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India Man Fails High School Exams 39 Times
AP ^ | 6/15/2007

Posted on 06/15/2007 4:31:22 PM PDT by moonman

India Man Fails High School Exams 39 Times

The Associated Press

JAIPUR, India - A 73-year-old man who failed his 10th grade high school exams for the 39th time vowed Friday to try again next year in the hopes that an education will improve his job and marriage prospects.

Shivcharan Jatav, a farmer from the desert state of Rajasthan in western India, had no formal education as a child. He has been trying to pass the exams since 1969, when an army recruiter told him it would improve his chances of being accepted into the military.

"Since then I have been trying to pass this examination, but without any success," Jatav said, days after receiving the bitter news that he had failed again.

Jatav passed only one subject , the ancient language of Sanskrit , and he said he scored just 103 out of a total of 600 in the examinations.

Even though he is too old to join the army he has kept at it, hoping to become a more eligible bachelor.

"I could not get married as the girls told my family members that I was not properly educated. It's my fate that deprived me of education and a married life," he said.

Still, he has no regrets. "I am a happy and contented person," said Jatav.

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1 posted on 06/15/2007 4:31:24 PM PDT by moonman
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To: moonman

The world needs ditch-diggers, too.


2 posted on 06/15/2007 4:32:32 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Bad spellers of the world untie!!)
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To: moonman

Dude, try STUDYING.


3 posted on 06/15/2007 4:32:59 PM PDT by Argus
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To: moonman

The test was prejudicial towards farmers.

He just needs a better Lawyer! /s


4 posted on 06/15/2007 4:35:02 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Hell, he should come to the U.S and attend public high school. He’d have a diploma in no time.


5 posted on 06/15/2007 4:35:20 PM PDT by Duck Fan
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To: moonman
He has been trying to pass the exams since 1969, when an army recruiter told him it would improve his chances of being accepted into the military.

Hopefully, he has changed that goal by now.

6 posted on 06/15/2007 4:35:41 PM PDT by SIDENET ("Baby steps to the elevator...")
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To: occamrzr06

They should just make the test easier, like NYFD did for blacks.


7 posted on 06/15/2007 4:35:57 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do Humanitarians eat?)
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To: moonman
Endeavor to persevere
8 posted on 06/15/2007 4:37:11 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: moonman
A 73-year-old man who failed his 10th grade high school exams for the 39th time vowed Friday to try again.

God love this man.

9 posted on 06/15/2007 4:37:19 PM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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To: Allan

LOL ping!


10 posted on 06/15/2007 4:37:58 PM PDT by ARridgerunner (Ron Paul)
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To: moonman

“”I could not get married as the girls told my family members that I was not properly educated. It’s my fate that deprived me of education and a married life,” he said”

An excellent form of birth control!


11 posted on 06/15/2007 4:41:39 PM PDT by monkeycard
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To: moonman


"If at first you don't succeed Mr. Kidd..."

"Try try again Mr. Wint."
12 posted on 06/15/2007 4:45:31 PM PDT by Live free or die
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To: moonman
Ya' know - I think I talked to this guy just last night when I called the Dell computer support line!!!
13 posted on 06/15/2007 4:47:39 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Why can’t we start solving the problem by breaking up Big Government?"- MortMan)
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To: moonman

Am I missing something or does someone think it’s a bad thing when really dumb, hopelessly stupid people do not marry and procreate? That can happen only if they are female and attractive.

While I admire the man’s perseverence and optimism, I must admit that I’m tinged with a bit of guilt thinking that the world might not necessarily be a better place if he found a woman who was “marrying up” and they had a dozen children equipped with similar intellectual potential.

The gene pool is a bit brighter because of stories like this.


14 posted on 06/15/2007 4:49:22 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: metmom; SunkenCiv; familyop; little jeremiah; Gengis Khan; CarrotAndStick

Perseverance ping


15 posted on 06/15/2007 4:50:03 PM PDT by indcons (Linda and Hugo Chavez - same goals, different methods)
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To: Inquisitive1

Bump


16 posted on 06/15/2007 4:50:47 PM PDT by indcons (Linda and Hugo Chavez - same goals, different methods)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The world needs ditch-diggers, too.

