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Man killed after child was hit by car (beaten to death by several men)
The Statesman ^

Posted on 06/20/2007 1:54:44 PM PDT by traumer

Vehicle's passenger was beaten to death by several men, police say. AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

A group of men fatally beat a passenger in a car that police said accidentally struck a child outside an East Austin apartment complex, police said today.

As many as 3,000 people were in the area following a Juneteenth celebration at the time, officials said. Austin police Cmdr. Harold Piatt estimated that dozens were in the parking lot of the Booker T. Washington apartment complex at the time and that preliminary information shows no witnesses apparently tried to prevent or stop the attack.

"At this point, we aren't aware that any person did anything to stop the assault or prevent the injuries," he said.

Piatt said investigators are still trying to question people who might have seen the attack.

Police said officers responded to a "person down" call at 9:30 p.m. and that when they arrived, they found David Rivas Morales, 40, with trauma to his body. He was taken to Brackenridge Hospital and pronounced dead.

Investigators said the assault apparently occurred after the driver of the car struck a child in a parking lot at 900 Thompson St. The child, a 3-year-old boy, was treated for injuries that were not life-threatening.

Witnesses told investigators that a group of men assaulted Morales when he stepped out of the car to try to stop the crowd from assaulting the driver, who had gotten out of the car. Piatt said it was unclear if the driver was aware he'd struck the child.

The driver, whose name has not been released, was able to leave the area in the car. Police later found him and the car.

"This is an anomaly for Austin, Piatt said. "When you have someone just beaten to death in a parking lot."

Morales' sister, Margaret Morales, who lives in an apartment complex where the incident happened, said her brother was riding home with a man she knew only as "Victor" from a painting job. She said a child came to her door shortly after the incident and told her what happened.

Morales said that when she showed up at the scene, she found her brother bleeding from the head.

"He was a loving, caring man," Margaret Morales said as she fought back tears while standing on her porch. "I don't know why anyone would want to do this; I can't imagine him gone out of our lives forever."

Anyone with information is asked to call CrimeStoppers at 477-3588.

"We know we had a number of folks who saw something," Piatt said. "Hopefully there are some good Samaritans who are as upset about we are about what happened."

tplohetski@statesman.com; 445-3605


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KEYWORDS: juneteenth; lynching; murder; racialdivision; riot
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1 posted on 06/20/2007 1:54:46 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

Hate crime?


2 posted on 06/20/2007 1:55:37 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: 2harddrive

Reparations?


3 posted on 06/20/2007 1:58:13 PM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: 2harddrive

East Austin is mostly black and/or hispanic neighborhood....


4 posted on 06/20/2007 1:58:14 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

“Morales’ sister, Margaret Morales, who lives in an apartment complex where the incident happened...”

Sounds like the reporter is trying to get her killed too.


5 posted on 06/20/2007 1:59:13 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: 2harddrive

Latin guy hits child with his car at the Booker T. Washington complex on Juneteenth (a celebration of the emancipation of slaves in Texas); latin guy is killed by the crowd. Why would you think there is a racial angle to this story? The reporter didn’t mention it.


6 posted on 06/20/2007 2:01:35 PM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Brilliant

Imagine if this had been a white crowd that had done this to a minority.
The evening news would have a post set up in that town tonight! katie would be reporting from there.


7 posted on 06/20/2007 2:01:48 PM PDT by roostercogburn
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To: traumer

Hate Crime, but MSM won’t call it that...see if the perpetrators had been white.. oh boy Hate crime? you betcha!


8 posted on 06/20/2007 2:02:50 PM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: traumer
“At this point, we aren’t aware that any person did anything to stop the assault or prevent the injuries”

This is what passes for civilized behavior in many parts of America today.

9 posted on 06/20/2007 2:04:06 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: traumer

And where was the parent/parents of this child?

And why was this child not in bed for the night?


10 posted on 06/20/2007 2:04:52 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: traumer

Something like this could touch off a race war between blacks and Hispanics, especially with a contentious amnesty bill before the Senate.


11 posted on 06/20/2007 2:05:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: traumer

Again


12 posted on 06/20/2007 2:05:11 PM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: Greg F

I suspect there will be some spin to the story... It’s quite ugly though


13 posted on 06/20/2007 2:06:50 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer; All

For a little background: Austin has had a series of black and Hispanic shootings by the APD officers. (a Federal investigation is in progress) Tensions are very high and this situation is not surprising.


