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Diets damage health, shows biggest ever study
Daily Mail ^ | Apr. 9 2007 | FIONA MacRAE

Posted on 04/09/2007 9:46:18 PM PDT by carlo3b

Diets damage health, shows biggest ever study

By FIONA MacRAE - Last updated at 00:24am on 10th April 2007

Most people pile the pounds straight back on after dieting

The world's largest study of weight loss has shown that diets do not work for the vast majority of slimmers and may even put lives at risk.
More than two-thirds pile the pounds straight back on, raising the danger of heart attack, stroke and diabetes.
Indeed most dieters end up heavier than they did to start with, the researchers found.

They warn this type of yo-yo behaviour is linked to a host of health problems. And they say the strain that repeated weight loss and gain places on the body means most people would have been better off not dieting at all.

The findings follow other research that shows the UK is in the grip of a dieting frenzy, with one in four Britons at any one time trying to lose weight.

The average woman is estimated to lose and gain 251/2 stone during her lifetime - putting on 151/2 stone for the ten stone she loses through dieting. Last night, the U.S. scientists behind the latest research - the most thorough and comprehensive analysis of its kind - said that dieting simply does not work.

The University of California researchers analysed the results of more than 30 studies involving thousands of slimmers.

Although the overview did not name specific weight loss plans, popular diets in recent years include the low carbohydrate, high protein Atkins diet and the GI diet, which is rich in slow-burning wholegrain carbohydrates.
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Researcher Dr Traci Mann said: "You can initially lost 5 to 10 per cent of your weight on any number of diets.


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For the vast majority of people in this country, traditional weight loss remedies have only added to the crisis of overweight. The utter failure of most dieting schemes has only exacerbated the problem and furthered the decline of the physical, and emotional well being of the overweight.
1 posted on 04/09/2007 9:46:20 PM PDT by carlo3b
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To: carlo3b

The war on the overweight will begin now that smokers are bled dry.


2 posted on 04/09/2007 9:47:34 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Jim Robinson; Bob J; christie; stanz; jellybean; Angelique; Howie; TwoStep; piasa; Exit148; ...
After a lifetime as a Chef as well as a diet nutritionist, I have concluded that most diets can and do assist in taking weight off, however, for the overwhelming number of overweight folks, the benefits are only temporary at best, and for all too many, they are a cruel hoax.

Am I saying that diets don't work? Not on your life. What I am saying is that almost every diet, touted by the medical and professional mainstream punditry, leads to tragic results over the long-haul.

This excess weight problem has no gender, age, race, or socioeconomic preference. Overweight, has now become the most alarming and damaging national health emergency to endanger our citizenry, and most especially our children, since the onset of polio.

Over the past 40 years, chronic obesity and general weight problems have manifest themselves into a full-blown national tragedy. Ironically, during that same period we have witnessed a financial bonanza in the weight control, and diet industries. An endless array of books, pills, food supplements, strange recipe concoctions, exercise devices and grotesque medical procedures of all descriptions have been touted as the panacea.

Everyone that has ever tried to loose weight by dieting has to agree, that most will fail, and they will do so sooner rather than later. Predictably, regaining the lost pounds will result in deep disappointment, anger and guilt. This condition is almost always followed by a bout of depression, and you guessed it, obsessive eating, then more weight gain. The cycle begins again.
 
 


3 posted on 04/09/2007 9:49:14 PM PDT by carlo3b (Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.)
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To: carlo3b

Diets do not work but life style changes do.


4 posted on 04/09/2007 9:55:27 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: carlo3b; MS.BEHAVIN
A lot of diet can be controlled by getting busy.
Make your own meal.

Dining on instant pizza pie and beer probably wont behoove you.

Try to stick to fresh “unprocessed food too”

And for crying out loud... take a walk... Processed food is like a gut bomb waiting to to off

5 posted on 04/09/2007 9:59:14 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts-)
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To: TASMANIANRED
Diets do not work but life style changes do.

BINGO!

6 posted on 04/09/2007 10:00:51 PM PDT by carlo3b (Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.)
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To: mysterio
The war on the overweight will begin now that smokers are bled dry.

Follow the money.. is a pretty good bet!

