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Duke president Broadhead's Role in the Non-Rape Scandal
The Duke Chronicle ^

Posted on 06/30/2007 12:02:54 PM PDT by rickdylan

An article in the Duke Chronicle today spells out Duke president Richard Broadhead's role in the shabby affair we have been witnessing and provides a glimpse of the rationale for Duke's rush to settle several of the potential legal cases which were involved.

At this point I would warn kids off thinking about attending Duke.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: academia; broadhead; dukelax; dukeu

1 posted on 06/30/2007 12:02:54 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: rickdylan
At this point I would warn kids off thinking about attending Duke.

No sh**.

L

2 posted on 06/30/2007 12:05:48 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: rickdylan
Why doesn’t Broadhead resign over his role in this affair? He’s the one who rushed out to the podium and declared these kids guilty.
3 posted on 06/30/2007 12:09:57 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Withhold Taxes - Starve a Liberal)
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To: rickdylan

Here is my real question. If your last name is Broadhead, why would you name your kid Richard?


4 posted on 06/30/2007 12:11:06 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Cowboy Bob

And why isn’t Brodhead fired?


5 posted on 06/30/2007 12:11:23 PM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: rickdylan
I hope the families of the kids and the former Lacrosse coach bring a devastating civil lawsuit against DOOK.
6 posted on 06/30/2007 12:11:29 PM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08! Return our country to the era of Reagan Conservatism)
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To: Lurker

You would be astounded by the drop in applications for incoming freshmen.


7 posted on 06/30/2007 12:12:04 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: rickdylan
American academia is a morass of mediocrity.

Once this was not true. It is today.

8 posted on 06/30/2007 12:14:38 PM PDT by Savage Beast (A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.~Durant)
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To: SmoothTalker

It appears his parents were psychic.


9 posted on 06/30/2007 12:16:33 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what Iíve done here today doesnít force you to have a negative opinion of meÖ.)
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To: Founding Father

Good. And it should stay that way until he is fired or resigns.


10 posted on 06/30/2007 12:17:34 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what Iíve done here today doesnít force you to have a negative opinion of meÖ.)
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To: SmoothTalker
Got any gum on ya', Dick?

Yeah ... wanna' chew it off?

11 posted on 06/30/2007 12:19:08 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: rickdylan
At this point I would warn kids off thinking about attending Duke.

Why?

Due to the reaction this fiasco will cause at Duke, something similar is probably less likely to happen at Duke in the future than at just about any other college in the country.

Similarly, it is safer to fly now than it was on 9/10. Not because of government security measures, but because the passengers no longer have the illusion of safety and so will not allow a hijacking to occur.

12 posted on 06/30/2007 12:20:01 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: stm
I hope the families of the kids and the former Lacrosse coach bring a devastating civil lawsuit against DOOK.

I heard that the kids and the coaches settled separately for undisclosed amounts.

That's the University. I wonder if the liability of the "Duke 88" faculty is included, or they were acting on their own. They ought to be separately liable, IMHO.

13 posted on 06/30/2007 12:20:06 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: rickdylan
heh. The Duke 3 settled too soon and too easily.

At the very least I would have insisted that the "gang of 88" be fired. Except for the one of the 88 who recanted and apologized. That one I would keep.

14 posted on 06/30/2007 12:21:06 PM PDT by LibKill (Bush betrayed conservatives on Immigration. NO support for Bush.)
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To: stm
I hope the families of the kids and the former Lacrosse coach bring a devastating civil lawsuit against DOOK.

I heard that DOOK has already paid big bucks to the players.

15 posted on 06/30/2007 12:22:11 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Savage Beast

“American academia is a morass of mediocrity.”

Certainly true, but no surprise. Liberals run almost all of academia and they see mediocrity as the ultimate social construct.


16 posted on 06/30/2007 12:23:02 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Founding Father

I hope you are right.


17 posted on 06/30/2007 12:23:24 PM PDT by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: rickdylan

I want to know why Broadhead and the “88” aren’t made to come out publicly and grovel before the American people?


18 posted on 06/30/2007 12:23:38 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Sherman Logan
I don't think anyone is really worried about a repeat of this at Duke. What I'd be worried about is that at least 88 of the 'professors' at that University are screaming moonbat Marxists and outright unapologetic racists as well.

There's no way in Hell I'd send my 18 or 19 year old kid into that environment. Duke University showed its true colors during this sordid affair.

The entire University either through action or inaction demonstrated its outright hostility to the American principle of the presumption of innocence, not to mention the idea of basic human decency.

Nope. Maybe if the Board of Regents, or whoever really runs that asylum, went through it with an extremely new broom starting with Brodhead and the Gang of 88 I might consider it.

Until then, I hope the place goes broke from lack of students and legal defense fees.

I'd love to see what's happened to alumni donations. I'll bet they're down to a trickle.

L

19 posted on 06/30/2007 12:32:36 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: Founding Father
>You would be astounded by the drop in applications for incoming freshmen.

I suspect it's the quality more than the quantity of applications they need to worry about. The people wanting to major in Albanian and Bushman studies will still be there. Early admissions were down over 20% a while back and those were the kids who had to make an immediate decision. It's likely that a whole lot of the kids with more time to think about it will end up elsewhere.

20 posted on 06/30/2007 12:33:08 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: rickdylan

Thanks for posting this.


21 posted on 06/30/2007 12:34:58 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008 - www.electtancredo.com and www.teamtancredo.com)
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To: rickdylan
Compounding and intensifying these issues of race and gender, they include concerns about the deep structures of inequality in our society—inequalities of wealth, privilege, and opportunity (including educational opportunity), and the attitudes of superiority those inequalities breed.

Oh, here we go again. I am so f'ing tired of people thinking that if you have money, you're a bad person. As I sit here, I try to weigh the good things that rich people do (e.g., charities, create jobs, capital formation, etc.) for me and society against what the poor people do for me (e.g., nothing but drain my taxes away). And please, don't lecture me on lack of opportunity, discrimination, blah, blah, blah. I simply know too many minorities who have made it--indeed, made it big--to put any credence to those old hackneyed arguments that Jesse and Al like to trot out.

Sorry, guys, in this day if you're poor, it's pretty much your own fault. If you had worked harder in school, studied, and applied yourself, you wouldn't be a drain on society today. I realize there are legitimate exceptions (e.g., poor health, etc.) but those are relatively few. Personally, I'd like to see us adopt the German system where, if you receive public assistance, you work for it sweeping streets, cleaning out gov't buildings, or all of the other jobs that illegals are currently doing.

The Duke president's comments are a reversion to old minority arguments that no longer apply and I'm extremely tired of people who offer these tired, phony arguments to explain away problems. Now that the truth has been exposed in this case, I wonder if we will see retractions from Broadhead, Jesse, and Al for the lies and false accusations made by Crystal and her cohort in crime, Nifong. As to the Duke 88, they should lose their tenure at the very least.

22 posted on 06/30/2007 12:35:46 PM PDT by econjack
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To: Sherman Logan

“Why?”

I don’t know. Maybe:

A. because it is liberal/feminist/communist crap hole full of elitist little shits from the north?

Or perhaps,

B. because it sucks?

A and B?


23 posted on 06/30/2007 12:38:07 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Similarly, it is safer to fly now than it was on 9/10. Not because of government security measures, but because the passengers no longer have the illusion of safety and so will not allow a hijacking to occur.

I agree that the gov't has not done anything to make us safer...it simply too easy to gain access to the tarmac as a member of the cleaning crew, food service, or baggage handlers. However, I disagree with the statement that it's safer to fly now than before 9/11 due to anticipated actions by passengers. There has been very little to suggest that passengers will assume the same actions we saw on United 93. Indeed, surveys suggest that most Americans think they are safer now than before...a stupid conclusion.

24 posted on 06/30/2007 12:42:18 PM PDT by econjack
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To: Sue Perkick

If they were psychic and honest, they would have changed their last names to Head.


25 posted on 06/30/2007 12:45:23 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (I never consented to live in the Camp of the Saints.)
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To: Sherman Logan

You are positing a stabilizing negative feedback mechanism. Positive feedback is also possible e.g., Duke will become a magnet for likeminded mushheads and sink even faster into the abyss.


26 posted on 06/30/2007 12:51:47 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (I never consented to live in the Camp of the Saints.)
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To: econjack

When you think about it, it’s mainly the wealthy who can protect enough of their money for the possibility of donating meaningful amounts of it to good causes (as opposed to the evil causes the government uses the money it takes from the rest of us for) to at least exist.


