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Animal experts: Stay calm around coyotes
The Examiner ^ | Jun 6, 2007 | Alexandria Rocha

Posted on 06/06/2007 5:40:36 PM PDT by george76

The handful of coyotes that call the Presidio home are still happy, healthy and wild for one main reason: They still fear humans. Experts hope that will be the case for the timid animals now living in Golden Gate Park and Bernal Heights.

There has been a flurry of coyote sightings in The City in the last few days, and officials are hoping to quickly educate the public before a rare opportunity turns sour. Experts say it’s possible for coyotes and humans to coexist, as the animals pose no threat to humans who leave them alone.

“It’s our job as inhabitants of this city — and it’s appropriate that our city is named after a patron saint of animals — to respect them,” ...

up to three coyotes have been spotted together at one time. The theory is that the animals came over the Golden Gate Bridge, which Raffa said has become somewhat of a wildlife corridor.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; coyote; coyotes; hunting; presidio; sanfrancisco; sss; wildlife
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1 posted on 06/06/2007 5:40:36 PM PDT by george76
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To: girlangler; Bonaparte; Grampa Dave; GladesGuru; fish hawk; Myrddin

2 posted on 06/06/2007 5:44:16 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
The theory is that the animals came over the Golden Gate Bridge, which Raffa said has become somewhat of a wildlife corridor

Which of course means the logical step is to close the brdige to humans because it endangers coyotes /s

3 posted on 06/06/2007 5:44:20 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (I remember when a pop-up blocker meant a cold shower.)
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To: george76

San Fransisco of Assisi?


4 posted on 06/06/2007 5:48:17 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: george76
the animals pose no threat to humans who leave them alone.

Can't say that about the Libs though./snic

5 posted on 06/06/2007 5:50:24 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: george76
Coyote Attacks, A list.
Tell these people about being calm.

Coyote Hunting Info. Good Hunting... from Varmint Al [img]http://www.varmintal.com/coyotel.gif[/img]

6 posted on 06/06/2007 5:51:44 PM PDT by Varmint Al
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To: george76
Coyotes are easily tamed.


7 posted on 06/06/2007 5:56:20 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily. Apply Sparingly.)
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To: Don Corleone
the animals pose no threat to humans who leave them alone.

That is why they still thrive. They stay away from people, so people leave them alone.

8 posted on 06/06/2007 5:57:26 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: george76
Animal experts: Stay calm around coyotes

...your shots will be more accurate.

9 posted on 06/06/2007 5:58:38 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("I AM A SEXY SHOELESS GOD OF WAR!!!" --http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0439.html)
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To: george76

If I see one on my land, I will shoot it on the spot.


10 posted on 06/06/2007 5:58:44 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Slings and Arrows
I agree with your sentiments. While in San Diego, it was common for my neighbors to lose pets to coyotes. Especially people with a backyard that borders on a canyon. The coyotes would breach the fence and take the pets right out of the yard.

Coyotes are "varmints" in Idaho. No limit. They are principally responsible for the loss of large game birds.

11 posted on 06/06/2007 6:10:20 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Always Right

So true. If one does approach you, odds are they are diseased.

I hear them all the time. There are a couple dens not far from my house. They keep their distance, unless my wolves are in season. Even then, the do not come close.

My wolves act as a detterent (sp?) for the neighborhood. They don’t come around here, close at least.


12 posted on 06/06/2007 6:13:12 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: Myrddin

And little puppies.

I am more concerned about the hawks when I let my little ones out.


13 posted on 06/06/2007 6:15:21 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: george76

That’s good advice.


14 posted on 06/06/2007 6:47:20 PM PDT by DieselHoplite
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To: george76

Coyote packs will attack children, the elderly, and the impaired.

As the Libroid would say, “They’re only street people”.

In dealing with coyotes, as all predators, staying calm is much easier, and vastly easier when one is armed.

Predators understand the 2nd Amendment - which more than many of our CongressCritters do.


15 posted on 06/06/2007 7:12:12 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: Shyla
My wife is a master falconer. She had to attend the same firearms safety classes labeled "hunter's safety" as people hunting with firearms. Her "weapon" of choice was a big, female Red Tail hawk when we lived in San Diego. Her hunting dog was a Jack Russell terrier. On any given afternoon she would bring home 3 or 4 rabbits. The dog would flush them and the hawk would nail them. The hawk was allowed an extra ration on the way home. The "excess" was food for the next few days.

She may return to that hobby when time permits. Caring for a hawk or falcon is a daily task of weighing, feeding and spending time with the bird. Just as intense as caring for a newborn infant, but they don't grow up. Caring for the bird is a perpetual responsibility until you train it to survive in the wild or pass it along to an apprentice. Her job as a police/fire/EMS dispatcher doesn't leave enough uncommitted time to lavish on a bird right now.

16 posted on 06/06/2007 7:37:30 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Coyotes are varmints in New Mexico too. No limit, no license, no problem.


17 posted on 06/06/2007 8:41:14 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("I AM A SEXY SHOELESS GOD OF WAR!!!" --http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0439.html)
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To: george76

If they don’t respect me I should have the right to defend myself with deadly force if necessary. I can kill a human in self defense, why not a wild animal?