14 posted on 06/20/2007 2:07:36 PM PDT by wolfcreek (AMNESTY: See what BROWN can do for you..)
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To: traumer
no witnesses apparently tried to prevent or stop the attack.

How are witnesses supposed to prevent attacks?

Journalists really need to learn how to write.

15 posted on 06/20/2007 2:08:38 PM PDT by Silly (http://www.paulklenk.us)
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To: roostercogburn

Is it getting national attention already? I thought it would be hushed...


16 posted on 06/20/2007 2:08:52 PM PDT by traumer
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To: roostercogburn

The child wasn’t even that greatly injured, from what the article tells us.

It was purely about their egos - not any sort of vigilante justice. They don’t even deserve credit for that.


17 posted on 06/20/2007 2:09:10 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: traumer
VIDEO


18 posted on 06/20/2007 2:09:27 PM PDT by restornu (Romney keeps his eyes on the mission, and not on those who attacks his campaigned!)
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To: traumer

Texas mob kills passenger after vehicle hits child

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN2036330820070620


19 posted on 06/20/2007 2:10:41 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer
Man killed after child was hit by car (beaten to death by several men)

Upon reading that headline, my first thought was, "What country was this in?" Then, "Harlem?"

All it took was to see "Juneteenth" to know I'd nailed it.

Some people are too predictable.

20 posted on 06/20/2007 2:10:50 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There has been a slowly simmering race war between those two races in Southern California since the sixties.


21 posted on 06/20/2007 2:11:01 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: roostercogburn
Imagine if this had been a white crowd that had done this to a minority.

It would dominate the news for weeks; the "national examination" (spearheaded by the guilt-ridden, self-despising leftist media) would be nauseating.

22 posted on 06/20/2007 2:12:01 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: 2harddrive

I hate crime too, but this is kinda funny. Excepting for the obvious.


23 posted on 06/20/2007 2:14:36 PM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: Greg F

Juneteenth is observerd all over the south not just Texas. A big reunion time. Juneteenth? I don’t know why but may be they just can’t recall the exact date.


24 posted on 06/20/2007 2:15:10 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: traumer

Two possibilities: either the driver was extremely grossly negligent to the point it pissed off everyone who saw it, or this was a black neighborhood and the victim was white.


25 posted on 06/20/2007 2:17:17 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Romans 10:9)
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To: traumer
“At this point, we aren’t aware that any person did anything to stop the assault or prevent the injuries,” he said.

Actually the VICTIM was trying to stop the assault on the DRIVER’s car. Everyone else was an aggressor or accomplice to a murder (until they step forward with information).

26 posted on 06/20/2007 2:24:44 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: traumer

No snitchin’.


27 posted on 06/20/2007 2:26:05 PM PDT by RonF
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To: traumer

“Texas mob”. What image does that bring to mind?


28 posted on 06/20/2007 2:27:55 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: JamesP81

They killed his passenger, not the driver. Another reason to be armed at all times. The most effective way to have ended this would have been to use a gun when the first rioter approached the car. Kill him, if need be.


29 posted on 06/20/2007 2:28:18 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: RonF

30 posted on 06/20/2007 2:28:33 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: traumer

Illegal alien?
Taking the beatings Americans don’t want?


31 posted on 06/20/2007 2:35:34 PM PDT by Krankor (kROGER)
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To: traumer

Not too long ago, I wrote to a fellow freeper that, while she and I would stop for such an accident, we would be doing so at far greater risk to ourselves than ever used to be. This case is an example of what I was talking about. Often we get outraged about drivers who hit and then leave the scene, but, in light of what happened here, how much can we actually blame them? The scene of an accident is no longer an occasion to help the injured, but, rather, and occasion to murder the vehicle’s driver or passenger.


32 posted on 06/20/2007 2:36:26 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: TruthConquers
Nicholas Vaca, the author of "The Presumed Alliance: The Unspoken Conflict between Latinos and Blacks and What it means for America," has postulated that the Latino population in 1980 was about 18% of Californias population, and the African-American population was about 7.7%. Today the Latino California population percentages hover around 33%, and the black population has dipped to 6.6%. In Compton the Latino population has surged to over 60% of the population.

Vaca says that currently 73% of the identified suspects in anti-black crimes are Latino, and 80% of the suspects in anti-Latino crimes are black, according to a report by the county Commission on Human Relations.

As the Latino numbers continue to swell, it will exacerbate the potential for ethnic and racial conflict between the two groups.

33 posted on 06/20/2007 2:36:51 PM PDT by AdvisorB (Shia fanaticism with its sunni sycophants is on the rise in the Middle East.)
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To: newgeezer
Upon reading that headline, my first thought was, "What country was this in?"

