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To Bee or Not To Be, that is the Question
Associated Content ^ | 05-12-07 | Ranger

Posted on 05/13/2007 8:21:37 AM PDT by mission9

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To: cripplecreek
Same here in Vermont. We have a fair population of wild bumble bees that seem to be keeping pretty beezy, if you get my drift.

We also have lots of birds.The birds and the bees ar OK.The world is not going to end anytime soon.

41 posted on 05/13/2007 9:42:25 AM PDT by Candor7
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To: mission9
OK, I confess!

I ATE all those bees.

Fried. With fava beans and a nice Chianti.

42 posted on 05/13/2007 9:44:09 AM PDT by LibKill ("RUDY GIULIANI" is just "HILLARY CLINTON" misspelled and wearing a dress.)
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To: mission9
Did anybody else find it ironic that, on this article's page, there was this ad:

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43 posted on 05/13/2007 10:02:37 AM PDT by Viking2002 (Fred Thompson in '08, baby!)
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To: mission9
Honey Bees are European... and we all know that all things european are retarded and suicidal... Let's exam prince charles and his british clowns subjects.

Let's exam the cowardice of france and spain... let's look at the lunatics in germany and the 8 foot tall mice of the netherlands. Consider the willing victims of the swedes and the fleeing moose humpers of norway.... The only thing good in western europe is that they have a few blond chicks left.

44 posted on 05/13/2007 10:26:27 AM PDT by Porterville (God is love and Dog is evol)
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To: Sawdring

When we lived in TX our back fence neighbor (rural area, we had a 2.5 acre lot, they had a much larger parcel) rented space out to an operation moving truckloads of bees. They set them near our back fence and for over a week my back yard was filled with bees to the point that you could not walk back there without them getting on you. I’m allergic to bees, so it was a pretty awful experience, since I could not use my back yard at all. In addition the darned bees came to MY koi pond and drank it down low enough that I had to add water every couple of days. A very miserable experience, I must say. Of course, I’m sure my neighbor made a nice tidy profit. I should have charged a bee watering fee....
susie


45 posted on 05/13/2007 11:55:59 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: sentis1
there has been some speculation that beekeepers who don’t use corn syrup have fewer loses.

Interesting, but this should be easy to confirm, shouldn't it?

susie

46 posted on 05/13/2007 12:01:43 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: mission9; Calpernia

'Bees Survive Mars trek on Inter-galactic Highway 19.5,' according to Richard Hoagland, shown displaying recent Hubble image.

47 posted on 05/13/2007 12:02:44 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: sinanju; Calpernia
>>heroin “agonist” naltrexone.
 
 
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Antagonists block
 
Agonists enhance.
 
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48 posted on 05/13/2007 12:27:23 PM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: mission9

So it’s just “hot house bees” that are affected, not wild honey bees? If so, maybe because apiarists seem to depend on just a few species for their breeding stock? Less diversity, more risk?


49 posted on 05/13/2007 12:30:14 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Calpernia
[Now, what happens when birds get this imidacloprid in their system?]

I haven't seen evidence to support any conclusion regarding avian effects.

It’s even possible that there could be positive effects - it could be effective in killing avian parasites.

The nervous system of insects makes them especially susceptible to the toxic effects of long-acting nicotinoids. I don't know if that's true for birds or not.

50 posted on 05/13/2007 12:39:31 PM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: VxH

[Now, what happens when birds get this imidacloprid in their system?]

I haven’t seen evidence to support any conclusion regarding avian effects.


This:

>>>>Treated honey bees also showed anomalous flying behaviour: they often fell in the grass and their
flight direction was not towards the hive. Treated bees
seemed to be disoriented, and that could be the cause of
their disappearance.<<<<

Made me think of the bird flu. I’m just wondering if birds have been misdiagnosed.


51 posted on 05/13/2007 12:43:28 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: sentis1

Yes sentis1, I read on an earlier thread here a few weeks ago where someone stated that imidacloprid caused the same problems in Europe a few years back and was banned for that reason, without the media taking much notice.


52 posted on 05/13/2007 1:47:51 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: RightWhale

And threw in the Ending of the Mayan calendar in 2012 for good measure.


53 posted on 05/13/2007 1:59:45 PM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: Eastbound

rolling on floor laugh out loud spasm


54 posted on 05/13/2007 2:04:57 PM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: sentis1
"1.GMO crops might be responsible.....Bees don’t pollinate corn but most beekeepers use corn syrup to feed their bees there has been some speculation that beekeepers who don’t use corn syrup have fewer loses. The natural pesticides in these crops may be causing the bees to become immune-deficient so when you read this or that fungus may be the cause please realize that those fungus have been around awhile and it is sort of like saying pneumonia killed an aids patient."

Re-read the article. If this were true, it would affect native bees and Africanized honeybees also. But they are NOT so affected. So try again.

55 posted on 05/13/2007 3:10:09 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: brytlea

Thats about the time you bring out the fogger.


56 posted on 05/13/2007 3:36:50 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Eastbound

Richard is on the job. /sarcasm

57 posted on 05/13/2007 3:42:11 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: mission9

I keep seeing these very large bees with two yellow bands on their rear body segment, flying like hummingbirds, with really long probiscus and reddish wings. Anyone know what these things are? Around here I’ve heard them called government bees... any ideas? I’ve wondered about them for years. There are lots of them around this year.


58 posted on 05/13/2007 4:39:49 PM PDT by LambSlave (If you have to ask permission, it's not a right.)
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To: bmwcyle

Richard says all we gotta do adjust the SWR’s on the bee’s antennas. I don’t know why I didn’t think of that. Sounds like a big 10/4 to me. ;>


59 posted on 05/13/2007 4:43:30 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Sawdring

Believe me, I was tempted! It was actually an even more problematic situation since I was also living there alone, in the process of selling the house so I could move across the country where my husband was already working. I was really worried that the realtor would bring someone to see the place while there were a gazillion bees swarming in the back!
I was amazed at how much those bees could drink per day, but then again, there was an entire truck full of hives. Someone (a beekeeper) said it was very irresponsible of the owners of the hives not to put out water for the bees, but I don’ tknow what the usual process is.
I wish I had had a video camera so I could have gotten video of them.
susie


60 posted on 05/13/2007 5:18:08 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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