I can’t even attempt to reason with a wild animal.

This whole f*&$kin’ society is going ass over teakettle. I pray every day for Christ’s return to finally make things right.


18 posted on 06/06/2007 9:04:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: Myrddin

Wow, I’m impressed. We have red tail hawks here in the valley, but I don’t know anyone who uses them to hunt. My grandsons other grandmother has red tails outside their house in San Diego. I can easily see how if your house is near a ravine you could lose pets to coyotes.


19 posted on 06/06/2007 9:57:58 PM PDT by gracie1 (Why can't I pay my visa with my mastercard?)
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To: george76

Yeah, well, they’re dragging down calves in my neck of the woods. Time to drag out the Johnny Stewart game caller and 7.62x39 rifle.


20 posted on 06/06/2007 10:03:12 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: gracie1
I watched my wife catch her first Red Tail. She made a box cage of 1/4" mesh wire and covered it with nooses made from nylon monofilament fishing line. The cage was fastened to a 5 lb weight with a short length of clothesline. She put a small rat into the cage. She then spotted her desired bird perched on top of a power pole near I-805/Sorrento Valley Blvd. She parked her pickup about 15 yards from the pole, opened the driver's side door and put the cage on the ground. She then drove about 50 yards further and waited. The bird swooped down on the cage to get the rat and got its talons captured in the nooses. My wife zipped over with a large blanket in hand and wrapped it around the bird. She had already constructed a 3'X 3' box with a perch inside for transport home.

Training took almost 3 months to get the bird to reliably come back to the fist. Most of that training was initially done inside our double garage.

I'm working down in my basement this evening. I just noticed that the cage I just described is on the floor between my desk and the unfinished wall.

21 posted on 06/06/2007 10:34:48 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

That is very impressive. Good for her.

use to have a nesting pair of red tails in my front yard, wayyyyyyy up in the tree. It was very difficult to se the nest.


22 posted on 06/07/2007 3:09:27 AM PDT by Shyla
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To: Always Right; Don Corleone; george76

Actually coyotes are becoming more acclimated to humans, and are moving into developed areas and causing lots of problems.

They are not native to states in the eastern U.S., but are very adaptable and their range has expanded all over the country (including one caught in Central Park a few years ago).

Near Nashville they have been chowing down on people’s pets, are being found in populated areas, and the state wildlife agency is receiving tons of calls about them. They are capable of attacking a human, although it is rare.

They are thriving alright, to the point of becoming a problem for other species in some areas. Like bears, once they lose their fear of humans there are conflicts that can result in serious problems, even death. They can decimate other native species populations if their numbers are not controlled. That is why hunting them here, there are no limits. Hunting is the most viable wildlife population control for animal species.


23 posted on 06/07/2007 9:48:12 AM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: LouAvul

Buck Gardner, famous for his duck calls, just introduced a new varmit call on the market. I hear it is great, and if Buck Gardner makes it, I’m sure it is.


24 posted on 06/07/2007 9:51:39 AM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: girlangler
The indoor range officer in San Diego was a transplant from Texas. His favorite way of dealing with coyotes was to spend some time nailing prairie dogs, then make a pile of prairie dog bodies as bait for the coyotes. Once the coyotes showed up, then were shot and the pelts sold in town. That provided money for more ammo and another afternoon reducing the coyote population.
25 posted on 06/07/2007 10:03:19 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: girlangler

Coyotes are also in Cape Cod ( Mass ) where they have attacked kids in a playground trying to drag the child off a swing set in front of the kid’s mother.


26 posted on 06/07/2007 11:44:04 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Myrddin; rellimpank; jazusamo; Issaquahking; eleni121; B4Ranch

Nice recyling project.

Using the pelts to buy more ammo.


27 posted on 06/07/2007 11:46:35 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
From article: "People can also bang pots and pans to scare the coyotes away, they said."


28 posted on 06/07/2007 11:52:04 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (I really don't know what I want to put here.)
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To: george76

NAW . . .

Didn’t you know coyotes are peaceful animals with feelings, they just want to be left alone so they can dance around and sing songs in the woods with the bears, deers and all the other animals (grin)?


29 posted on 06/07/2007 12:10:46 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: Myrddin

Good for him.

I have a friend who has hunted coyotes for decades. He uses a stuffed animal with one of those battery operated jumping balls inserted inside the stuffed animal — makes it jump around like an injured critter.

Then he uses distress calls to call them in.


30 posted on 06/07/2007 12:13:51 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: george76
My neighbor has some nice ones



31 posted on 06/07/2007 12:14:43 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: george76; All

The only good coyote is a dead coyote. I have seen a good many rabbits running around my house lately and I hope to see more of them.

Coyotes compete with me for rabbits, and I am higher on the food chain than a coyote.


32 posted on 06/07/2007 12:17:15 PM PDT by shag377 (De gustibus non disputandum est)
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To: george76
Nice recyling project. Using the pelts to buy more ammo.

