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Cyclist, motorists clash in Berkeley Critical Mass
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 5/12/7 | Henry K. Lee

Posted on 05/12/2007 3:21:50 PM PDT by SmithL

BERKELEY -- An angry confrontation erupted during Friday night's Critical Mass bike ride in Berkeley when cyclists accused a motorist of trying to run them over, a participant who videotaped part of the fracas said today.

The incident, similar to an altercation that occurred during a Critical Mass in San Francisco in March, occurred about 8 p.m. as dozens of cyclists rode through the intersection of The Alameda and Monterey Avenue, said bicycle activist Jason Meggs.

Tempers flared on both sides and the motorist's windshield was shattered and a wiper bent, but Berkeley police did not make any arrests, Meggs said.

Police officials were not immediately available for comment, and the identity of the driver was not known.

A man driving a Chevrolet van allegedly drove toward the cyclists, Meggs said, prompting the confrontation.

A video of the incident shot by Meggs shows a woman, identified as his wife, in the van -- which has disabled person license plates.

On the video, three bicycles are seen stuck beneath the right front tire of the vehicle and bicyclists trying to remove them.

"Everybody, back away!" one person is heard shouting. Cyclists are seen and heard pounding on the vehicle's hood and windows.

"What the f-? What's your f- problem?" one cyclist demands of the driver, who is inside the vehicle with the windows closed.

At one point, the man's wife opens her door. "How dare you be so violent?" someone is heard asking her. "Are you people drunk?"

The woman says something that can't be heard, prompting a man to ask her, "Guess who started it? Guess who did it?"

"You're on top of three bikes!" a bicyclist tells the driver, urging him to move.

...Meggs said police blamed the bicyclists for instigating the confrontation, a charge he denied.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: anarchy; beserkeley; criticalmass; gay; hypocriticalmasshole
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1 posted on 05/12/2007 3:21:56 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Oh yeah, “Critical Mass” in SF...

*cough* moonbattery *cough*


2 posted on 05/12/2007 3:24:27 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: SmithL

It’s Bushes Fault.


3 posted on 05/12/2007 3:25:56 PM PDT by Psycho_Runner (Honey, does this dress make my carbon offset look big?)
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To: SmithL

I can’t stand cyclists. If you can’t drive the speed limit, get the heck off the road.


4 posted on 05/12/2007 3:26:02 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: SmithL

I cant stand bicyclists. Until they start paying taxes for licenses and inspection stickers like car drivers have to do, then get OUT of the street and get your bike on the sidewalk.


5 posted on 05/12/2007 3:26:22 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: SmithL
I hope the San Francisco Police Department is appropriately ashamed of itself.
6 posted on 05/12/2007 3:28:55 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (<--- "Crazy Aunt" Conservative)
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To: SmithL

I have a sneaking suspicion that the driver of that van lived out a hidden fantasy of millions of drivers that day.

I think our road could be more accomodating of bikers. That said, it’s a major annoyance when they clog up traffic. My state has a law where a vehicile must pull off of the road if five or more vehicles are backed up behind it and it is impeding traffic.

A law, needless to say, that is never enforced.


7 posted on 05/12/2007 3:29:53 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: SmithL
"Hey! You got your van stuck on our bicycles!" "You got your bicycles stuck under my van..."

Where's an earthquake when you need it, to open up the earth and swallow up the moon bats.

8 posted on 05/12/2007 3:30:34 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: LongElegantLegs
SFPD has their own problems protecting those that assault Elis.

This happened in Bizerkley.

9 posted on 05/12/2007 3:34:30 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: SmithL

Never bring a bicycle to a van fight.


10 posted on 05/12/2007 3:38:19 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: SmithL
Solution =
11 posted on 05/12/2007 3:40:46 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: SmithL
The mini van driver ...

Go ahead, bike boy, make my day

12 posted on 05/12/2007 3:43:34 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: SmithL
...bicycle activist Jason Meggs.

How much you want to bet this guy is a faggot?

13 posted on 05/12/2007 3:45:33 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: CheyennePress

If you are not from No. California you may not be familiar with the Critical Mass idiots. These are not the typical self-centered, sanctimonious jerks on bikes one normally encounters. Critical Mass is a sort of loosely organized anarcho-econazi movement that has been around for years in The greater S.F. Bay area. They pick a time and place of heavy traffic and ride slowly along, taking up all lanes and preventing decent people from excercising their God-given right to move from one place to another. Thus causing traffic to steadily worsen. I still remember how angry I became when I got stuck behind a mob of them in Santa Cruz one evening about ten years ago. I went from zero to homicidal in about 30 seconds. Fortunately I was able to control my violent impulses, but I sure swore a blue streak at them. (That was before I became a Catholic.)


