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Pit bull attacks Roswell Woman
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | June 22, 2007 | Paul Kaplan

Posted on 06/22/2007 12:14:47 PM PDT by Cecily

A Roswell woman on her daily walk Friday morning was attacked by a neighbor's pit bull, which tore into her head, police said.

The woman, who was saved by neighbors responding to her screams, was in surgery Friday morning at North Fulton Regional Hospital for severe but non-life threatening injuries, said Roswell Police Lt. James McGee.

Neighbors tried to stop the attack by beating the dog with sticks and shovels, but "they didn't faze him," said Charles Tedford, president of the homeowners association in the Lake Forest subdivision, where the attack occurred.

The dog finally stopped and turned on a neighbor who had been hitting it with a shovel, biting him in the arm, McGee said.

The dog then turned to attack another neighbor who was approaching with a .45-caliber pistol. He killed the dog with one shot to the head, McGee said.

The female victim was not carrying identification and neighbors did not know her name. Her home in the 900 block of Lake Haven Court, is owned by Quoc Khoan Giang, and the home phone is listed under the name of W.A. Trinh, according to records.

(Excerpt) Read more at ajc.com ...


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Hero neighbors.
1 posted on 06/22/2007 12:14:51 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Cecily
Good thing it was in GA. If it were NY that neighbor would be in jail for possession of an illegal firearm.
2 posted on 06/22/2007 12:18:06 PM PDT by dblshot
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To: Cecily
“The dog then turned to attack another neighbor who was approaching with a .45-caliber pistol. He killed the dog with one shot to the head, McGee said.”

Good job. Nothing like a 45 to stop the show.

I’ve got a jackass neighbor with one of these dogs constantly getting loose and terrorizing the neighborhood. It may meet a similar fate someday.

3 posted on 06/22/2007 12:19:22 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: Cecily
He killed the dog with one shot to the head...

Good shootin'. Unarmed there would have likely been more victims.

Of course this could have all been prevented if the neighbors had just stayed in their homes. I mean the pit bull was gentle as can be, so I'm sure the neighbors were teasing it. /s

4 posted on 06/22/2007 12:21:45 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Cecily

Yep. Sad they didn’t know their neighbor, but they did outstanding. Charging dog head shot, good job.


5 posted on 06/22/2007 12:23:44 PM PDT by kenth (I got tired of my last tagline...)
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To: Cecily

YIKES! My old neighborhood!
If I knew there were so many good neighbors, I might not have moved.


6 posted on 06/22/2007 12:24:06 PM PDT by xroadie
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To: Cecily

My friend in Atlanta just sent this site to me today!
http://www.mothersagainstdogchaining.org/attacks.html


7 posted on 06/22/2007 12:26:03 PM PDT by 007girl
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To: Cecily
Roswell, did you say?


8 posted on 06/22/2007 12:27:11 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: kenth

Ahh, she doesn’t speak English; that’s why they didn’t get to know her. She was so fortunate to live amongst people who won’t hide in their homes when something bad happens.

“year-old daughter when it broke free of its leash and attacked the woman, McGee said.”

Geez, it could have been the guy’s own kid. Why do people own these animals? I know, I know, they’re gentle creatures only ruined by their owners.


9 posted on 06/22/2007 12:27:32 PM PDT by kenth (I got tired of my last tagline...)
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To: headstamp
I’ve got a jackass neighbor with one of these dogs constantly getting loose and terrorizing the neighborhood. It may meet a similar fate someday.

Me too.
You may have seen me post this here before, but me and my neighbor have come to an agreement.
If he does not accidentally let his dog out of the fence, then i won't accidentally blow its friggin head off.
10 posted on 06/22/2007 12:28:13 PM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Cecily

The neighbor’s right to own guns saved his neighbor.

Beats me why folks own those kinds of dogs anyway.


11 posted on 06/22/2007 12:32:21 PM PDT by marsapan
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To: oblomov

....different Roswell >>> tin foil hatter...


12 posted on 06/22/2007 12:41:00 PM PDT by Weeedley
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To: marsapan
Dogs? -—beasts as dangerous as a big jungle cat and they ought to be treated like tigers, lions, leopards by the law.

I think they should be declared contraband and totally outlawed.

