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Posted on 04/13/2007 10:47:15 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
Oliver Jones provides an even-handed summary: "I've been a stalwart Solaris x86 user for many years now - I refuse to run Linux on my hardware, when Solaris makes the penguin look decidedly second-rate." For reliability, he says: "I truly can't fault the Sun option: I consider that if Solaris is good enough for the banks, it's good enough for me."
But, he also says: "To be honest, Solaris isn't without issues - the number one I see at the moment is the user experience (especially with regard to hardware support). Sun really needs to plough some more development resources into hardware support, but we're getting there: Solaris x86 is absolutely fantastic compared to how it was in 2004, but it still has a while to go. Having the likes of Nvidia on-board is great, and hopefully the hardware support will accrete with time - as more people see the benefits of going Sun."
(Excerpt) Read more at regdeveloper.co.uk ...
You’d have to be out of your mind to want anything to do with proprietary unix variants at this point.
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I disagree, you use the right tool for the right job.. If for no other reason than the hardware they tend to run on sometimes an OS like AIX or Solaris is the right too.
Why was BSD left out of this fight?
Some problems with how this is being evaluated
“However, for businesses, he thinks Solaris is a bit of a killer option - about the same level of difficulty to handle as Linux and “every Solaris installation basically works the same way”, he says, while, “Linux has a huge problem in that every distro has its own way of doing things, and it makes supporting Linux prohibitively expensive”.”
The cost of support for RedHat and Solaris are pretty close. He is correct in saying every distro does some things differently but who the heck runs different distors in a shop?
BUt the article does make some fair points..
We want platforms with support software ;)
Linux does far better than your experience, though. I have personally installed several Top 500 computers and they all run Linux. The latest one I did was a 1200+ node monster for the ARL in Aberdeen.
LOL, do you ever get anything right? Solaris support costs about half what Red Hat does.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/01/16/HNsunundercutsredhat_1.html
You’ve personally installed several supercomputers huh. Wasn’t very long ago you said you worked for some small device company building routers or something wasn’t it? Sorry to be so skeptical, but you were caught the other day claiming you had been quote “exclusively” using Linux on your laptop, when we knew from other older posts it actually had an instance of Windows on there.
Yep--changed jobs.
Sorry to be so skeptical, but you were caught the other day claiming you had been quote “exclusively” using Linux on your laptop, when we knew from other older posts it actually had an instance of Windows on there.
That "instance" is a VM, and my computer never boots up to Windows. That has been explained before, but since we can see you don't understand basic set theory, I don't expect you to admit that you don't know what you're talking about on this subject either.
LOL, I understand perfectly what the word “exclusively” means, and you haven’t been running Linux “exclusively” on your laptop no matter how you want to try to twist it.
And since your recent job change, you’ve supposedly already installed “several” supercomputers? That’s pretty funny too, since my experience with them is it can take a year or more to set a single one up. The actual top500 info on ARL shows about 1 per year for them as well.
http://www.top500.org/site/1820
So what was your job? Unboxing everything? Or driving the truck.
Why?
I’ve got greater stability and a smaller footprint.
It’s faster(higher performance) too.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^So what was your job? Unboxing everything? Or driving the truck.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Do you think for once you could skip the vitriol?
Your abysmal lack of reading comprehension does not constitute a lie on my part.
Just correcting the endless mistruths. Shadowman here said just the other day he had been using Linux "exclusively on his laptop for years" when the fact is he's got a Windows partition on there. Now he says he's "setup several supercomputers" when the fact is he just recently changed jobs. He's been posting BS like this for years, I remember the time he tried to argue with me that my own Blackberry ran on Linux instead of Java LOL. He's far from the only one posting bull like this either, his ping list buddy keeps going from thread to thread claiming Windows 2000 is "unsupported" when Microsoft is actually providing free automatic security patching for the O/S till 2010.
You may not care if a small group of posters goes from thread to thread spreading lies, but it does everyone a great disservice. Not to mention there are a lot of leftist kooks behind the free software "movement", looks like you're from China or something yourself. These are facts, got any yourself? Or are you reduced to personal attacks against me like they are?
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Having used FreeRepublic’s search function to review every thread GE has commented in during 2007, I can state the following with a degree of confidence.
Fact: GE always comments on threads relating to Linux, to criticize or belittle.
Fact: GE usually comments on threads relating to Windows, always to defend Windows OS as superior in every way, denying any negatives from unbiased sources regarding Windows security flaws or other deficiencies.
Fact: GE occasionally joins in to slam OS X, doesn’t necessarily slam OS X, but will frequently point out that OS X is not open source. Apparently, GE likes OS X, but not as much as Windows.
Pact: GE occasionally speaks well of proprietary Unix, admits occasionally to using various BSDs (that was a surprise to me). GE loves SCO, hates Groklaw and must be torn in two over IBM.
Fact: GE only rarely comments on non techie threads, and never with the same enthusiasm as the threads in which he slams Linux. GE’s greatest vitriol is reserved for Linux and Linux users.
