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Scientists say 'Iceman' died from arrow
Associated Press ^ | 6/6/7 | FRANK JORDANS

Posted on 06/07/2007 10:57:15 AM PDT by presidio9

A prehistoric hunter known as Oetzi whose well-preserved body was found on a snow-covered mountain in the Alps died more than 5,000 years ago after being struck in the back by an arrow, scientists said in an article published Wednesday.

Researchers from Switzerland and Italy used newly developed medical scanners to examine the hunter's frozen corpse to determine that the arrow had torn a hole in an artery beneath his left collarbone, leading to a massive loss of blood.

That, in turn, caused Oetzi to go into shock and suffer a heart attack, according to the article published online in the Journal of Archaeological Science.

Even today, the chances of surviving such an injury long enough to receive hospital treatment are only 40 percent, according to the article.

Oetzi, also known as the Iceman, caused a sensation after his body was discovered by hikers in 1991 on a glacier 10,500 feet above sea level on the border between Austria and Italy.

The body has provided researchers with a wealth of information about the late Neolithic Age, or 3,300 to 3,100 B.C. Archaeologists believe Oetzi, who was carrying a bow, a quiver of arrows and a copper ax, may have been a hunter or warrior killed in a skirmish with a rival tribe.

The fact that the arrow's shaft was pulled out before his death may have worsened the injury, said Frank Ruehli of the University of Zurich, who carried out the research with scientists from Bolzano, Italy, where the iceman's body is preserved.

The findings confirm earlier suspicions that linked the arrowhead embedded in Oetzi's body with his death, and virtually rule out other theories that he had been the victim of a ritual sacrifice or had gotten caught in a storm.

The use of high-resolution computer tomography — normally used to diagnose living patients — allowed the researchers to create three-dimensional images of Oetzi without having to use surgical procedures that would have damaged the body.

"They've applied noninvasive techniques from medical imaging to a specific question and have confirmed that it was the arrow which killed Oetzi, without having to thaw him out," Dean Falk, professor of anthropology at Florida State University, said in a telephone interview.

"I think it's very illustrative of the importance of these new techniques to science," said Falk, who had previously studied the corpse but did not take part in the latest research.

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1 posted on 06/07/2007 10:57:17 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Iceman died from arrow in yesterday’s thread.


2 posted on 06/07/2007 10:59:02 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: presidio9

When arrows are outlawed, only outlaws will have arrows........


3 posted on 06/07/2007 10:59:46 AM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: presidio9

Well duh. I saw this in a documentary years ago...the media is just catching up.


4 posted on 06/07/2007 11:00:00 AM PDT by Slim Pickens
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To: presidio9

DANG! I didnt know Carl Rove was an archer.


5 posted on 06/07/2007 11:01:00 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: presidio9

Adam would have still been alive at this time.


6 posted on 06/07/2007 11:02:18 AM PDT by balch3
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To: presidio9

“A cave painting was found today, documenting the first paleolithic call to ban bows, and certain types of projectile heads, deemed ‘assault arrows’”


7 posted on 06/07/2007 11:02:30 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: presidio9

Any suspects?


9 posted on 06/07/2007 11:02:48 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Red Badger

“Oetzi, who was carrying a bow, a quiver of arrows and a copper ax, may have been a hunter or warrior killed in a skirmish with a rival tribe.”

I thought primitive man lived peacefully and in harmony with nature. I can’t believe he would be killed by a rival tribe. Such senseless violence.

I also don’t know why he had weapons to go hunting. Weren’t the cavemen vegan in some ways?????


10 posted on 06/07/2007 11:03:18 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: RightWhale
...died from arrow...

...Oetzi, who was carrying a bow, a quiver of arrows ...

I still say he's the original Darwin Award Winner, I just can't prove it.

11 posted on 06/07/2007 11:04:12 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my SUV with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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To: Wiseghy

Another cave painting found in Switzerland, apparantly depicts the work of an early pioneer in ARROW design. It is not known whether the “curved” Arrow design ever got off the drawing board, or cave wall......


12 posted on 06/07/2007 11:06:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: presidio9

Oh man, he was my favorite player growing up.

Go Spurs!

13 posted on 06/07/2007 11:06:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: K4Harty

see #12.....


14 posted on 06/07/2007 11:07:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: presidio9

Don’t go hunting with Dick Cheney.


15 posted on 06/07/2007 11:07:21 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: presidio9

Was CSI able to extract any DNA evidence or fingerprints from the arrow remains? Do they have a suspect yet? Have the democrats started calling for stricter Bow and Arrow Control laws? All pressing questions that the article failed to address.


16 posted on 06/07/2007 11:09:08 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I also don’t know why he had weapons to go hunting. Weren’t the cavemen vegan in some ways?????

Vegans?....Hunters & gatherers and stealers............

17 posted on 06/07/2007 11:10:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: presidio9


"Don't play with arrows, kids!"
18 posted on 06/07/2007 11:11:42 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (I'm Fred, White and Blue!)
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To: VRWCmember
It’s all about the epithelial, baby!
19 posted on 06/07/2007 11:12:48 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my SUV with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Do we know if his bow and arrow were properly registered and if he was subjected to sufficient background screening prior to his bow and arrow purchase?


20 posted on 06/07/2007 11:13:20 AM PDT by nhoward14
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To: nhoward14

I suggest a complete investigation of this matter.