Me too. This is outrageous!

34 posted on 06/20/2007 2:42:06 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: RonF

That phrase pisses me off to NO END.

It almost caused A LOT of fights amongst the “thug-minded” in Basic for me.


35 posted on 06/20/2007 2:45:43 PM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: Mr.Smorch

Having gone to school in the mist of the San Fernando Valley, I most heartily concur. I went to Jr. High with a homeroom that had two individuals who spent three years arguing who was darker, one latino, one black. It will not be pretty.


36 posted on 06/20/2007 2:50:49 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: traumer

37 posted on 06/20/2007 3:00:42 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Juneteenth? I don’t know why but may be they just can’t recall the exact date.

Actually, it's June 19th.

I know this only because I work for a Fortune 500 company where yesterday, every employee received a memo about Juneteenth as part of our diversity focus. (sigh)

38 posted on 06/20/2007 3:05:18 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer

I too work for a Fortune 500 company, yet somehow we’ve escaped this particular indoctrination .


39 posted on 06/20/2007 3:09:17 PM PDT by csvset
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To: traumer

If we could only get these deadbeats as angry toward their own culture and gang members then we’d have something here.


40 posted on 06/20/2007 3:09:45 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: weegee; traumer; 2harddrive; Greg F; roostercogburn; Ancient Drive; vetsvette; JamesP81
"Texas mob"?

Oh, so that's what sort of mob it was! Guess we wouldn't want to be more informative/specific about the residents of the good ol' Booker T. apartment complex community. Meanwhile, are there any stats published anywhere of interracial crime: #'s of perpetrators by ethnic group, #'s of victims, #'s as a percentage of total population, etc?

41 posted on 06/20/2007 3:22:50 PM PDT by ProCivitas (Northern nations need stronger identity, cultural coherence, and mutual allegiance.)
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To: Continental Soldier

Depends on the location of the accident ... if it were to happen in the parking lot of a housing project ... I would head to the nearest police station and report in!


42 posted on 06/20/2007 3:26:21 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: wolfcreek
Austin has had a series of black and Hispanic shootings by the APD officers.

True, but East Austin at night is mainly black and Hispanic, so that is hardly surprising. Of course, once the bulldozers are done it will be mainly white condo dwellers...
43 posted on 06/20/2007 3:44:43 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: TruthConquers

I have been watching the series Lockdown. Docu about diff inmate life/pecking order of around the US.

Blacks vs. Hispanics.

Very interesting insight to how these cultures clash.

Lots of interviews but the Hispanics never talk unless it is one that is in protective due to a contract out on him from his own.

I suppose life in the hood is not much different.


44 posted on 06/20/2007 4:15:36 PM PDT by Global2010 ( Once I went Nanny Goat at the Ocean and then a Rip Tide hit me.)
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To: traumer
When the blacks and the latinos eventually duke it out over jobs, will the MSM label it a "civil war"?

Leni

45 posted on 06/20/2007 4:19:35 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Don't give up the ship. Keep phoning & emailing. Remember, we lost the Alamo!)
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To: ProCivitas

Not some Redneck gang! Bet ya.

juneteenth has always been trouble, mostly against participants from other participants.

juneteenth was a good time to be somewhere else.

* no cap J for emphasis.


46 posted on 06/20/2007 4:28:27 PM PDT by dusttoyou (FredThompsonBot!!!!!!!)
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To: Global2010

From what I saw, no, it is not.


47 posted on 06/20/2007 4:30:10 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: traumer

Feral.


48 posted on 06/20/2007 4:32:31 PM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: traumer

Aside from everything else, I think it’s pretty terrible that they beat the passenger in the car to death, not the driver who hit the child. Mob madness.


49 posted on 06/20/2007 4:35:58 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Greg F

Booker T. Washington, Martin Luther? It doesn’t take a genius
to figure out the ethnic background of the mob.
In the 1980’s there was a downtown , “ Lightup Atlanta’ festival that drew many people not only from the city but outlying areas.
After only 3 years the whole thing was called off. Fighting, shootings, robbing of visitors that even the politically correct couldn’t find words to excuse.
Then there was “ Freaknik’.... celebrating end of school year. It lasted longer but it too, was called off for the same reasons as Lightup Atlanta.
Problem with these stories is there is a reluctance to tell the complete story by reporters.


50 posted on 06/20/2007 4:37:36 PM PDT by Duffboy
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