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Fla. Man Fatally Stabbed After Yahtzee Dispute
local6 ^ | 25-June-2007

Posted on 06/25/2007 8:15:05 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

TAMPA, Fla. -- A dispute over a game of Yahtzee ended in a fatal stabbing, police said.

Mark Kelvin Allen, 49, was playing the dice game with 47-year-old Edith Elliot at her home in Tampa's Ybor City neighborhood on Saturday night, an arrest report said.

They began to argue and Elliott went into a bedroom with her 49-year-old boyfriend.

Allen kicked in the door, scuffled with the boyfriend and then stabbed him twice, police said. The man, whose name is not being released until his relatives can be notified, later died at a hospital.

Allen was charged with second-degree murder and was being held without bond Monday, according to jail records.

Jail records did not list a lawyer for him.


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KEYWORDS: bang; fl; stab; tampa; yahtzee
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1 posted on 06/25/2007 8:15:07 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

Drinking and Yahtzee don’t mix.


2 posted on 06/25/2007 8:18:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: stainlessbanner

Hey! Yahtzee can get Rough!


3 posted on 06/25/2007 8:18:23 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: stainlessbanner
Local Man Shoots Self in Solitaire Rage
4 posted on 06/25/2007 8:18:48 PM PDT by dighton
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To: stainlessbanner

Did the boyfriend scream that “he was invisible”?


5 posted on 06/25/2007 8:19:25 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: stainlessbanner

I wonder what the word was.

They probably tried to make one up to get rid of their Z.


6 posted on 06/25/2007 8:23:09 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: dighton

har!


7 posted on 06/25/2007 8:25:03 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Sort of better than Gore or Kerry, but that's about it.........)
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To: stainlessbanner

White Trash or Black Stoop-dwellers?


8 posted on 06/25/2007 8:26:12 PM PDT by montag813
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To: No Blue States

Yahtzee isn’t words, it’s a dice game.


9 posted on 06/25/2007 8:27:11 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: stainlessbanner

Time to regulate Yahtzee.


10 posted on 06/25/2007 8:27:15 PM PDT by Wheee The People (Go FRed)
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To: stainlessbanner
I’m guessing the merchant who sold the deadly Yahtzee game didn’t follow the Yahtzee 3 day waiting period.
11 posted on 06/25/2007 8:27:52 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: stainlessbanner

we need to introduce new legislation


12 posted on 06/25/2007 8:27:57 PM PDT by vigilante2 (Thank You Troops)
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To: Wheee The People
When Yahtzee is outlawed, only outlaws will have Yahtzee.

(Sorry. Somebody had to say it.)
13 posted on 06/25/2007 8:29:22 PM PDT by frankenMonkey (An Army Dad)
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To: No Blue States
I wonder what the word was

That would be Scrabble. A much less violent game.

14 posted on 06/25/2007 8:29:35 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Old burned-out Marines for Fred.)
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To: stainlessbanner
Outlaw

They lead to foul play.

15 posted on 06/25/2007 8:30:12 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: stainlessbanner

Someone should sue the manufacturer.


16 posted on 06/25/2007 8:32:00 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Ping!


17 posted on 06/25/2007 8:35:01 PM PDT by Huntress (The United States already has enough people with college degrees. Who is going to cut their tobacco?)
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To: stainlessbanner

Mensa? Those folks take that stuff seriously.


18 posted on 06/25/2007 8:35:14 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: stainlessbanner
Allen kicked in the door,

Older mobile homes have flimsy doors.

19 posted on 06/25/2007 8:38:34 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: stainlessbanner

My sister moved to Fla. a few years ago and everytime I talk to her she comments on how many murders go on there daily.I don’t know if it’s Florida’s major pass time or just the heat ???


20 posted on 06/25/2007 8:40:11 PM PDT by Obie Wan (If)
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To: montag813

How long before some enterprising country musician writes a song about this?


21 posted on 06/25/2007 8:40:43 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: dfwgator

This why Drunk Yahtzee should be outlawed. Naked Yahtzee rarely ends in tragedy.


22 posted on 06/25/2007 8:42:43 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: stainlessbanner

Yahtzee is a family tradition in my house. One time there was a dispute over whether you can fill in 40 for ‘large straight’ if you roll a ‘Yahtzee’ after you’ve already crossed off ‘Yahtzee’ and you have the top filled in. (You can.) It never evolved into a knife fight, however.