27 posted on 06/30/2007 1:00:43 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: rickdylan
This may sound ridiculous, but here’s a suggestion. How about making a big push for a FAIRNESS DOCTRINE for American universities. We can start with Duke. No liberal indoctrination without equal time for the Right. These are our children were talking about here. It a matter of national security.
28 posted on 06/30/2007 1:02:34 PM PDT by zeller the zealot (Are Republicans the Party of Life, or is that too risky?)
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To: rickdylan
Ethics vs. morals.

Ethics has become the secular approach to teaching right and wrong, and the name “God” is never mentioned in a college text as a basis for conduct when ethics is taught.

There are definition from Webster and then there are those implied concepts that carry a mood or feeling with them and transcend what the literal definition means. Ethics is the concept of right and wrong in the absence of God. Even the most secularist concede the need for norms of behavior and this is also the case in business, politics, accounting, human relationships, and education.

Examples:

Do a “Find” (under the edit tab) for the word God in Wikipedia under the term ethics:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics Zero hits.

Do the same thing for under the description of morality:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality Several hits.

Duke is a mirror into Americas’, and even the Western world’s soul. From Clintons “most ethical administration ever” to the common and even acceptable business practices in this country or interpersonal relationships and marriage. People always talk about the things they don’t have, and there is a reason why in most MBA programs we teach ethics as part of nearly every class. We talk about right and wrong behavior, but we don’t even know what it is! The problem with knowing right and wrong can best be exemplified with a typical undergraduate text in cultural anthology at an American university.

Basically the entire textbook can be summarized in two statements.

1. Behavior has to be judged through the social filters and norms of that society.

2. Applying ones own moral standards to judge others makes one jingoistic and narrow minded.

What modern ethics essentially teaches is what one of my professors told me in a class: “it is a matter of pride and accomplishment to have ethics” What this really means is that we look at the performance and the bottom line and accept that which brings the highest yield as “ethical”. I proceeded to tell him that the Nazi’s while implementing their final solution were highly effective and efficient! He didn’t like that. How does this tie into Duke? The leadership at Duke behaved in a way they saw as minimizing the damage to them firstly and to their school secondly. It was a political decision, and in their mind probably even “ethical”.

What you end up with is a way of thinking that sees no wrong in any behavior except if the “mob” comes to consensus that it’s wrong. Nietzsche referred to this as the herd. What you end up with is a version of “mob rule”. It is a life without morals and principals. Morals usually refer to a divine source and deal in absolutes. Morals normally entail a concept of “principals” that are not for sale, bargaining or compromise. Ethics are hollow and the term itself is meaningless essentially.

In this Duke case the mob in the coliseum put their thumbs up (actually it would be down but Hollywood has revered this and it has become accepted this way) and chose to let those innocent lacrosse players go. The leadership at Duke will follow suit. Politically when the issue first arose however, the leadership acted in a way that was to save their skin. Where were their principals? Had some media outlets not picked up on this story and ran with it the way they did, what would the “ethical” leadership at Duke have done? Had all the media been negative would they have stood by their students they knew were only accused and most likely innocent or thrown them under the bus? As I said, in the absence of principals which require morals, it just boils down to version of mob rule, and there essentially is no right and wrong anymore.

The important thing is that they have an ethics department!

http://kenan.ethics.duke.edu

29 posted on 06/30/2007 1:19:05 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: rickdylan
"At this point I would warn kids off thinking about attending Duke."

White males, anyway.

But then, it might be good for them to discover early whart an endangered species we have become.

30 posted on 06/30/2007 1:31:52 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD -"What would Jack Bauer do?")
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To: SmoothTalker
"If your last name is Broadhead, why would you name your kid Richard?"

My guess is that he wasn't given that name, he earned it...

31 posted on 06/30/2007 1:33:03 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD -"What would Jack Bauer do?")
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To: rickdylan

The political correctness and cowardice displayed by Brodhead is not in the slightest unique to Duke or at all unusual. Brodhead was, after all, at Yale for 32 years before coming to Duke.

And it’s not confined to so-called elite schools. It permeates nearly all of the American university system.


