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Texas Crowd Kills Man After Car Hits Kid
Breitbart.com ^ | June 20, 2007 | AP

Posted on 06/20/2007 9:21:08 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy

A crowd attacked and killed a passenger in a vehicle that had struck and injured a child, police said Wednesday.

Police believe 2,000 to 3,000 people were in the area for a Juneteenth celebration when the attack occurred Tuesday night. The man who was killed had been trying to stop the group from attacking the vehicle's driver when the crowd turned on him, authorities said.

The Austin Police Department identified the victim as David Rivas Morales, 40. The child was taken to a hospital with non-life threatening injuries.

Police spokeswoman Toni Chovonetz said she had no further information, including how many people were involved.

The driver was able to get away is cooperating with investigators, police said.

Juneteenth marks the day Gen. Gordon Granger arrived in Galveston in 1865 to share news of the Emancipation Proclamation, which freed slaves two years earlier on Jan. 1, 1863.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: austin; blackpride; juneteenth; lynching; racism; riot; vigilantism
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There is no mention in the article of the races of the attacking crowd or the passenger that was killed. It is, therefore, safe to assume that the crowd was mostly black and the victim was white.

If the crowd were white and the victim black, not only would their races be prominently featured in the article (and in news reports in all of the national media), but Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would already be in town organizing national protests.

1 posted on 06/20/2007 9:21:11 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Bubba_Leroy

“Juneteenth”

Sheesh.


2 posted on 06/20/2007 9:23:19 AM PDT by RabidBartender (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kerMm0HG1mk)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

“identified the victim as David Rivas Morales, 40”

Just a guess here but I’d say just mexicans doing the work Americans won’t do.


3 posted on 06/20/2007 9:23:43 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Victim's name is "David Rivas Morales".

I'm not sure how "white" he is, but odds are he's not particularly "black".

4 posted on 06/20/2007 9:23:46 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Got to believe some alcohol was involved here.


5 posted on 06/20/2007 9:24:44 AM PDT by Ace's Dad ("I think I'd better do the actual stealing.")
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Killed the passenger, driver got away and the child had non-life-threatening injuries.

This might possibly be a case of over-reaction.

6 posted on 06/20/2007 9:24:48 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

I believe Juneteenth is another black holiday. So put 2 and 2 together.


7 posted on 06/20/2007 9:24:59 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Why didn't anyone remind me that yesterday was Juneteenth?

I had planned to bake a nice Juneteenth cake and everything. Damn.

8 posted on 06/20/2007 9:25:36 AM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

http://www.aaregistry.com/african_american_history/240/JunteenthNational_Freedom_Day_observed

Juneteenth is a “African-American” holiday. (I’d never heard of it, had to look it up)


9 posted on 06/20/2007 9:25:36 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Bubba_Leroy
2000 to 3,000 people were in the area for a Juneteenth celebration...

Being from Texas I am sure you know that Juneteenth is celebrated exclusively by the black population.

10 posted on 06/20/2007 9:27:44 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

That is very hard core for Austin.

Perhaps, Detroit, Boston, LA or New Orleans but not Austin.


11 posted on 06/20/2007 9:27:46 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Sounds like jungle-injustice to me. F-ing thugs! It’s a shame that nobody will ever be charged (mark my words).


12 posted on 06/20/2007 9:27:56 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Amnesty….NO MEANS NO!)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Austin’s a zoo. Obviously the animals were restless.

Strange how underwraps this story appears to be.


13 posted on 06/20/2007 9:28:40 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: RacerF150
It’s a shame that nobody will ever be charged (mark my words).

They'll probably charge the dead guy.

14 posted on 06/20/2007 9:29:03 AM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: ConservaTexan
Juneteenth is celebrated exclusively by the black population.

I am white, live in Texas and have been to Juneteenth celebrations.

15 posted on 06/20/2007 9:29:13 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Hopefully someone with a cell phone camera and a conscience recorded the murder, and will turn it over to police.


16 posted on 06/20/2007 9:29:28 AM PDT by redstates4ever
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To: SittinYonder

Ya think??!! Maybe people dislike Mexicans a little too much sometimes.