23 posted on 06/25/2007 8:45:39 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Obie Wan

I spent two three-years tours of duty in the Sunshine State. It attracts the Flotsam and Jetsam of the Americas. I’ve never seen so many dope peddlers, sex offenders, and just plain weird folk in my life.


24 posted on 06/25/2007 8:48:10 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: stainlessbanner
Allen kicked in the door, scuffled with the boyfriend and then stabbed him twice...

Allen then yelled, Yahtzee!!!

25 posted on 06/25/2007 8:51:13 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: stainlessbanner
If they had played Kismet instead of Yahtzee, the man would be alive today.

-PJ

26 posted on 06/25/2007 8:51:34 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: chesty_puller

Unless your opponent continually claims that xray or xe are legit.


27 posted on 06/25/2007 8:51:54 PM PDT by jwalburg (Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. What does that say about schools?)
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To: dighton; aculeus; martin_fierro; Lijahsbubbe
Allen kicked in the door, scuffled with the boyfriend and then stabbed him twice

From where did this story roll in, a double wide passion pit? Edith must have been just to die for...

28 posted on 06/25/2007 8:52:15 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: stainlessbanner

Not surprising. This is what happens when anyone can just walk in off the street and buy dice. You don’t even have to have a permit to play Yatzee.

Isn’t it time for common sense dice laws?


29 posted on 06/25/2007 8:55:07 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I like the game, too. Never had to slice anyone up though.


30 posted on 06/25/2007 8:56:16 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Political Junkie Too; Thinkin' Gal
If they had played Kismet instead of Yahtzee, the man would be alive today.

That’s fate for ya.

31 posted on 06/25/2007 8:56:57 PM PDT by dighton
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To: stainlessbanner

It’s the dumbassedness of stupidity.


32 posted on 06/25/2007 8:58:57 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: REDWOOD99

well that depends on who is naked


33 posted on 06/25/2007 9:00:07 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Wheee The People
Time to regulate Yahtzee.

When Yahtzee is outlawed, only outlaws will scream "Yahtzee!".

34 posted on 06/25/2007 9:01:12 PM PDT by meyer (RNC, DNC, two sides of the same coin.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Someone should sue the manufacturer.

Yeah! Those 6-sided boosterds!

35 posted on 06/25/2007 9:02:18 PM PDT by meyer (RNC, DNC, two sides of the same coin.)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

Bad Gal! You should be ashamed!

LoL.


36 posted on 06/25/2007 9:04:16 PM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: Moonman62
How long before some enterprising country musician writes a song about this?

Not just a country song, but the best country-western song ever written....

"I was drunk the day my momma rolled a yahtzee!,
......

37 posted on 06/25/2007 9:05:48 PM PDT by meyer (RNC, DNC, two sides of the same coin.)
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To: meyer

That has the same melody as “Grandma got run over by a reindeer.”


38 posted on 06/25/2007 9:11:44 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: meyer

“I was drunk the day my momma rolled a yahtzee!,
I told her ‘momma! you’r on your fourth roll!’
She said ‘who are you? the bone-thrower nazi?’
That’s when her passion a-started to boil....”

She squared with me, and I knew it was comin’!
I ducked into my room, that yahtzee night!
Those hinges on that door sure are nothin’!
Now I’m starin’ down a Geunsue knife!.....”


39 posted on 06/25/2007 9:18:24 PM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: Huntress; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...
Some people are members of the human race only on a technicality.


40 posted on 06/25/2007 9:18:49 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Gaza: Your one-stop schadenfreude entertainment center.)
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To: Obie Wan
My sister moved to Fla. a few years ago and everytime I talk to her she comments on how many murders go on there daily.I don’t know if it’s Florida’s major pass time or just the heat ???

It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.

41 posted on 06/25/2007 9:20:25 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Gaza: Your one-stop schadenfreude entertainment center.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Don’t you mean a Full House ? A Yahtzee could be construed as two-of-a-kind plus three-of-a-kind, but I don’t see how it could be construed as a Large Straight, which is one thru five or two thru six.


42 posted on 06/25/2007 9:24:52 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Lancey Howard
Yahtzee is a family tradition in my house. One time there was a dispute over whether you can fill in 40 for ‘large straight’ if you roll a ‘Yahtzee’ after you’ve already crossed off ‘Yahtzee’ and you have the top filled in. (You can.) It never evolved into a knife fight, however.

The Joker rule allows 5-of-a-kind to be scored in any section of the bottom provided that both Yahtzee and the top-section square corresponding to the rolled number have both filled in. I thought the Joker option only applied when Yahtzee was filled in with 50, though--not when it's defaulted with zero.