7 posted on 04/09/2007 10:01:52 PM PDT by carlo3b (Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.)
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To: carlo3b

Im about 20 lbs over weight and I know what it is about.
I drink beer(prossesed carbs) and Im not as active as I used to be as a young adult


8 posted on 04/09/2007 10:03:34 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts-)
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To: mylife
And for crying out loud... take a walk... Processed food is like a gut bomb waiting to to off..

It is the start of a whole new life.. just a little walk can make a world of difference..

9 posted on 04/09/2007 10:03:36 PM PDT by carlo3b (Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.)
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To: carlo3b
Exercise. Lots of exercise
10 posted on 04/09/2007 10:04:14 PM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: carlo3b

I do it every day to compensate for my beer glut.L0L
Beer is liquid bread


11 posted on 04/09/2007 10:05:08 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts-)
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To: zarf
Exercise. Lots of exercise

Absolutely true.. but it would shock you at what a short frequent walk would do to your weight and general health..

12 posted on 04/09/2007 10:06:42 PM PDT by carlo3b (Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.)
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To: mylife

Yeah, me too. But every tough guy I ever knew had a bit of a gut on him. There’s no shame in it.


13 posted on 04/09/2007 10:07:22 PM PDT by miliantnutcase ("If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it." -ichabod1)
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To: carlo3b
I was considering becoming a Breatharian, but now that the Supreme Court has declared CO2 a pollutant I won't be able to exhale. :(
15 posted on 04/09/2007 10:09:54 PM PDT by jellybean (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT! Proud to be an Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: carlo3b

There is actually a simple solution to this...
everyone over the age of 50 who has never smoked should take it up pronto.

We’ll lose all the extra weight in the first year and not have to worry about lung cancer for 30 to 40 years by which time we’ll already be dead of old age.

The nanny state busybodies will all have coronaries and the government leeches will have a new, larger tax stream so maybe they’ll leave productive endeavors alone. (Okay, a girl can dream can’t she!)

It’s either that or we sue all the Indian casinos for foisting tobacco on us unsuspecting Anglos and use the money to lose weight on our mandatory eight week vacation to the spa of our choice each and every working year.


16 posted on 04/09/2007 10:11:14 PM PDT by anonsquared
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To: confederatetrappedinmidwest

LOL...

Middle age spread sux.


17 posted on 04/09/2007 10:12:00 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: carlo3b
Dr. Atkins died a fat, unhealthy man.

Exercise is still the best remedy, although I of all people, need to follow this advice more than anyone here.

18 posted on 04/09/2007 10:12:46 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: jellybean

Ha!.. Stop breathing.. LOL .. I knew that the dems would want to find a way to kill us to save the Snail Darter.. :)


19 posted on 04/09/2007 10:13:54 PM PDT by carlo3b (Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.)
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To: carlo3b

And Carlo? Prosessed carbs are so conviniant for the manufacturer and consumer, they have a long shelf life and are easy to use. That makes them cheap and convenient. I love bread and beer, but Slow...down... get a nice salad and a nice bit of meat, these dont absorb as quickly into your system.
And for crying out loud, take a walk after the chocolate mousse!


20 posted on 04/09/2007 10:14:28 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts-)
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To: carlo3b
Absolutely true.. but it would shock you at what a short frequent walk would do to your weight and general health..

A short short walk is better than nothing however raising your heart rate for moderate intervals during a vigorous exercise is better.

21 posted on 04/09/2007 10:15:03 PM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: carlo3b

We have gal at work that litreally cant get out of her own way.
Its painful to me to look at.

She walks at 1/4 a foot a minute but is first in line for cake or pie
Stop shoveling down sugar Honey!


22 posted on 04/09/2007 10:20:22 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts-)
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To: zarf

Sometimes it’s not necessarily just what you are eating, but the size of the portions (especially at restaurants...no shame in asking for a box for the rest of the dinner :-| ), and eating closer to when you turn in for the night. If I slow down when I eat, I find I eat less by the end of the meal.

And some moderate exercise is good.

But other than getting physical education back into school curriculum more (been cut in a lot of schools) and some basic food health taught to young students, that’s about as far as I want government involved...wish people would avail themselves of a doctor’s checkup more often as preventative care.


23 posted on 04/09/2007 10:25:10 PM PDT by Studious
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To: carlo3b
I have to take issue with you Carlo.

It is not diets that are to blame.

It is simply that people are weak. They don't understand that changing one's diet, means changing their life permanently, not just until the pounds come off.