BTW, which of the seven versions of Vista do you run on your notebook with only 512mb of RAM?
That is a lie. I do not have a Windows partition on my computer, nor did I ever have a Windows partition on this computer.
Yes you did, or still do, inside the virtual machine. Windows couldn't even exist without a "partition" for it to reside on. Obviously just more lies to try to cover the original ones you were using Linux "exclusively". Strange world you live in, thinking that kind of BS will fly LOL.
Hey that's pretty good, you might finally be someone who could bring some sanity to those guys that keep posting lie after lie about Linux. What would explain someone being so compelled to repeatedly post the most easily debunked BS over and over again? No doubt I don't care much for some of the leftist whackos behind free software like Richard Stallman, but at least he's honest, more than I can say for these jokers.
thats hi problem, he wants to fight so he will call any disagreement a ‘lie’
ummm you’re showing your lack of insight again. VM runs off a file not a partition by default (though It *can* be given a partition.
The only thing even close to partitions regarding partitions is *if* youre running esx.
that should read ‘the only thing close to partitions regarding vmware is *if* youre running esx.
He had a Windows partition inside the VM. He has now lied twice, at seperate times claiming he didn't have either on the machine. Why would someone be compelled to make such obviously false statements?
Many Linux users don’t care a think about using Linux because of the politics. It’s Microsoft they don’t like and Linux just gives them a free alternative. Some are ideologically driven, but many aren’t.
That "partition" is not a partition on my computer. It is a file. Again, I've never had a Windows partition on my computer.
Yes you did, inside the VM, much like inside a zip file. The lengths you're willing to go to lie about it are almost astounding, until I realize who I'm talking with.
Do you know the difference between a partition and a file?
So their hatred causes them to lie. That's what I thought, too.
No, I didn’t say that. What I said, or at least intended to say, was that they use Linux because they don’t like Microsoft.
I stopped using Windows because I grew tired of sloppy performance on good equipment (Dell desktops and Sony notebooks) and because I like to customize my system and use new software without it costing me (and without resorting to piracy).
My wife stopped using Windows because I bought her an Intel iMac (which she loves).
You're out of you depth on this one let it go.
twn,
youre wasting your breath with him, Myself, Shadow Ace, AR, and many others are not ideological.
I Work with Solaris and AIX (and help out the Linux team where I am), at home I have Two Apples an X86 Solaris box and a Linux box (I have a P5 workstation on the way). Yet because often I find Linux the best tool for a job and because I dont think OSS is evil incarnate he trolls every oss thread he finds.
Obviously better than you, especially in the context of virtual machines. The partition(s) reside inside the virtual machine file, much like an image backup or zip file would. Since you're apparently obvlivious to the most basic concepts regarding virtual machines, I suggest you study some of these links from vmware.com that describe "partitions inside" Virtual Machines.
Then you might have enough sense to come back and apologize for the lies. Doubt it though.
Here he is, hacker N3WBI3 who’s still spreading the lie Windows 2000 is quote “unsupported”, when you can still get automatic updates from Microsoft till 2010. What posseses someone to repeat a lie like that for over a year now we can only wonder.
Could you point me to a link for that?
Microsoft's website (which I just looked at), seems to be in disagreement with you. It says that support for Windows 2000 Server is only available as Extended Support phase (which you have to purchase).
I guess Microsoft's website might be mistaken, but I would like to see where you get that information.
Do you have a link?
He is referring to security hot fixes. That is the source of this supposed lie he prays to every night. I don’t think that a security hot fix only service counts as real support and he thinks if you disagree with him you’re a liar.
LOL check out this gem of his from a couple days ago:
“I did not say all support I said Unsupported.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1816151/posts?page=115#115
This goes back to him originally saying a year or two ago when he and shadowman created several threads claiming all “updates” to Windows 2000 had been ended. His famous line from back then was “a hotfix is not an update”, even though Microsoft’s site clearly showed “hotfixes” were in fact part of the “update” nomenclature. But of course he’s still to this day trying to spread it, along with other BS constantly.
Just completed a Solaris Admin course, we had a Linux guru in our class. He believed that eventually Sun's going to ditch Solaris for Linux. The instructor (Solaris and Linux certified) was skeptical - he said that Solaris had a smaller footprint and Sun had too much invested in it. Led to some good discussions.
I agree with the professor, Sun has been really boosting up solaris lately, in fact they are starting to opensource some of their technology.
LOL, profanity again. You are the scum of the scum, indeed.
So, Win2000 gets security fixes, but no more improvements to the OS. Gotcha.
Hve you looked at the American heritage dictionary?
Funny watching you claim you support Solaris now since you had to take a job working on it, when I told you back in your Red Hat days you needed to switch to Sun. Poetic justice at its finest.
I’m going to ask you once to stay off this thread. Your continued use of calling others liars, scum, and any other personal attacks will result in suspension. I suggest strongly that you knock it off now.
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