21 posted on 06/07/2007 11:15:50 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Was there any islamists in the area at that time.


22 posted on 06/07/2007 11:15:53 AM PDT by TLEIBY308
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To: P-40

CSI stated, “We’re currently working to determine the caliber.”


23 posted on 06/07/2007 11:17:11 AM PDT by bannie
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To: Wiseghy
“A cave painting was found today, documenting the first paleolithic call to ban bows, and certain types of projectile heads, deemed ‘assault arrows’”

but fell short of calling for the much needed "high capacity quiver" ban. When the news was made public, spokespesron for the Stop HCQ, Ungr had this to say, "ungrrrr"

24 posted on 06/07/2007 11:18:11 AM PDT by NativeSon (off the Rez without a pass...)
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To: presidio9
This is brought to by global warming, it’ll be interesting to find out what else is buried under the ice. I hear that some Viking stuff is being found in Greenland.

Water vapor causes 36-90% of the greenhouse effect on earth (Wikipedia under greenhouse gas)

25 posted on 06/07/2007 11:28:37 AM PDT by lmailbvmbipfwedu
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To: presidio9

Poor Oetzi. Poor, poor Oetzi.


26 posted on 06/07/2007 11:29:42 AM PDT by Silly (http://www.paulklenk.us)
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To: presidio9

Don’t look at me, I wasn’t within a hundred miles of that man and I have an alibi.


27 posted on 06/07/2007 11:33:29 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: presidio9

I’d be looking for a family member with a badly damaged arrow in their quiver.


28 posted on 06/07/2007 11:37:08 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: presidio9

Sarah Brady just added this guy to the list of “teenagers” and “children” killed with firearms.


29 posted on 06/07/2007 11:39:27 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: presidio9

No, he was a victim of climate change (global warming/cooling) or was shot by one of Dick Cheney’s ancestors.


30 posted on 06/07/2007 11:41:34 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: presidio9

But... but... primitive people were, you know, so close to nature and everything and spent their time dancing and throwing flowers at one another as they celebrated the primitiveness of their lives. How could this happen??


31 posted on 06/07/2007 11:49:29 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: presidio9

Bush’s fault.


32 posted on 06/07/2007 12:12:28 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: P-40
Any suspects?

Stay tuned to Greta Van Susteren... they're going wall-to-wall on Fox & CNN with the "Who Killed Otzi?" story.

33 posted on 06/07/2007 12:13:52 PM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Marija Gumbatus(SP) would have been shocked that this happened during the peaceful mother goddess period.


34 posted on 06/07/2007 12:16:01 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: pabianice
Of course, Oetzi was a white male, so all the cliches about primitive man being in touch with nature are not applicable, as he was obviously a proto-racist, proto-sexist, proto-homophobic despoiler of the environment wannabe.
35 posted on 06/07/2007 12:18:02 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: presidio9

That’ll teach him to look before crossing.


36 posted on 06/07/2007 12:18:02 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Slim Pickens

Do you remember which documentary? I have quite a few of them on VHS and DVD and don’t recall seeing this,


37 posted on 06/07/2007 12:26:00 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: presidio9

Man. What a way to commit suicide. Rest in ice.


38 posted on 06/07/2007 12:29:37 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: dfwgator

39 posted on 06/07/2007 12:32:40 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: K4Harty
I still say he's the original Darwin Award Winner, I just can't prove it.

He was cleaning his bow when it went off.

40 posted on 06/07/2007 12:33:25 PM PDT by Nachoman (I can't help the way I think.)
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To: Nachoman
He was cleaning his bow when it went off.

That is funny on so many levels.... ROTFL

41 posted on 06/07/2007 12:34:38 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my SUV with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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To: presidio9
Click here
42 posted on 06/07/2007 12:36:41 PM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: presidio9

Here too, O.J. is still looking for the real killer.


43 posted on 06/07/2007 12:38:47 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: Tallguy
the "Who Killed Otzi?" story.

Didn't they say something about a caveman in a white Bronco? :)
44 posted on 06/07/2007 12:44:11 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: presidio9

The caveman was a lawyer who had went quail hunting with a long time friend who was highly placed in the free immigration caveman party.


45 posted on 06/07/2007 12:52:10 PM PDT by em2vn
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Didn't they say something about a caveman in a white Bronco? :)

Wasn't Oetzi found in the neolithic equivalent of the Joan-Benet prom dress? ... Hey, we gotta spice this thing up for Cable News!

46 posted on 06/07/2007 1:02:07 PM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: presidio9

He was also hidden from view for centuries, perhaps millennia, because he’d been buried under ice. The hikers found him because the thawing ice had rolled back enough to reveal him. More evidence that the earth cools and warms in cycles.


47 posted on 06/07/2007 1:06:48 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Red Badger
Re: When arrows are outlawed, only outlaws will have arrows........

Where is an outlaw archer... when you really, really need one?

48 posted on 06/07/2007 1:06:58 PM PDT by Bender2 (A 'Good Yankee' comes down to Texas, then goes back north. A 'Damn Yankee' stays... Damn it!)
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To: lilylangtree

Yes, strict border enforcement back then.


49 posted on 06/07/2007 1:16:12 PM PDT by Deguello
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To: Misterioso

Sorry, it’s been quite a while. The entire documentary was specifically about this ice man, though.


50 posted on 06/07/2007 1:25:12 PM PDT by Slim Pickens
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