14 posted on 05/12/2007 3:47:36 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: SmithL
On the video, three bicycles are seen stuck beneath the right front tire of the vehicle and bicyclists trying to remove them

Maybe the driver thought he was in a Clint Eastwood movie

15 posted on 05/12/2007 3:50:09 PM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: SmithL

These cyclists ignore the traffic laws and drive en masse right through stop signs, red lights, etc. They dare the cops to stop them. The cops just pretend it doesn’t happen out there. A few weeks ago they terrorized a mother and her children in a minivan, breakng windows out and scaring the children horribly. These guys are thugs on bikes. In my state, they’d get shot for this kind of thing.


16 posted on 05/12/2007 3:50:20 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: nwrep
” How much you want to bet this guy is a faggot?”

Not all Berkley commies are gay. Many of the Berkeley types are hard core anarchist, commie, Earth First types.

They make the garden variety liberals look like Midwestern Republicans.

17 posted on 05/12/2007 3:50:24 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: mtbopfuyn
If you can’t drive the speed limit, get the heck off the road.

As of today in the State of Texas bicyclists have the same right to the road as a motor vehicle. In fact just last week the legislature in Austin passed a law requiring cars to give cyclists at least three feet clearance when passing.

However, if you feel strongly about this issue you can come to Austin and lobby the legislature to ban bikes from Texas roads. Until then, give me my three feet clearance and do not make fun of my bike shorts.

18 posted on 05/12/2007 3:50:52 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: SmithL

Boycott Berkeley


19 posted on 05/12/2007 3:50:57 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

You said it. These two-wheeled a$$holes try to prove a point about demanding respect from drivers by making left turns in busy intersections during rush hour, but God-forbid they actually stop at a stop sign.


20 posted on 05/12/2007 3:51:26 PM PDT by rickmichaels (God Bless America, Land That I Love)
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To: SmithL

What does “dozens of cyclists” mean? 36? 150? 500?

One of the leaders “said the cyclists had a green light when they entered the intersection, but he did not know if the light had changed before they’d all made it across the street.”

In other words, there were probably so many damned bikes that they expected traffic to sit there and wait through several green lights. I don’t object to bicyclists, but they have an obligation under the law to stop for red lights and let other traffic go through.

It used to drive me crazy when messenger bikes zipped through red lights in NYC during the rush hour and never even looked to see if cars were coming.


21 posted on 05/12/2007 3:51:43 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Thats right, Catholics can’t cuss. Unless they are drinking.


22 posted on 05/12/2007 3:52:09 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: SmithL
Jason Meggs

The poor queen is one giant victim on the road.... The Man just won't leave him alone!

23 posted on 05/12/2007 3:52:55 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: SmithL

I hate bicyclists. They need to decide if they are traffic or pedestrians and stick to it. However, they want the best of both worlds. They want to ride in the street, and then if there is a lot of traffic, red lights, stop signs, etc. they jump up on the sidewalk, etc.

I’d love to drive a van threw a whole swath of them if I could be certain I wouldn’t cause serious injury.


24 posted on 05/12/2007 3:55:14 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
A good choice.

This was my first thought


25 posted on 05/12/2007 3:55:20 PM PDT by yooling
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To: DesScorp
I am a cyclist but do not ride with Critical Mass or even believe in their cause. For the most part these CM riders do not wear helmets and do not obey traffic laws. However, you will find that road riders with with our helmets, jerseys, $300.00 shoes and $2,500.00 bicycles will almost always follow the rules of the road.

Its a big investment and a crash with a car or otherwise will not only cost tons of money but likely our life and limb.

26 posted on 05/12/2007 3:55:44 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

Do you wear one of those gay rubber bracelets?


27 posted on 05/12/2007 3:57:50 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: SmithL

Critical Mass does this routinely, frequently riding in violation of the laws of motoring and common manners. The intent of their rides is to take over the streets from automobiles. Provoking/creating/inventing an incident is part of their M.O. The fact that their ‘taper/spokesperson’ says the P.D. blamed them for this one is a good indication of whose fault it was.


28 posted on 05/12/2007 3:58:40 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: RGSpincich
OMG, is that Cheney on another one of his bloody hunting trips?


29 posted on 05/12/2007 4:00:32 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Rodney King

I wore a Yellow Bracelet that was given to me by Lance Armstrong one day when I ran into him at a bike shop here in Austin. I had never seen one before but within a week everyone in town had one so I took it off forever.


30 posted on 05/12/2007 4:00:55 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

As a pedestrian, I say keep your bikes off the sidewalks and on the streets!


31 posted on 05/12/2007 4:02:04 PM PDT by LiveBait
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Geez I get upset and think all sorts of nasty when I am behind a small herd, the size of 8, that are taking up the whole road and ignoring traffic laws......I have nothing to whine about because it could always be worse.
32 posted on 05/12/2007 4:03:47 PM PDT by Kimmers (Coram Deo)
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To: SmithL
I’m not particularly fond of Earth First activists, nor gay bicyclists or whatever, but some of the replies in this thread reek of fat cat upper crust republican hate mongers, which is really all the conservatives need at this point.
33 posted on 05/12/2007 4:04:25 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: trumandogz
I do not have ad issue with riders like you and am quite happy to share the road with you. I just get irritated with the riders that ignore laws and basic common courtesy.....stay safe
34 posted on 05/12/2007 4:06:30 PM PDT by Kimmers (Coram Deo)
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To: SteveMcKing

Poor old Jason just seems to have a running problem with vans.... http://www.ebbc.org/?q=node/377


35 posted on 05/12/2007 4:06:52 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: SmithL
... participant who videotaped part of the fracas said today.

That's all that I needed to read.

-PJ

36 posted on 05/12/2007 4:07:25 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

I can’t stand cars. Get your automobile off the sidewalk:’)


37 posted on 05/12/2007 4:08:24 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: trumandogz

OK, that’s fair.


38 posted on 05/12/2007 4:10:19 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Perhaps if they would have bothered to build a sidewalk in New Orleans over the last 40 years I would ride my bike while I am there on the sidewalk. However, in New Orleans the roads the do exist could destroy a Hummer within a week I hate to think what it would do to the tires on my road bike.

Moreover, the only people in the world that drive cars worse than people in New Orleans are the citizens of Calcutta.

But I must say that a dozen or so loops at the hike and bike train at Audabon Park is always refreshing.

39 posted on 05/12/2007 4:11:14 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: steve86
I’m not particularly fond of Earth First activists, nor gay bicyclists or whatever, but some of the replies in this thread reek of fat cat upper crust republican hate mongers, which is really all the conservatives need at this point.

First, I'm sure that bikers annoy non-homosexual blue collar dems more than they do upper crest republicans.

Second, who cares?

40 posted on 05/12/2007 4:11:48 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: SmithL

Critical Jack Asses.


41 posted on 05/12/2007 4:12:24 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Rodney King

Thanks, actually Lance is a great guy but is also a class A jerk.


42 posted on 05/12/2007 4:12:41 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Kimmers
It is the unwashed hippies here in Austin that give cyclists a bad name. I cuss them out when I am driving my car. But thanks for recognizing the difference between people like me that ride for fun and health and the asses that disobey every traffic law.

I also understand that if I crash while riding on a Texas Hill Country highway at 25 or 45 MPH that I am a dead man. Therefore I respect cars, trucks, beer cans, pebbles or what ever else may be on the road.

43 posted on 05/12/2007 4:17:31 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Political Junkie Too

Where is the video? I always have my camera handy...you never know what will happen.


44 posted on 05/12/2007 4:17:39 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: ArmstedFragg

That video of the disruptive bicyclists tells it all.

JERKS.


45 posted on 05/12/2007 4:18:19 PM PDT by bannie
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To: SmithL

Why do protestors think that pissing people off will win them over?


46 posted on 05/12/2007 4:19:42 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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To: ArmstedFragg

That was great. Someone should give the guy who drove that car a medal.


47 posted on 05/12/2007 4:20:51 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Kimmers

Agreed.

I have absolutely no problem with cyclists...

Well, until they dart out from around parked cars, then flip me off when I just barely manage to avoid them by swerving into the oncoming lane...

...decide to utilize the bicycle lane we taxpayers were charged for by riding directly on the white line, hanging halfway out into the traffic...

... ride two abreast in the bike lane, with one cyclist hanging out into traffic...

...never, ever use hand signals, relying on psychic powers to broadcast their intention to suddenly cut across 3 lanes of traffic...

...and get angry and thunk on your car if you can’t manage to get far enough away from them without causing a head-on collision in the oncoming lane.

Otherwise, they’re G2G with me.


48 posted on 05/12/2007 4:26:02 PM PDT by Shion (Hunter 2008! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: trumandogz
and do not make fun of my bike shorts.

Do you wear those tight gay looking bike shorts? No offense meant,... just wondering. ; )

49 posted on 05/12/2007 4:27:50 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: trumandogz; D Rider

You post the picture, and we’ll decide.
; )


50 posted on 05/12/2007 4:30:40 PM PDT by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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