17 posted on 06/20/2007 9:29:31 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: dawn53
..Juneteenth is a “African-American” holiday...

Look for this to become a Federal holiday at some point.

18 posted on 06/20/2007 9:29:44 AM PDT by FReepaholic (If Cho had a nuclear weapon instead of guns, would he have used it?)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

One could assume black Juneteenth celebrants beat Mexican descended (either legal or not) man to death in Austin for trying to get them not to kill a man whose car injured a kid...not too seriously either.

I would bet the driver was not black either.

This is like third world stuff. When I lived third, one did not stop the car for any accident. It could be a one way ticket just because of stuff like this.

This is more of what America is going to become down the road almost inevitably.


19 posted on 06/20/2007 9:29:47 AM PDT by wardaddy (on supervised release...btw....I know Trent Lott and he sucks......)
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To: trumandogz

Token?


20 posted on 06/20/2007 9:30:05 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Animals.


21 posted on 06/20/2007 9:30:15 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: DuncanWaring

I think blacks “dislike” Mexicans even more than they “dislike” whites.

Notice I didn’t say hate.
Only WHITE people hate.


22 posted on 06/20/2007 9:30:35 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (A proud warrior of the Pajamahadeen)
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To: SIDENET

The passenger disrespected the crowd so he had to die


23 posted on 06/20/2007 9:31:04 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: trumandogz
That is very hard core for Austin.

I presume you have never been to East Austin?

24 posted on 06/20/2007 9:31:32 AM PDT by WesternPacific
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To: wardaddy

In which 3rd-world country did you live?


25 posted on 06/20/2007 9:31:58 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: trumandogz

Some of my (white) friends go to Juneteenth in Milwaukee. They tell me they get stared at a lot, but it’s worth it for the ribs and corn.


26 posted on 06/20/2007 9:32:13 AM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: ConservaTexan

No, in the past I have gone to Junetenth celebrations in Austin however, no one was killed.


27 posted on 06/20/2007 9:32:14 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: SIDENET
I had planned to bake a nice Juneteenth cake and everything. Damn.

Just freeze it and save it for Kwanza.

28 posted on 06/20/2007 9:32:24 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

The last line of the article gives you the hint on the crowd’s ethnicity. The passenger’s name hints as to the ethnicity of the occupants of the vehicle. Whites aren’t the only group people of that ethnicity (the crowd) have enmity with. Articles with this sort of omission are more of a case of not bringing up inconvenient statistics or reminders of statistics that might affect the perception of certain hyphenated Americans.

(wow, is it hard to write without mentioning specifics).


29 posted on 06/20/2007 9:32:36 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Muzzle_em

Mexicans dislike “pretos” very much usually....which is why I surprised at Kobe’s hot Mex-wife he cheated on.

$$$$$ can cure old prejudices I reckon

in all fairness, Juneteenth is a legitimate day for blacks to recognize I guess...better than Kwanza.

Atlanta has had this for a while but it also has the same problems...with crime, shooting and wilding etc.

Isn’t Juneteenth sorta what used to be Jubilee?


30 posted on 06/20/2007 9:33:17 AM PDT by wardaddy (on supervised release...btw....I know Trent Lott and he sucks......)
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To: FReepaholic

I beleive Texas is the only state in that this is a paid holiday.


31 posted on 06/20/2007 9:33:54 AM PDT by texas_mrs (It's an invasion, not immigration)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

>>killed<<

Very neutral-sounding choice of words, isn’t it? I guess that “lynched” or “murdered” would have been too inciting. And it leaves the actual details regarding the manner of death completely unclear. Was the victim hanged, burned alive, shot, or killed by lethal injection?


32 posted on 06/20/2007 9:34:09 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: Muzzle_em
I think blacks “dislike” Mexicans even more than they “dislike” whites. Notice I didn’t say hate. Only WHITE people hate.

You can "PC it up" far more than that. It should be:

"The African-American community has a long-standing cultural mistrust of Latinos."

How'd I do? I should be a journalist.

33 posted on 06/20/2007 9:34:24 AM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: July 4th

I can see that but down here a BBQ joint carries less risk with it.