The world needs ditch-diggers Hillary voters, too.

17 posted on 06/15/2007 4:51:00 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The world needs ditch-diggers, too.

Michael Moore needs fans.

18 posted on 06/15/2007 4:51:55 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Duck Fan
Hell, he should come to the U.S and attend public high school. He’d have a diploma in no time.

True, jorge will make him a doctor of something, make him a general and then let him retire on SSI.

19 posted on 06/15/2007 4:53:02 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Bon mots

I would bet many of those braying on this thread have suffered or seen loved ones suffer societal stigmas.


20 posted on 06/15/2007 4:53:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: moonman
It's my fate that deprived me of education and a married life," he said.

Interesting that he thinks his "Fate" in life is determined by forces outside his control

21 posted on 06/15/2007 4:54:49 PM PDT by Popman (I removed my Bushbot brain chip after he didn't veto the McCain Feingold election anti freedom bill)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I agree with that.

It’s easier for some people to make thoughtless “jokes” instead of really considering this man’s life.


22 posted on 06/15/2007 5:00:48 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I would bet many of those braying on this thread have suffered or seen loved ones suffer societal stigmas.

I wouldn't exactly call it a stigma.

A tenth grade exam is generally taken and usually passed by the average 15 year old. This guy has tried to pass it for decades and is now almost dead of old age. He is clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed.

There are stupid people out there - as politically incorrect as that awful statement might be. He is probably one of them.

23 posted on 06/15/2007 5:01:02 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Bon mots

We know none else than the bare report. Could the gent be suffering from something like dyslexia?


24 posted on 06/15/2007 5:04:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: moonman

Jaipur has one of the best (old) gun collection i have ever seen


25 posted on 06/15/2007 5:06:43 PM PDT by camas
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
73-year-old man ... failed his 10th grade high school exams for the 39th time....?

If at first you don't succeed, try and try again. Then give up; don't be a damned fool about things. (Stolen from W C Fields)

26 posted on 06/15/2007 5:10:49 PM PDT by ol' hoghead (He is not here; for he is risen.)
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To: Popman
Interesting that he thinks his "Fate" in life is determined by forces outside his control

Springs from his religion, most likely. Hinduism essentially says your fate is set, and you can only hope to live it as best you can to have a better life in the future before you meet enlightenment...

Interesting that a religion is so synonymous with Socialism, eh?

27 posted on 06/15/2007 5:12:47 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Tagline: Kinda like a chorus line but without the legs)
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To: Doomonyou

“Endeavor to persevere”

you should win a prize, LOL


28 posted on 06/15/2007 5:16:49 PM PDT by daku ("Behold this creature that walks like a man. It wants ketchup on its hot dog.")
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To: indcons

He would probably get a diploma much more easily in the USA.


29 posted on 06/15/2007 5:17:31 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. [(cbt.)--has-been])
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
“Hinduism essentially says your fate is set, and you can only hope to live it as best you can to have a better life in the future before you meet enlightenment... “

Thats for the all suckers to buy. Hinduism has a way to weed out the “suckers” gene from the pool. Real Hindus dont believe fate is all preset.

.....good I told you ;)

32 posted on 06/15/2007 5:31:01 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: KJC1
The man is 73 years old, said he is "happy and contented", but wants an education so he can get married??

Hey, if ain't broke don't fix it.

33 posted on 06/15/2007 5:45:41 PM PDT by ARridgerunner (Ron Paul)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Bon mots
I wonder if the world would be a better place if we were actually allowed to select the good genes and make designer babies. And not allow the sick, diseased, intellectually challenged or defective ones to procreate. just like how Hitler envisioned? The world would have been such a beautiful place with only smart "nordic looking" people around us? No?