32 posted on 06/30/2007 1:49:48 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Red6
Sounds like you might have noticed the fact that without God there is no logical basis for morality. You might find this interesting.
33 posted on 06/30/2007 1:56:33 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: SmoothTalker

>> Here is my real question. If your last name is Broadhead, why would you name your kid Richard?

Foresight.


34 posted on 06/30/2007 2:10:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: rickdylan
We made our target and the FR-encouraged Sowell ad WILL run in the special edition of The Chronicle in July. I'll post a full report when the dust settles, in two days. Check any of the Duke/Sowell threads to see how we are taking the fight into President Broadhead's back yard.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Death by Talk Radio: the Amnesty Bill"

35 posted on 06/30/2007 2:46:24 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please promote Dr. Sowell's words, at Duke.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The Duke settlement was, I understand, a “global” one. The millions that the University paid out cover its bad-mouth professors as well — sad to say.

John / Billybob


36 posted on 06/30/2007 2:49:28 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please promote Dr. Sowell's words, at Duke.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I figure half the problem Duke has is rogue elements of the admin and faculty which need getting rid of. The other half is the city of Durham itself. Those losers voted Fong back into office in November of last year with 95% of the black vote, after the whole world knew how phony the whole thing was. Duke has to move; I wouldn’t send a kid to ANY school in or near Durham NC.


37 posted on 06/30/2007 4:46:45 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: econjack
There has been very little to suggest that passengers will assume the same actions we saw on United 93.

Oh, please.

Just remember that it was illegal for a member of the flying public to interfere with a hijacking in progress on the morning of September 11, 2001.

Now, however, kicking in the face of a suspected hijacker will be met with polite or enthusiastic applause from your fellow passengers.

38 posted on 06/30/2007 6:19:28 PM PDT by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: zeller the zealot
No liberal indoctrination without equal time for the Right. These are our children were talking about here. It a matter of national security.

Hey! You sound like some sort of zealot!...

39 posted on 06/30/2007 6:51:18 PM PDT by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: Red6
As I said, in the absence of principals which require morals, it just boils down to version of mob rule, and there essentially is no right and wrong anymore.

Just an ever-expanding "Big Book of Laws" which races to outlaw just about everything you can think of.

EXCELLENT post, Red6.

40 posted on 06/30/2007 6:58:15 PM PDT by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: rickdylan
Most of the responses at the site are excellent.

This one is certainly not the best response but is short and to the point:

Dick Broadhead
Before He Dicks YOU...

41 posted on 06/30/2007 7:07:10 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: SmoothTalker
If your last name is Broadhead, why would you name your kid Richard?

I went to college with a guy named Richard Hertz. Obviously he did NOT go by the common nickname for Richard.

42 posted on 06/30/2007 7:09:14 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: LibKill
Except for the one of the 88 who recanted and apologized

You don't have alink to this story, do you? I haven't heard that and would be interested in reading more about it.

43 posted on 06/30/2007 7:11:18 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

LOL. Very true!


44 posted on 06/30/2007 7:40:16 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what Iíve done here today doesnít force you to have a negative opinion of meÖ.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I’m afraid that’s my understanding as well.


45 posted on 06/30/2007 7:42:22 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what Iíve done here today doesnít force you to have a negative opinion of meÖ.)
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To: Lurker
What I'd be worried about is that at least 88 of the 'professors' at that University are screaming moonbat Marxists and outright unapologetic racists as well.

Agreed. Unfortunately, I suspect it is fairly representative of American colleges as a whole.

46 posted on 07/01/2007 4:22:27 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: Sue Perkick
What’s the scoop on Nifong. Last I heard he was “away”. Is anyone encouraging him to return and face the Judge? I do so hope that someone in Durham’s justice system has the courage to request the honor of his presence at the Courthouse party being given solely in his honor.
47 posted on 07/05/2007 9:19:07 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

The last I heard he had run away with his guitar :-)

He has a hearing the 26th for which he must be present.


48 posted on 07/05/2007 9:23:52 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what Iíve done here today doesnít force you to have a negative opinion of meÖ.)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Why?”

It’s called consequences. Duke needs to suffer the consequences of their actions.


49 posted on 07/05/2007 9:28:44 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Sue Perkick

Yippee! He is still my prime suspect, the rest were a bunch of dupes


50 posted on 07/05/2007 9:35:18 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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