13 posted on 06/22/2007 12:44:46 PM PDT by Weeedley
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To: Weeedley

“declared contraband and totally outlawed.”

and yet, they’re not while guns are.

strange world we live in.


14 posted on 06/22/2007 12:53:56 PM PDT by marsapan
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To: Cecily
Hero neighbors....

The dog then turned to attack another neighbor who was approaching with a .45-caliber pistol. He killed the dog with one shot to the head, McGee said.

THIIISss.....

Is the correct response for all uncaged and undisciplined/unrestrained animals...

Raging pit bulls...

and... all raggy-head jihadi's....

Live like an animal...
Act like an animal....
Treat others like animals...
AND...
Kill like an animal....

THEN....
Expect to die like an animal...

Shot dead in the street ---

Have a nice weekend!

15 posted on 06/22/2007 1:05:30 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Cecily

Apparently the aliens are not the only deadly thing in Roswell.


16 posted on 06/22/2007 3:26:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: Cecily
They really do "latch-on", don't they? Suppose you don't have your gun handy, and you're the victim?

To get my dog to release a ball or stick, I'd press down on his tongue, and he'd open right up. 'Wonder if this would work if attacked by a pit bull? Somebody let me know if this works! :)

17 posted on 06/22/2007 4:07:16 PM PDT by Does so
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To: Cecily; All
Update to this story:

A Roswell woman on her daily walk Friday morning was attacked by a neighbor's pit bull, which tore into her face, head and arm, police said.

Lan Khanh Trinh, 69, was saved by neighbors who responded to her screams. She underwent surgery at North Fulton Regional Hospital for severe but non-life threatening injuries, said Roswell Police Lt. James McGee.

Twelve-year-old Payton Newell was walking the dog when Trinh came up and tried to pet it, Payton said.

"He started growling and I said, 'Don't pet him,' and she said something and she reached down to pet him," Payton said. "He backed away, then he muscled his way out of the collar and attacked her."

Neighbor Robert Bailey, a 37-year-old computer technician, heard Trinh's screams outside his window at 7:45 a.m. and raced out of his house in boxer shorts and a robe.

"He was attacking her face, biting and grabbing," Bailey said.

Bailey yanked the 60-pound male, named Achilles, off of Trinh, then positioned himself between the dog and the victim. Then he came to his senses.

"It was one of those instinctive kinds of things — you just rush in," Bailey said. "Then it's, OK, I've got the dog off of her — now what do I do?" You hope for reinforcements, which is what he got.

Neighbors tried to stop the attack by beating the dog with sticks and shovels, but "they didn't faze him," said Charles Tedford, president of the homeowners association in the Lake Forest subdivision, where the attack occurred.

The dog also attacked Spencer Alexander, a neighbor who had been hitting the dog with a stick. Alexander was bitten in the left arm.

The dog then turned to attack neighbor Marc Del Santro, who was approaching with a .45-caliber pistol. Del Santro killed the dog with one shot to the head, McGee said.

Tedford said Trinh speaks almost no English, but says "good morning" with a smile to everyone she meets during her daily walks in the neighborhood off of Old Alabama Road.

"We know her as the little smiling lady," Tedford said. "She's everybody's friend."

The pit bull's owner, Glenda Newell, said her "heart goes out to this person — she's a very, very nice lady," but she should have backed off when Achilles started growling.

"My dog is very friendly, but he doesn't like to be touched by other people," Newell said. "He's not a monster. He was a very loving dog. Maybe she just scared him."

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/06/22/0622pitbull.html

18 posted on 06/22/2007 4:41:39 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: headstamp
no its not a good thing the man had a gun what would have happened if he missed the dog and hit someone .. would it be a good thing then NO .. the dog was not a monster.. when the women was told to do not pet him leave him alone she should have listened but she did not .. so again the animal gets the blame for a human mistake.. i my self own pit bulls and i trust my dogs.
19 posted on 06/23/2007 9:58:18 AM PDT by PitbullOwner1
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To: kenth

well personally i think that when the women was told to dont touch the dog and he was growling she should have left the dog alone .. so she is as much at fault as the dog is .. you think that pitbulls are mean dogs they arent .. granted some have been used for fighting but some like my 3 are nothing more than big babys who play with my son every day and would not hurt anyone .. so people need to stop and think .. if someone says leave him alone and the dog is growling that means LEAVE HIM ALONE..


20 posted on 06/23/2007 12:08:09 PM PDT by PitbullOwner1
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To: PitbullOwner1
I call Bravo Sierra. The owners are negligent on several counts.

“He backed away, then he muscled his way out of the collar and attacked her.”

1) The dog slipped his collar which tells me that the dog was on a flat collar and the collar was not tight enough.

“Twelve-year-old Payton Newell was walking the dog when Trinh came up and tried to pet it, Payton said He started growling and I said, ‘Don’t pet him,”

2 The dog is obviously leash aggressive, the owner knew it.

“Bailey yanked the 60-pound male, named Achilles...”

So what we have here is a 100 lb, 12 year old boy walking a 60 pound leash aggressive dog on a flat collar. Any responsible dog owner should have put this dog of this size and temperament on a prong collar, or at least a choke collar. Secondly a responsible owner would not allow a child to handle this dog in public. These people knew the dog had dangerous tendencies and did nothing to protect their neighbors from it.

By the way, When they say the dog backed away, They don’t mean it baked away from Trihn. I suspect they mean the dog backed away from Newell. The boy was probably trying to pull the dog away from Trihn. The dog instinctively resisted by pulling backwards and slipped his collar.

21 posted on 06/23/2007 1:12:22 PM PDT by az_illini (Freedom is the freedom to say two + two make four. If that is granted, all else follows-G. Orwell)
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To: PitbullOwner1
Here’s the story with Pit Bulls as I see it. Generally speaking Pitt Pulls are a dominant breed. They are also very powerful animals. Generally speaking, for some reason drug dealers, gang bangers, assorted dirt bags, and those with FICO scores below 600 tend to gravitate towards this breed. Maybe this is because of the breed’s tough image and intimidating look. Maybe this is because they are relatively inexpensive and readily available as compared to other “tough dogs” like Rottweilers, German Sheppard Dogs, Bouviers, Akitas, Husky’s etc. Regardless of the reason pit bulls tend to attract owners who are unwilling, or who lack the patience, dedication, temperament, education, intelligence, and financial means to learn how to properly handle a dominant breed.

Granted, Pitt bulls aren’t inherently lethal. But in the hands of the typical owner, they’re a land mine waiting to be stepped on. Its like giving a Ferrari to a 16 year old boy. He may be able to drive it around the block without an accident. Maybe the kid is mature enough to handle the responsibility, but the odds aren’t very good, and the other drivers on the road would be a lot safer if the kid had a Yarris.

Pit bull owners flame away…

22 posted on 06/23/2007 1:57:45 PM PDT by az_illini (Freedom is the freedom to say two + two make four. If that is granted, all else follows-G. Orwell)
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To: PitbullOwner1
"no its not a good thing the man had a gun what would have happened if he missed the dog and hit someone" Yeah, its better that the dog kept chewing up the victims. Sorry I disagree. It’s a damn good thing he had a gun to end the confrontation.

Every day I deal with a jackass neighbor and his pit bull and I am damned sick of it.

The owner being an idiot is beside the point however. I can't do much about that. The fact remains that I and my other neighbors have a lethal dog to deal with and some day it will be the dog or me or perhaps a neighborhood child.

These dogs should be required to be in a pen or other secure area. To have a dog of a type that if it should get loose, can cause injury or death to innocent bystanders in the neighborhood is frankly unacceptable.

Start requiring these people who want these dogs to carry 5 million dollar liability policies and this nonsense will stop because they won’t be willing to pay for that insurance and they will look for another breed. To even be out walking a dog like this that can aggressively attack the public is the height of irresponsibility. I say this as a dog owner for all of my adult life.

23 posted on 06/23/2007 4:31:16 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: PitbullOwner1

Gun bad, dog good?


24 posted on 06/23/2007 8:35:22 PM PDT by kenth (I got tired of my last tagline...)
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To: kenth

i never said the gun was bad i said WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPEND IF HE HAD MISSED THE DOG AND HIT SOME ONE ...????????


25 posted on 06/25/2007 1:02:22 PM PDT by PitbullOwner1
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To: az_illini
if you read and watched the news payton was told to walk the dog in the back yard ... no the dog was not backing away from payton he was backing away from lady and growling .. i don't care what language you speak when a dog growls you leave them alone and the lady was told to leave the dog alone .. and if you read the owner of the dog said he was a pit bull lab mix .. but all anyone sees is the pit bull .. pit bulls will be around long after you and i are gone .. granted the owners need to take more care with the breed and learn more .. but others need to learn to that you can not always walk up and pet any dog.. i have a small dog also that will bite you faster than my pits will.......all it is you all condem the breed because of the bull the media feeds you ..
26 posted on 06/25/2007 1:10:54 PM PDT by PitbullOwner1
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If we're going to have keyword abuse, could the spelling at least be correct?

27 posted on 06/25/2007 1:17:43 PM PDT by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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Ping!

A citizen with a .45 saves the day.


28 posted on 06/25/2007 1:20:47 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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29 posted on 06/25/2007 2:06:57 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

BUMP


30 posted on 06/25/2007 2:15:46 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Cecily
The dog then turned to attack another neighbor who was approaching with a .45-caliber pistol. He killed the dog with one shot to the head, McGee said.

Good. I'll bet he'd never hurt a flea, either. Dog of peace

31 posted on 06/25/2007 2:30:08 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: rawhide
"My dog is very friendly, but he doesn't like to be touched by other people," Newell said. "He's not a monster. He was a very loving dog. Maybe she just scared him."

What a load of crap. Very friendly but doesn't like to be touched. She's in denial.

Sure he's the gentlest dog in the world, and he just proved it.

32 posted on 06/25/2007 2:34:23 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Cecily
What a surprise! A Pit Bull attacks someone. Maybe that's because they are a dangerous mungrel breed that has been custom-designed to be vicious.

Statistically, Labradors bite more people than any other dog -- at least in NZ -- but funny thing how Lab Attacks never seem to make it to the news. I wonder why? Perhaps because Pit Bull attacks are more dangerous and more likely to be life-threatening, and thus more newsworthy?

Pit Bulls are unsuitable for most people to own. They are the Saturday Nite Specials of the dog kingdom. Those who wish to own them ought to be specially licensed and required to post a substantial Peace Bond. And they should be held Vicariously Liable for any assaults carried out by their dogs -- as if they had carried out the assault themselves -- with all the civil and criminal repercussions that can flow on from that.

I bet if that were done, ownership of pit bulls would dry up real quick.
33 posted on 06/25/2007 2:34:38 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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To: PitbullOwner1

Welcome to FR.

Anti-gun, pro-viscous animal, blame the victims.

Your reasoning stinks. It is good the man had a gun. If he had missed and hit someone, there’d still be a chance they’d still be less seriously injured that what that dog was doing to people.

Read the article. The lady didn’t speak English. People were beating the dog with sticks and shovels and it didn’t stop him. It was a killing machine on high. Pit bulls should be banned and shot.

This lady trusted her animal, too.


34 posted on 06/25/2007 2:37:54 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: rawhide
"My dog is very friendly, but he doesn't like to be touched by other people," Newell said.

Now there's an oxymoron if I ever heard one.

35 posted on 06/25/2007 2:42:27 PM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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To: rawhide
The dog then turned to attack neighbor Marc Del Santro, who was approaching with a .45-caliber pistol. Del Santro killed the dog with one shot to the head, McGee said.

I hope that he then twirled the gun on his finger, blew the smoke off the barrel, and slammed it into the holster! Good shootin' Marc.

36 posted on 06/25/2007 2:57:08 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: PitbullOwner1

“no its not a good thing the man had a gun”

So, you would have preferred the elderly lady had been killed rather than face the possibility of a poor shot? There’s no point in arguing what would have happened because it didn’t; other than you’re arguing that such nice doggies don’t deserve to be killed even when they’re mangling a human being.

We get the idea that you love your pitbulls, but the dog was trying to kill an elderly woman. As for not petting the dog, that information wasn’t in the original article. Nevertheless, while the woman was warned, she also did not understand English and it doesn’t justify letting a boy take out a dog he was unable to handle.


37 posted on 06/25/2007 2:59:22 PM PDT by kenth (I got tired of my last tagline...)
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To: headstamp
“The dog then turned to attack another neighbor who was approaching with a .45-caliber pistol. He killed the dog with one shot to the head, McGee said.”

NOTE TO SELF, do not bring a dog to a gun fight.