/sarc

The tragedy of this article is about a screwed-up Indian examination system, which is hardly a measure of an individuals ability or intelligence is seen as a means of natural selection. Many of India’s bests have failed school exams.

34 posted on 06/15/2007 5:50:54 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: familyop
"He would probably get a diploma much more easily in the USA."

"... he scored just 103 out of a total of 600 in the examinations"

That's 17% correct. There probably are some government schools in America where that would be a passing grade. Heck, some schools would pass him just for trying a few times.

35 posted on 06/15/2007 6:06:12 PM PDT by moonman
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To: Bon mots; moonman; occamrzr06; Duck Fan; RightthinkinAmerican; Popman; KJC1; familyop
Here's a section of the mathematics paper from India's 10th Grade (YEAR 2006):

SECTION - A

Question numbers 1 to 10 carry 3 marks each.

Q. 1. Solve the system of equations:
         bx/a – ay/b + a + b = 0 and bx – ay + 2ab = 0.

Or

The sum of the digits of a two-digit number is 12. The number obtained by interchanging the two digits exceeds the given number by 18. Find the number.

Q. 2. Given that :

Express P x Q ÷ R as a rational expression.

Q. 3. If (x + 2) (x - 3) is the HCF of the polynomials p(x) = (x2 + x - 2) (3x2 - 8x + c) and
         q(x) = (x2 + x - 12) (2x2 + x + b).
         Find the values of c and b.

Q. 4. Using the quadratic formula, solve the equation:
         A2b2x2 – (4b4 – 3a4)x – 12a2b2 = 0

Or

The sum of two natural numbers is 8. Determine the numbers if the sum of their reciprocals is 8/15.

Q. 5. The 5th term of an Arithmetic Progression (A.P.) is 26 and the 10th term is 51. Determine the 15th term of the A.P.

Q. 6. Find the sum of all the natural numbers less than 100 which are divisible by 6.

Q. 7. A household article is available for Rs. 970 cash or Rs. 210 cash down payment followed by three equal monthly instalments. If the rate of interest charged under the instalment plan is 16% per annum, find the amount of instalment.

Q. 8. A man borrows Rs. 25,200 from a finance company and has to repay it in two equal annual instalments. If the interest is charged at the rate of 10% per annum compounded annually, calculate the amount of instalment.

Q. 9. In Figure 1, Prove that AB2 + CD2 = BD2 + AC2.

Q. 10. In Figure 2, PT = 6 cm AR = 5 cm. Find the length of PA.

SECTION - B

Question numbers 11 to 20 carry 4 marks each.

Q. 11. Draw the graphs of the following equations:
3x - 4y + 6 = 0, 3x + y - 9 = 0
Also determine the co-ordinates of the vertices of the triangle formed by these lines and the x-axis.

Q. 12. The speed of a boat in still water is 11 kin/hr. It can go 12 km upstream and return downstream to the original point in 2 hours 45 minutes. Find the speed of the stream.

Q. 13. A solid is in the form of a right circular cylinder with hemispherical ends. The total height of the solid is 58 cm and the diameter of the cylinder is 28cm. Find the total surface area of the sold.

Q. 14. Prove that

Or

Evaluate without using Trigonometric tables:

Q. 15. Construct a triangle ABC in which BC = 7 cm, and median AD = 5 cm. Write the steps of construction also.

Q. 16. Show that the points A(6, 2), B(2, 1), C(1, 5) and D(5, 6) are the vertices of a square.

Or

Find the co-ordinates of the point equidistant from three given points A(5, 3), B(5, —5) and C(1, —5).

Q. 17. Find the value of p for which the points (- 5, 1), (1, p) and (4, - 2) are collinear.

Q. 18. The Arithmetic Mean of the following frequency distribution is 47. Determine the value of p.

Classes
0 -20
20 - 40
40 - 60
60 -80
80 - 100
Frequency
8
15
20
p
5

Q. 19. The following table shows the monthly expenditure of a company. Draw a pie-chart for the data.

Item Amount (in Rs.)
Wages
Materials
Taxation
Adm. Expenditure
Miscellaneous
4800
3200
2400
3000
1000

Q. 20. A card is drawn at random from a well- shuffled deck of playing cards. Find the probability that the card drawn is

  1. a card of spades or an ace
  2. a red king
  3. neither a king nor a queen
  4. either a king or a queen.