I rather liked a Macintosh version which would allow 5-of-a-kind to be filled in any top-section square if the one corresponding to the roll was already filled (e.g. if I've filled in fives for 15, and then later roll 5 fives, then if I haven't scored aces (1's) yet I could score the roll there for 25 points. A very nice ability. The option was available whether or not Yahtzee was filled in, and could create some interesting strategic twists.

43 posted on 06/25/2007 9:33:47 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: stainlessbanner
"Fla. Man Fatally Stabbed After Yahtzee Dispute"

What is...you know you're a redneck when...?
44 posted on 06/25/2007 9:43:30 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: supercat
I thought the Joker option only applied when Yahtzee was filled in with 50, though--not when it's defaulted with zero.

Ha! That's exactly what our dispute was!

Rules of Yahtzee

You can also use subsequent Yahtzee's as jokers in the lower scores section, provided the following criteria have been satisfied:

1. You have scored a zero or 50 in the Yahtzee category.
2. You have filled the corresponding category in the upper scores section.

If this is the case, you can use the Yahtzee as a joker to fill in any lower scores category. You score the category as normal. Thus for the Small Straight, Large Straight, and Full House categories, you would score 30, 40, and 25 points respectively. For the 3 of a Kind, 4 of a Kind, and Chance categories, you would score the total of the die face.

45 posted on 06/25/2007 10:02:56 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dr_lew

See post #45.

Regards,
LH


46 posted on 06/25/2007 10:05:41 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: meyer
You want a country song? Hmm...OK, here's a country song.

I lifted ol' Blue up inter the truck
An' I turned that radio on
An' I drove to her trailer jist to try my luck
An' I parked it right up on her lawn

Nekkid Yahtzee, roll them dice
Pour a little Everclear over some ice
Don't you tell me that the game ain't nice
Jest shut up and roll
It's country soul
Now don't make me tell you twice

Well ol Blue was a howlin' and the Smokey slowed
And the trooper walked up and he said
"Son, you cain't toss beer cans on the side of the road,
"Yer supposed to hit the truck bed."

"Well, I cain't do that," I sez to the man
"There's a hound dawg a-ridin' back thar,
"And there's nuthin' but chaw in one o' them cans
"And they all look the same from up hyar."

Nekkid Yahtzee, roll them dice
Pour a little Everclear over some ice
Don't you tell me that the game ain't nice
Jest shut up and roll
It's country soul
Now don't make me tell you twice

Well I wuz nekkid right thar but I plumb fergot
And I stood up to speak my mind,
I sez "Thanks a lot, these dice is hot
"And I'm comin' from behind."

"I'm wearin' skin, but I'm about to win,
"I only need one pair!"
And the trooper grinned and gave the cuffs a spin,
"Son, I guess you got a point there."

Nekkid Yahtzee, roll them dice
Pour a little Everclear over some ice
Don't you tell me that the game ain't nice
Jest shut up and roll
It's country soul
Now don't make me tell you twice

Well the judge heard my story and the bailiff took my cash
And they gave me this nice orange vest
Thirty days on the highway jest a pickin' up trash
And I only got one request

If you see Linda Lou all dressed in black
And the wind whippin' through her hair
Jest keep on drivin' and don't look back
She'll throw the dice down and you'll be the clown
You'll see your name writ all over town
And oh, the word will git around,
"That Billy, he don't got a pair."

Nekkid Yahtzee, roll them dice
Pour a little Everclear over some ice
Don't you tell me that the game ain't nice
Jest shut up and roll
It's country soul
Now don't make me tell you twice.

Yee. Hah. :-)

47 posted on 06/25/2007 10:19:44 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: stainlessbanner

For years, my wife and I in the late 70s , kept a little newspaper account on our bulletin board, which told the story of a killing of one brother by another over a pork chop that one took from the other’s plate, after he ate his own. Another pathetic Darwin Award entry. The last line was, from the mouth of the brother who pulled the trigger “I really wanted that pork chop”.


48 posted on 06/25/2007 10:21:14 PM PDT by supremedoctrine (The only thing sourdough bread is good for is a grilled cheese sandwich.For that, it's essential.)
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To: IncPen

Lesson learned, never play Yahtzee if your opponent is known by 3 names. At least is middle name is not Wayne.


49 posted on 06/25/2007 10:54:37 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: processing please hold

“Yahtzee isn’t words, it’s a dice game.”

No wonder I never won.


50 posted on 06/26/2007 5:07:30 AM PDT by No Blue States
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