That's got my vote of approval. In Eastern Oregon where I hunted for about 35 years and have relatives living there yet today, the living coyote's have a great respect for man. They realize when they lose that respect they will no longer be among the living.

33 posted on 06/07/2007 12:35:38 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: girlangler

We have lots of them in suburban Hartford. There is a pack of them in a large Christmas tree farm near my property. I hear them howl all the time.

About 6 years ago, I encountered a rabid coyote. I was bringing a load of trash down to the curb around 5:00 in the evening in the summer, and as I turned, a coyote, foaming at the mouth, walked about six feet in front of me. It was completely unaware that I was even there.


34 posted on 06/07/2007 12:35:42 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Myrddin; rellimpank; jazusamo; SierraWasp; eleni121; B4Ranch; gubamyster; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; ...

Coyotes? Thought you were talking about those scum sucking bottom feeders that smuggled illegals, not some American varmit!


35 posted on 06/08/2007 6:30:35 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Illegals kill more than al Quaida, thanks to the president,congress, and senate for ruining the USA!)
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To: Issaquahking

:<)


36 posted on 06/08/2007 6:46:55 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Issaquahking
Fergot ta ping ya to this thread about judicial puss via Clinton again!!!
37 posted on 06/08/2007 8:57:54 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: 1rudeboy

No... That’s San Fransicko of a sissy, rather than what you said!!!


38 posted on 06/08/2007 8:59:30 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: GladesGuru; Issaquahking; B4Ranch; dalereed; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester
"Predators understand the 2nd Amendment."

Now that's a good one! That goes for both the human and non-human, even GovernMental worlds, when you really think about it...

39 posted on 06/08/2007 9:04:08 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: george76; Myrddin; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Coyotes are also in Cape Cod ( Mass ) where they have attacked kids in a playground trying to drag the child off a swing set in front of the kid’s mother.

Frightening. NJ just had its first-ever coyote attack not long ago (as described in the link posted here: Coyote Attacks against Children and another shortly after the 1st: both against children between 3 and 8 I think.

The local grocer down the road here in rural PA has some pics of a coyote killed nearby by a hunter after it got to his felled deer before he did. I thought we left them behind in the canyon in San Diego, where we actually encountered one loner. Not far from where you mentioned, Myrddin - right at the top of Sorrento Valley Rd. I responded by yelling and throwing rocks when I saw it sizing up my then-3 yr old. It ran off immediately.

40 posted on 06/14/2007 2:45:19 PM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Varmint Al

Thanks for the link and info, VA :)


41 posted on 06/14/2007 2:46:03 PM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Picture this: but scrawnier. Same skulking/stalking posture, though:


42 posted on 06/14/2007 2:49:15 PM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: SierraWasp; 1rudeboy

Rudeboy was referring to the story of St. Francis (San Francisco) of Assisi, and the Wolf of Gubbio. Here’s one version of the story I found with a quick Google search:
http://www.vedanta-atlanta.org/stories/Francis.html


43 posted on 06/14/2007 3:17:56 PM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton
But what did the people of Gubbio feed to the wolf? St. Francis make it commit not to kill (eat) man, or any other animial in Gubbio, right?

Like you bike, your kittys, especially the one with the blazing eyes. Were you in the military when "stationed" in Germany?

44 posted on 06/14/2007 3:40:19 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not just "in contempt of CONgress," now I'm in contempt of all 3 branches of our governments!!!)
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To: GladesGuru
Coyote packs will attack children, the elderly, and the impaired.

Since leftists fall into the latter category, they should be afraid.

Very afraid.

45 posted on 06/14/2007 3:53:15 PM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: SierraWasp

I think the deal was that he wasn’t allowed to go around killing people’s chickens - but folks were free to toss him a drumstick here and there. ;-)

Yes, I was in the Air Force.

Heh...you made me click on my own profile page - I’d half forgotten what all is on there. Man, I need to update it! Still love bikes, though that particular one didn’t make it back to the states with me. Just got a semi road bike, and I’m loving it. Lots of nice little back roads here!


46 posted on 06/14/2007 4:21:33 PM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton

How do you ever get it to quit raining long enough to ride there? (grin)


47 posted on 06/14/2007 4:51:57 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not just "in contempt of CONgress," now I'm in contempt of all 3 branches of our governments!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Riding in the rain is refreshing! :-)

Actually, the big secret is that it really only rains in the winter and spring here, though then it's pretty much constant. Summer and fall, it's wonderfully clear and mild. But don't tell...there are too many people here already!

48 posted on 06/14/2007 5:58:17 PM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: eleni121
I used to see them all the time, hunting rabbits in my pasture. If hunting was slow, they eat horse droppings. I haven't heard them for awhile now. Someone, or something probably got them, it's a hard world for the little things.

I shot them too... with my camera. :~) They weren't hurting nobody.


49 posted on 06/14/2007 6:06:59 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: george76

Stay calm and steady when you sqeeze the trigger.......is what he should have said.


50 posted on 06/14/2007 6:08:24 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Gun exchange programs would work great if they gave you a gun when you handed in a criminal.)
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