SECTION - C

Question numbers 21 to 25 carry 6 marks each.

Q. 21. Prove that in a right triangle, the square of the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares of the other two sides.

Making use of the above, prove the following:
In Fig. 3, ABCD is a Fig. 3 rhombus. Prove that 4AB2 = AC2 + BD2.

Q. 22. Prove that I a line touches a circle and from the point of contact a chord is drawn, the angles which this chord makes with the given line are equal respectively to the angles formed in the corresponding alternate segments.
Using the above, do the following:
AB is a diameter and AC is a chord of a circle such that . The tangent at C intersects AR produced in a point I Prove that BC = RD.

Q. 23. A bucket made up of a metal sheet is in the form of a frustum of a cone. Its depth is 24 cm and the diameters of the top and bottom are 30 cm and 10 cm respectively. Find the cost of milk which can completely fill the bucket at the rate of Rs. 20 per litre and the cost of the metal sheet used, if it costs Rs. 10 per 100 cm2.

Or

Water is flowing at the rate of 15 km per hour through a pipe of diameter 14 cm into a rectangular tank which is 50 m long and 44 m wide. Find the time in which the level of water in the tank will rise by 21 cm.

Q. 24. A man standing on the deck of a ship, which is 10 m above the water level, observes the angle of elevation of the top of a hill as 60° and the angle of depression of the base of the hill as 300. Calculate the distance of the hill from the ship and the height of the hill.

Or

From a window x metres high above the ground in a street, the angles of elevation and depression of the top and foot of the other house on the opposite side of the street are respectively. Show that the height of the opposite house is x

Q. 25. Mrs. Ruchi’s salary is Rs. 32,250 per month exclusive of HRA. She donates Rs. 12,000 to Prime Minister’s Relief Fund (100% exemption). She also donates Rs. 6,000 to a school and gets a relief of 50% on this donation. She contributes Rs. 5,000 per month towards her Provident Fund. She pays a quarterly premium of Rs. 2,500 towards her LIC policy and invests Rs. 25,000 in NSCs. If Rs. 2,700 is the tax deducted each month from her salary for 11 months, find the tax deducted from her salary in the last month of the year.

Use the following for calculating income tax:

  1. Savings: 100% exemption for savings upto Rs. 1,00,000
  2. Rate of Income tax for Ladies:
     
    Slab
    Income Tax
    1. Upto Rs. 1,35,000
    2. From Rs. 1,35,001 to Rs. 1,50,000
    3. From Rs. 1,50,001 to Rs. 2, 50,000
    4. Rs. 2, 50,001 and above
    No tax
    10% of the taxable income above Rs. 1,35,000
    Rs. 1,500 + 20% of the income exceeding Rs. 1,50,000
    Rs. 21,5000 + 30% of the amount exceeding Rs. 2,50,000
  3. Education cess: 2% of the income tax

 

More:

http://www.cbseguess.com/papers/question_papers/x/2006/2006_all_subjects.php

36 posted on 06/15/2007 6:37:58 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

You remind me of the bad old day.


37 posted on 06/15/2007 7:28:52 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: CarrotAndStick
I lived in India till I finished my B.S. degree and came to the USA for my Master’s. No public school educated student in the 10 or the 12th grade wold pass the exam you cited an example from. The grade 12th exam in India would stump all but the best college sophomores.

It is not until Senior year of college that the US education system catches up, graduate school here is by far the best in the world and a primary reason for scientific excellence here.

The socialist public education system in the USA is a disgrace for a world leader and any Asian / European nation is way ahead.

I say this is a proud, passionate and staunchly pro-American US citizen but facts are facts.