38 posted on 06/25/2007 3:04:25 PM PDT by cpdiii (Pharmacist, Pilot, Geologist, Oil Field Trash and proud of it.)
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To: az_illini
Pit bull owners flame away…

No flames..I think your analysis in this post and the one above is pretty solid.

A child should never be given the responsiblity to control
a large or strong dog, of any breed/type, in public.

39 posted on 06/25/2007 3:07:07 PM PDT by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: PitbullOwner1; B4Ranch; tubebender; Brad's Gramma; Squantos; Pete-R-Bilt
i have a small dog also that will bite you faster than my pits will.......

There is a leash/control law in my state, and further, there is NO legal defense if your dog injures someone, anywhere (private property or not). Taking this a tad further, you are allowed to use lethal force to protect yourself or others if you are attacked by a dog in a publicly accessible place, and this does not mean 'it drew blood.'

Put this all together, and you have, for the most part, polite dog owners. Our K9 officers are quite selective about when to release their dogs here, because the state will pay damages. You just put common sense to work, and if it involves the safety of the officer/s or the public, turn the dog loose, and pay the damages.

My partner is a 160 pound bull rottie. I don't let my kids walk him. I kinda like him. He covers my six, I cover his.

If a dog attacks me, I'll put a few .40's through it.

Questions? Buehler?

40 posted on 06/25/2007 4:18:39 PM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray every day for our Patriot Armed Forces fighting to protect our way of life.)
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To: PitbullOwner1
WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPEND IF HE HAD MISSED THE DOG AND HIT SOME ONE ...????????

What a rediculous question. It didn't happen. The good samaritan with the .45 is a hero, and I would bet he's a good shot. I also bet he knew who or what was behind his target. It's an analysis of a situation that happens naturally for gun enthusiasts such as myself. If it was my daughter, wife, son, or even my dog being attacked by a pit bull or any other dangerous breed, I wouldn't hesitate to grab my gun and do some vicious dog killing.

41 posted on 06/25/2007 4:33:29 PM PDT by highimpact (Abortion - [n]: human sacrifice at the altar of convenience.)
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To: az_illini

The victim denies that she was trying to pet the dog.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/06/25/0626pitbull.html


42 posted on 06/25/2007 5:07:24 PM PDT by Cecily
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43 posted on 06/25/2007 7:27:56 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Cecily

Interesting article. Sounds like the owners are lying big time. The neighbors stories corroborate with the woman’s.


44 posted on 06/25/2007 8:45:36 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Cecily

I read the article. As usual, the owner comments on how the monster was a very loving animal and then tries to blame the victim. Pit Bulls and any pit bull mix should be outlawed and destroyed. And before pit Bull owners start the usual nonsense about how the bad ones are not purebreds, yadda-yadda-yadda, everyone can recognize them, the head features are very easy to spot. And if there is any doubt, err on the side of caution and kill it anyway.


45 posted on 06/26/2007 4:00:23 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: PitbullOwner1
“no its not a good thing the man had a gun what would have happened if he missed the dog and hit someone ..”

You are being serious here? Having a gun in this situation was a bad thing? Reading your other posts it is clear you are one of the typical owners. Blame the victim, fault the good neighbor who shoots the sweet dog. Unlike you, I was able to deduce from the article that if the woman had a poor command english she may have also been limited in her understanding of it when she was told not to pet the dog. I am betting any neighbors near you have a much different opinion of your precious little killers than you do.

46 posted on 06/26/2007 4:11:10 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: PitbullOwner1

“no its not a good thing the man had a gun”

Next time you resort to using all caps try using your entire statement and do not carefully omit the important part. By saying it is not a good thing you did indeed say it was a bad thing.


47 posted on 06/26/2007 4:18:06 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: Cecily

I read the article, thanks. Given a choice of deciding who is the lier I will lean toward the pit bull owner. Hope he likes the way his desire to own a badass dog to feel like a real man is gonna cost him when the woman sues him for everything he has. With luck he can eat the leftover pit bull kibble.


48 posted on 06/26/2007 4:24:21 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: Obadiah

I don’t understand. Why didn’t they call 911? How much damage can a pit bull do in, say, 45 minutes?


49 posted on 06/26/2007 5:27:10 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: metmom

I like your style.


50 posted on 06/26/2007 6:04:36 PM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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