderful way to ease the pain while celebrating your children's existence.
I'm not a rose grower, too intimidated, but this thread makes it seem so tempting and possible. :-)
A sniff and a cheer! :-)
I'm trimming and clipping. LOL ;-)
Fabric, not roses...
That was interesting!
And then there's nuts like me who want to recreate historically correct gardens (my backyard project for the future) and we look for varieties that have been grown or are similar to ones that have been grown for hundreds of years.
I was so intimidated by growing roses. But it is not as hard as we think. They are hardier than we think too. Start with one and before you know it, you will have more. ;) If I can do it, anyone can LOL It is possible. :)
This house had one raised bed that I had to tear down and rebuild, and one sick tree that still looks like a sapling, though it's 9 years old. Just about a blank slate.
I found out my soil is quite alkaline, so I am in the process of amending it. In mid April, I will be planting five roses (they're reserved and sitting in the greenhouse to root better), all floribundas. It's in front of a bay window, so I had to select carefully.
It's been great fun.
If you can keep the weeds down, they are not nearly as tricky as some people think...now having them be in award winner quality is a different issue...but roses are much easier to grow than a lot of flowers, and if they get enough sunlight, they can last long years with no care even....
I'm not a rose grower, too intimidated,......YOU can do it!! There is great advice on here and its not all that hard...If I can so you...Good Luck!
Aren't they. They are so easy to grow too. :)
Hey, girlies... enjoying the conversation here. I went out for walkies at lunchtime, found a nice residential street adjacent to the hospital to walk in the Spring sunshine.
Someone's rose bushes are showing 1-2 blooms each already. I had to stop for a breathtaking deep peachy, pink orange HT... huge bloom, old bush.
These are much loved, long cared for rose bushes with a bright southern exposure. L.A. is quite the rose show in springtime.
Guess I'd better "spring" for some film for my camera, not having gone digital like the rest of the world...:)
Pinzie, you can do it!!! Now is the time: start with just 3.
"Bride's Dream" is sublime, Gracie...;^)
I sort of lean towards Glamis Castle, myself...I like the old style roses best I think.
That way we could admire each other's garden....;^)
Hi Dita :)
Sounds like a wonderful walk! :) I fumbled around trying to bird houses up today. Will try again tomorrow ;).
I can't wait to see blooming roses! :)
Digital cameras are so handy! I'm going to take pictures of my garden coming to life! I already have the one pic of what the garden wall looked like after I rebuild it. When I get the roses planted, I will take more pics and watch them grow this year!
I'm going to Costco tomorrow. Who knows, I may become tempted in the electronics department...*grin*
Maybe an early birthday present to myself (thinking, thinking...:)
Roses have a long and colorful history. They have been symbols of love, beauty, war, and politics. The rose is, according to fossil evidence, 35 million years old. In nature, the genus Rosa has some 150 species spread throughout the Northern Hemisphere, from Alaska to Mexico and including northern Africa. Garden cultivation of roses began some 5,000 years ago, probably in China. During the Roman period, roses were grown extensively in the Middle East. They were used as confetti at celebrations, for medicinal purposes, and as a source of perfume. Roman nobility established large public rose gardens in the south of Rome. After the fall of the Roman Empire, the popularity of roses seemed to rise and fall depending on gardening trends of the time.
White Rose of York
During the fifteenth century, the rose was used as a symbol for the factions fighting to control England. The white rose symbolized York, and the red rose symbolized Lancaster, as a result, the conflict became known as the "War of the Roses."
Roses were in such high demand during the seventeenth century that royalty considered roses or rose water as legal tender, and they were often used as barter and for payments. Napoleon's wife Josephine established an extensive collection of roses at Chateau de Malmaison, an estate seven miles west of Paris in the 1800s. This garden became the setting for Pierre Joseph Redoute's work as a botanical illustrator. In 1824, he completed his watercolor collection "Les Rose," which is still considered one of the finest records of botanical illustration.
It wasn't until the late eighteenth century that cultivated roses were introduced into Europe from China. Most modern-day roses can be traced back to this ancestry. These introductions were repeat bloomers, making them unusual and of great interest to hybridizers, setting the stage for breeding work with native roses to select for hardiness and a long bloom season. Many of these early efforts by plant breeders are of great interest to today's gardeners.
Carefree delight shrub rose hedge
Roses are once again enjoying a resurgence in popularity, specifically, shrub roses and old garden roses. Gardeners realize that these roses fit the lifestyle of today's gardeners who want roses that are not as demanding with regard to disease control, offer excellent floral quality, have excellent winter hardiness, and fit into shrub borders and perennial gardens without seeming out of place.
To be successful in growing roses in Midwest gardens, one needs to be aware of some basic considerations. Attention to plant selection, a basic knowledge of the wide array of classes available, basic culture information, and information about potential disease and insect problems will go a long way in making roses an enjoyable addition to the garden.
This short guide to rose gardening will hopefully help sort through some of the confusion about roses and entice you to include one or more of these plants in your garden.
(this is from Illinois. The site has much about rose gardening on it:)
I'm going to be out a good bit today, but chat away!
Hey! We could be the FR Rose Society!
Gorgeous, gorgeous rose pics, in all sorts of colors!
Which one do you think is the best? I am leaning towards one
of the pinks, but I am not sure.....
Oooh, pretty pretty! I especially have a fondness for apricot/peach colored roses; I especially love the way that "Charles Austin" rose looks in the picture! My apricot roses are "Mrs. Oakley Fisher", "Peach Beauty", and "Monteczuma". But I have to say the pinks are always lovely.
Have you ordered any yet? Do let us know which ones you choose!
Oooh! OOOOOH! News from my garden...
Up to bat: "Climbing Pinkie" bloomed today (Central Texas, zone 8a) - my first rose blossom of the season. A beautiful small shell pink, fully double.
On Deck: Sweet Vivian, Knock Out, Autumn Damask, Granada. All are laden with blooms, but are still a few days away.
I have a Cherish, a Pink Sunblaze, a Sexy Rexy, and a yellow and a white that I don't remember the names of, but that were both beautiful. I'll pick them up on the 14th or 15th...
I've sent off for two books about 18th century gardens...I am hoping to get some ideas for something wonderful for the back yard. I want to include a red rose rosebed, and maybe some climbers. I will have a lot of room to play with, and I want it to be something inviting without a lot of lawn!
Great rose catalog online with a huge amount of information about the types of roses there are.
Oklahoma is a beautiful deep, dark red rose... a HT, I think, not an old rose.
Just found it in the catalog Knitting linked; heck, I like it too!
That is one pretty rose!
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with you here on the clay soil thing. I used to live in Arizona, where I had Adobe clay soil. It was well drained, however, so you're right there. Sandy soil isn't good for growing roses. Yes they need drainage, but sandy soil is way to pourous for them, because they love water, and sandy soil drains way too quickly.. Roses just don't like water standing on thier roots. Sandy soil also lacks in organic matter, which roses love.I grew 45 rose bushes in AZ, and all of them thrived. In fact They were humungous! I wish you could see my Queen Elizabeths! Some growers even recommend ADDING some clay soil to the planting holes. So if you have clay soil, it should be fine for your roses. No need to completely replace it. Just add compost, or rotted manure before planting, and be sure you have a well drained site. Clay or otherwise.
I dig lots of peat moss into my rose garden and have spectacular blooms. I'm in Pennsylvania. I do make sure the roses get sun almost all day long, by planting them on the south side of the house, and I am a nut about watering them religiously.
And that's about all I know about growing great roses.
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