38 posted on 06/15/2007 7:37:57 PM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Give me 38 years and 39 attempts, and I could ace that test.


39 posted on 06/15/2007 7:38:37 PM PDT by BykrBayb (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub ~ Þ)
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To: moonman

I’ll still bet that he is smarter and has more common sense than the average DeomKrat.


40 posted on 06/15/2007 7:38:51 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: CarrotAndStick

Yeah ... this guy must be dumber than a rock if he couldn’t answer those questions! hahaha


41 posted on 06/15/2007 8:26:50 PM PDT by moonman
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To: CarrotAndStick

Ha, and love it.

Some of the comments here bummed me out. Most of them are bigger “idiots” than this man who they judged. What’s worse is when people think they have a superior right to procreate. Hell, if stupid people weren’t allowed to reproduce MOST of wouldn’t be here when you really think about it.

Great post. :)


42 posted on 06/15/2007 8:32:11 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Passing similarity to partisans of hyper-Calvinism who deny that men choose while at the same time they are very busy making choices.


43 posted on 06/15/2007 9:28:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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Unfortunately, on the way to his 40th attempt, he died when the bus in which he was riding went off the cliff.


44 posted on 06/15/2007 11:04:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 15, 2007.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

It’s pretty tough for 10th grade, but my kids are doing that in their school. I finished an engineering program, so it’s not that bad - even though I’m a bit rusty.

Question 10 has an error. I used to hate when there were errors in tests like that! Not only did I find errors, but subsequently wasted a lot of time trying to get it right anyway.

In this case it’s simple, they meant “B” instead of “R” - but also, you don’t know where the line segment PT actually is intended to end, since it’s not annotated. Is PT the entire line segment, or is it the point from P to where the line touches the circle?

Since the previous question (#9) was about two instances of the Pythagorean Theorem, I would assume that they are trying to get a Pythagorean solution for this question too, but as I am unfamiliar with the course material for 10th grade India and there is not enough clear information, I would probably get this one wrong if it is not in fact trying to simply get students to use the Pythagorean Theorem.

...but didn’t this guy have like 60 years to prepare?


45 posted on 06/16/2007 2:09:19 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: moonman

He is happy and has nothing else needing his attention so why not. Maybe #40 will get him his diploma and then he can find a nice 20 year old wife and join the army, which seems like an unhappy combination, but he thinks that will make him happy. He is already happy and needs to talk to a guru of some kind.


46 posted on 06/16/2007 2:14:39 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Bon mots

Yes, mistakes like that would be very frustrating, but that paper was not from the official board’s website. I just swiped it off a place that was distributing old papers to practise, and I guess they might have scanned the original paper erroneously.

‘T’ appears to be the tangent in that figure. Again, it looks like a bad scan/ or someone re-drew the figure for the website by eyeballing.

For the 9th question, with all the right angles being indicated therein, using the Pythagorean Theorem would be the right way to proceed.

As for the 30 years, well words fail me. Maybe he was a really bored farmer, and taking exams was his pastime.

:^)


47 posted on 06/16/2007 9:33:20 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Bon mots

Oops, I meant 60 years, in the last line!


48 posted on 06/16/2007 9:39:45 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: RightthinkinAmerican
They should just make the test easier, like NYFD did for blacks.

And what Virginia Beach, VA., did for blacks because they kept failing
the math tests. Incredible..

49 posted on 06/16/2007 9:42:27 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: moonman
He has been trying to pass the exams since 1969, when an army recruiter told him it would improve his chances of being accepted into the military.

In 1969 he was 35 years old.

While some men of that age are in great shape and ready for anything, military service is a young man's game.

I suspect the army recruiter was giving him a polite brush-off and he unfortunately took it to heart.

I hope he truly is happy with his life and I wish him well.

Everyone has to have a hobby, I guess the exam is his.

50 posted on 06/16/2007 9:46:31 PM PDT by LibKill ("RUDY GIULIANI" is just "HILLARY CLINTON" misspelled and wearing a dress.)
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