34 posted on 06/20/2007 9:35:45 AM PDT by wardaddy (on supervised release...btw....I know Trent Lott and he sucks......)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

“Juneteenth”? And all this time I thought it was called “Juneteenf”!


35 posted on 06/20/2007 9:35:45 AM PDT by Sicon
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To: WesternPacific
I presume you have never been to East Austin?

I live in South Austin and go to East Austin almost every day. the reality of East Austin is that it has gentrified and two bedroom tear down houses are selling for a quarter of a million dollars.

You are more likely to see a Yuppie in a BMW than see a urban blight.

36 posted on 06/20/2007 9:35:59 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Sicon

Hehehe...


37 posted on 06/20/2007 9:36:32 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: trumandogz
I made the mistake of going to a public park on June 19, 2004 and was surrounded (by the revelers) and 'asked' to leave. I don't remember you standing up for my right to stay, but maybe I missed that.
38 posted on 06/20/2007 9:36:49 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Ace's Dad
"Got to believe some alcohol was involved here."

3000 strong drunk mob in a black nieghborhood on a hot day, celebrating a local hero?

39 posted on 06/20/2007 9:37:34 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Renfield

Sierra Leone, Brasil, Colombia, Haiti, Jamaica....and a lot of travel to dozens more.....Nicaragua, Guatemala, Burma, Zambia etc.

longest stretches .....Colombia and Haiti

I’m 7th generation Mississippian which is rather similar btw....at least in Jackson. The rural folk while quite poor are much less hostile.


40 posted on 06/20/2007 9:38:47 AM PDT by wardaddy (on supervised release...btw....I know Trent Lott and he sucks......)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

This was a racial murder, along the lines of Crown Heights.


41 posted on 06/20/2007 9:38:51 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Bubba_Leroy

i wonder if this relates to the black teen killed by APD last month...the local black community was already twitchy


42 posted on 06/20/2007 9:39:54 AM PDT by snarkybob
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To: ConservaTexan

They let me be. The food was great as was the music. People gave me no problem at all.


43 posted on 06/20/2007 9:41:07 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: texas_mrs

Historically, Juneteenth was a Texas thing only. However, since the 1970s it has spread a bit to areas with very large black populations.

For a matter of perspective, I think celebrating the news that blacks were freed from slavery is as good a reason as any to have a holiday.

That said, I am a little surprised this happened in Austin. When I started reading I just assumed it was Houston or Dallas. Then again, the east side can be rough at times.


44 posted on 06/20/2007 9:41:19 AM PDT by Comstock1 (If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle.)
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To: montag813
This was a racial murder, along the lines of Crown Heights.

What are the odds this will be charged as a hate crime?

45 posted on 06/20/2007 9:42:15 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
According to witnesses several black males assaulted Morales when he stepped out of the vehicle to try and stop the crowd from assaulting the driver. It is believed there were 2,000 to 3,000 people who were in the area when the driver and Morales were attacked.

Austin Police Blotter

46 posted on 06/20/2007 9:42:49 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: FReepaholic

No. More likely El Cinco De Mayo will be the next holiday.
Don’t know who the driver was, but by the name of the passenger my guess is he was a Mexican.

I guess a lot of people are getting riled up about illegal aliens killing Americans with their cars.

And no - despite my tag name “ZULU” I’m white.


47 posted on 06/20/2007 9:43:12 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: snarkybob

There have been a few cop on black and brown cop shootings in Austin over the last few years. For the last one a black male was shot in the back as he ran from police.


48 posted on 06/20/2007 9:43:29 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Bubba_Leroy

If this had been a white mob attacking a black or Hispanic person, the race angle would be played up and Jesse Jackson would be winging his way to Austin. But let’s move on, nothing to see here . . .


49 posted on 06/20/2007 9:43:39 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Bubba_Leroy
My first black friend was from Mississippi and we were stationed at Fort Hood.

I asked him what he was going to do for June Teen-th?

He replied “What is June Teen-th?”.

I told him the Emancipation Proclamation and asked him “ Didn't they tell you’ll in Mississippi?”.

I did not know it was a Texas date.

50 posted on 06/20/2007 9:44:30 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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