As I see my midsection starting to expand a little, I have a choice to make. I can make adjustments to my life to keep the pounds off, or I can become a victim to a lack of will.

Diets work, all of them. So does exercise. People are weak and lazy. I blame them.

24 posted on 04/09/2007 10:26:04 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: carlo3b
Here is how you lose weight

1. Eat 3 small meals per day

2. Eat a couple of light snacks if needed

3. NO Sugar

4. No alcohol or smoking

5. Exercise 3-5 times per week

6. Reduce Stress

7. Get plenty of good quality sleep

Of course this will never fly for the quickfix crowd of today and the millons of people who have "thyroid" problems.

25 posted on 04/09/2007 10:28:33 PM PDT by LukeL (Never let the enemy pick the battle site. (Gen. George S. Patton))
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To: mylife

tRUE


26 posted on 04/09/2007 10:29:40 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: carlo3b

Perhaps I can buy some carbon credits from Algore and breathe every other day. : /


27 posted on 04/09/2007 10:30:42 PM PDT by jellybean (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT! Proud to be an Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: Clemenza

: )


28 posted on 04/09/2007 10:31:22 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: carlo3b

*shrug* I’m down to 280...


29 posted on 04/09/2007 10:33:27 PM PDT by null and void (To Marines, male bonding happens in Boot Camp, to Democrats, it happens at a Gay Pride parade...)
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To: Studious

Most restaurant meals can be cut in half at the beginning of the meal, with one portion eaten and the other saved for the next day’s lunch.


30 posted on 04/09/2007 10:34:04 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Pukin Dog
They don't understand that changing one's diet, means changing their life permanently, not just until the pounds come off.

Bingo. That's the problem. If you go off your "diet" and back into the type of eating that made you fat in the first place, you will get fat agin. It's pretty simple, IMO!

31 posted on 04/09/2007 10:34:56 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Every Thread a BYJ Thread (http://www.byj.co.kr/))
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To: LukeL

I have a problem with the no alcohol thing.


32 posted on 04/09/2007 10:36:17 PM PDT by MarkeyD (Make your Red State a Fred State!)
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To: TASMANIANRED
"Diets do not work but life style changes do.

Agree.

33 posted on 04/09/2007 10:38:07 PM PDT by blam
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To: Clemenza

I used the Adkins diet (modified with regard to fats and eggs) at the advice of my physician and it got me down from 240 to 210, and worked where other diets didn’t. Then, started a *lot* more exercise with that baggage off, brought my carbs back up. Now at 215, and eat a fair amount of carbs, but watching my food portions now more than anything else.
I have no major complaints with using the diet to get the initial weight off, and my doctor had recommended me using the Adkins diet.


34 posted on 04/09/2007 10:39:28 PM PDT by Studious
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To: Tamar1973

If it were that simple one would go back to their original weight.

It isn’t. People usually gain much more than they lose.


35 posted on 04/09/2007 10:40:25 PM PDT by null and void (To Marines, male bonding happens in Boot Camp, to Democrats, it happens at a Gay Pride parade...)
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To: LukeL

NOPE....people need SOME treats during a week....the key is saving your treats to be actual “TREATS.” Not “treating” yourself with them everyday, but having them occasionally (in small amounts) on a weekend, for instance. People find it VERY difficult to go without ANY sugar or ANY alcohol (if they’ve been a wine/beer imbiber) before.


36 posted on 04/09/2007 10:40:30 PM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: null and void
If it were that simple one would go back to their original weight.

People usually don't stop their diet until they reach somewhere close to their "original weight" but rather than continuing to maintain where they are, they stop their diet, get back into eating the crap that made them fat, gain the weight back and then some.

The key is that it has to be a permanent lifestyle change, not a temporary change that one endures until you reach a goal.

37 posted on 04/09/2007 10:42:45 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Every Thread a BYJ Thread (http://www.byj.co.kr/))
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To: carlo3b
I agree with you Carlo, but I am an exception to the rule. I lost 135 lbs on my own, and 21 years later, it is still off. Is it easy? No, but I did it and I have vowed never to be overweight again. I did not do a fad diet however, I ate the same foods I always had, just less. It works and I didn’t feel deprived of the things I loved.
38 posted on 04/09/2007 10:44:13 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Tamar1973
It’s the ‘and then some’ I was referring to. Weight loss has to be subtle to avoid triggering a famine response that causes the body to have a higher set point against the next famine/diet.
39 posted on 04/09/2007 10:46:02 PM PDT by null and void (To Marines, male bonding happens in Boot Camp, to Democrats, it happens at a Gay Pride parade...)
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To: Clemenza

I think Dr Atkins died as the result of a fall and I don’t think he was fat. On the news today a study said the Atkins diet had the best long term results not only in weight loss but general health.


40 posted on 04/09/2007 10:49:15 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: carlo3b
Researcher Dr Traci Mann said: "You can initially lost 5 to 10 per cent of your weight on any number of diets.

I really, really hope this wasn't an accurate quote.
41 posted on 04/09/2007 10:55:19 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Clemenza
It appears that his weight wasn't due to his diet but fluid retention during a coma.

Was Dr. Atkins obese when he died?
42 posted on 04/09/2007 10:56:01 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Clemenza
And Benjamin Franklin died without a microwave oven. It doesn't mean that the theory is incorrect.
43 posted on 04/09/2007 10:56:31 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: Clemenza
Dr. Atkins died a fat, unhealthy man.

Dr Atkins died from a blow to the head when he fell during one of his daily walks. Death of Dr Atkins. He weighed 195 pounds when he was admitted to the hospital...

44 posted on 04/09/2007 11:00:45 PM PDT by tubebender (Whom keeps stealing my Tag Line???)
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To: ladyinred; carlo3b

And you look great, Californian Lady-in-Red. Well done.

I noticed that slender to medium people willingly hop on the scales regularly and acknowledge their weight. At the same time, I noticed that overweight people won’t step on the scales and don’t want to know their weight.

So, I decided to weigh myself every single day and it works for me. Plus, I drink simple tap water as my beverage — no juices or milk — which cuts out unnecessary calories and saves me at least $1 per day.


45 posted on 04/09/2007 11:02:00 PM PDT by Kay
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To: Clemenza
Atkins died as a result of a fall on ice outside the hospital he worked at. He suffered an inter-cranial bleed and had been pumped full of fluids prior to his death to maintain blood pressure. The information you are parroting was released illegally by a PETA front group known as Physicians For Responsible Medicine. Please get your facts strait.
46 posted on 04/09/2007 11:06:46 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: carlo3b

Having absorbed a ton of conflicting material and scanned dozens of diet plans, the only thing one comes away with is the not so novel idea that the key to weight loss that stays off and gives you greater longevity is restricting your intake to ONLY good whole foods, IN MODERATION. Eating TWICE as much of good food with half the carbs, or fat, or calories equals exactly the same amount contained in the bad food, or the good food DOUBLED, which defeats the whole idea/ There is NO food you want to eat in unlimited quantities.Eating less of the right foods will take off the weight, making a regimen like that part of your daily life will KEEP weight off.Portion control is the key. Eating tiny or smallish portions several times a day is the way to go. DON’T avoid breakfast, for obvious reasons. Having something to eat as soon as you get up will break the cycle so many dieters have experienced over and over: the idiotic “starving” that carries on through what would and should be breakfast and/or lunch, then GORGING on food starting with dinner, and ending up usually with an after=midnight fridge raid of god-only-knows-what.


47 posted on 04/09/2007 11:59:15 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: goodnesswins

Of course the occasional sweet, drink, or fastfood item is okay. But you should limit yourslef to one bad meal every two weeks, and maybe a couple pieces of candy or one slice of cake a week.

Of course if you look at what use to be a serving 30 years ago compared to today you can see why we are fat.


48 posted on 04/10/2007 2:09:42 AM PDT by LukeL (Never let the enemy pick the battle site. (Gen. George S. Patton))
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To: aruanan

-Researcher Dr Traci Mann said: “You can initially lost 5 to 10 per cent of your weight on any number of diets.-

You can lose 5 lbs in the first week but it is usually water and lost because of lower salt in the diet. The first 10 lbs are easy to lose and gain back.


49 posted on 04/10/2007 4:07:35 AM PDT by KeyWest (Help stamp out taglines!)
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To: KeyWest
-Researcher Dr Traci Mann said: “You can initially lost 5 to 10 per cent of your weight on any number of diets.-

Look at the quote and see what's wrong.
50 posted on 04/10/2007 4:17:24 AM PDT by aruanan
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