Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Michael Behe Responds to Critics of his New Book "The Edge of Evolution"
Amazon.com ^ | June 27, 2007 | Michael Behe

Posted on 06/30/2007 10:08:27 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Major reviews of The Edge of Evolution have begun to appear. Because the conclusion of the book is so controversial, it’s no surprise that responses by some Darwinists so far have been pretty emotional and defensive...

(Excerpt) Read more at amazon.com ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature
KEYWORDS: bookreview; crevo; darwinsblackbox; edgeofevolution; fsmdidit; irreduciblycomplex; jerrycoyne; michaelbehe; michaelruseruse; seancarroll
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-33 next last

1 posted on 06/30/2007 10:08:29 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; metmom; AndyTheBear; Coyoteman; ahayes; ndt; ...

ping


2 posted on 06/30/2007 10:12:37 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts

Have to get this on my library list!


3 posted on 06/30/2007 10:15:48 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Have some hyperbolic rodomontade, and nothing worse will happen for the rest of the day!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tax-chick
==Have to get this on my library list!

I’m about half way through it. Very concise and easy to read, and it devastates Darwinism (as is to be expected from a book by Behe)—GGG

4 posted on 06/30/2007 10:18:02 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts

Remove me from your ping list please.


5 posted on 06/30/2007 10:18:05 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Coyoteman

I knew you couldn’t ignore me! LOL

PS Your request has been processed and it shall be done.


6 posted on 06/30/2007 10:19:16 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Coyoteman

Have you no interest in real science?


7 posted on 06/30/2007 10:22:04 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts

Don’t remove me from ping list :)


8 posted on 06/30/2007 10:23:04 AM PDT by dennisw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts
add me to your list...

I can't in most any way pretend to take Coyoteman's "place", but I will bring my own popcorn.

9 posted on 06/30/2007 10:23:16 AM PDT by BlueDragon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Coyoteman

Poor baby! Too hot in the kitchen? LOL


10 posted on 06/30/2007 10:25:40 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts

bump


11 posted on 06/30/2007 10:30:39 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks - I appreciate the additional information. Our local library has a very good “current topics” section, with a genuine diversity of opinion.


12 posted on 06/30/2007 11:12:28 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Have some hyperbolic rodomontade, and nothing worse will happen for the rest of the day!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts
Thanks to you, for starting this thread. I otherwise wouldn't have, on my own, come across Behe's responses to his critics [which he politely & reasonably shreds].

For other's here, viewing pleasure, I'll borrow a small snippet from his blog entry, if I may...
It shows cases some of the circular logic so often employed by the fervently faithful [of Darwinian processes explaining EVERYTHING].

Behe;

"The same question-begging is used to “answer” my argument on protein binding sites, but with a special twist. Writes Coyne: “In fact, interactions between proteins, like any complex interaction, were certainly built up step by mutational step ... This process could have begun with weak proteinprotein associations that were beneficial to the organism. These were then strengthened gradually...” So, reasons Coyne, we know protein binding sites developed gradually by random mutation because we know proteins have binding sites. So there!"

Behe also mentions that much of the criticism is ad hominem, appeals to authority, and the like, along with circular arguments, etc.

Further up in Behe's response is this;

"I knew of course that Coyne strongly dislikes intelligent design, but was hopeful as I first started his review that he would engage the book’s arguments and offer thoughtful counterpoints, which could help sharpen my own thinking."

Ah, yes...

The wonderful world of Crevo wars. They are not restricted to being only here at FR.

More widely than just *here* hardly anyone wants to talk about, or narrowly discuss "the article".

Behe, to his credit, does a fine job of investigating and discussing some of the various 'articles' which have long composed "Darwinian" assumptions. That's how science can indeed work, isn't it? [Is supposed to work? That we are repeatedly told, is the way that it works???]

13 posted on 06/30/2007 12:25:01 PM PDT by BlueDragon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BlueDragon

...font color and emphasis changes in the above post, strictly my own, not Behe’s...


14 posted on 06/30/2007 12:26:47 PM PDT by BlueDragon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts; Coyoteman
"Remove me from your ping list"

Put him on your 'PONG' list; he's about as obsolete as a Pong console.

15 posted on 06/30/2007 1:29:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts
(well, with one exception that I won’t mention).

He just mentioned it. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that he won't go into the details but wanted to know that something happened.

16 posted on 06/30/2007 2:45:52 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BlueDragon
Behe also mentions that much of the criticism is ad hominem, appeals to authority, and the like, along with circular arguments, etc.

What appeals to authority? Didn't you know that all credible scientists believe the theory of evolution and the debate is over. </willful blindness>

17 posted on 06/30/2007 2:55:57 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts
Frankly, it’s astounding that a prominent academic evolutionary biologist like Coyne hides behind the judicial skirts of the former head of the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board. If Coyne himself can’t explain how Darwinism can cope with the challenges The Edge of Evolution cites, how could a non-scientist judge?

Its more amazing people who promote evolution still site the scopes trial. Its not only judicial rather then scientific, but the data seems a bit out of date.

But I just heard that the House of Representatives voted that Global Warming is real.

How close that glorious day when a "Ministry of Truth" is finally established to settle all disagreement with established science?

18 posted on 06/30/2007 3:17:32 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts
Because the conclusion of the book is so controversial,

And that conclusion is......?

19 posted on 07/01/2007 7:46:16 AM PDT by GunRunner (Come on Fred, how long are you going to wait?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GunRunner
And that conclusion is......?

Darwinian evolution is so flawed a model as to render it impossible.

20 posted on 07/01/2007 9:56:05 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-33 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson