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You can't name your restaurant Fat Buddha because it offends Buddhists says council
The Daily Mail ^ | 21st July 2007 | ANDREW CHAPMAN

Posted on 07/22/2007 10:16:56 AM PDT by Daffynition

In China he is a symbol of health and happiness. But tell that to the politically correct council officer who objected to a restaurant being called Fat Buddha...because it might offend Buddhists

A Buddhist businessman who wants to call his Chinese restaurant Fat Buddha has angered council chiefs - who claim the name will upset Buddhists.

Eddie Fung's £1.3million restaurant will open in Durham next month, creating 60 jobs.

But the restaurateur was astonished when Tracey Ingle, the city council's head of cultural services, demanded he change the name because it was 'provocative'.

Mr Fung, 39, said: "I cannot believe that this woman should go to so much time and trouble to take issue over an inoffensive name like Fat Buddha.

"No Buddhist is going to be offended by this. The fat Buddha is a symbol of health and happiness. It is political correctness gone mad."

And a spokesman for the Buddhist Society said: "Buddhists regard the fat Buddha as lucky. To suggest this is offensive is to misunderstand the faith.

"Buddhists don't take offence at anything because to do so doesn't follow Buddhist teachings."

Mr Fung said that his company, Utopian Leisure, had received no complaints about the use of the name Fat Buddha at his first restaurant, which opened in Belfast earlier this year.

In a letter to Mr Fung, Miss Ingle wrote: "To use the name of a major religion's deity in your restaurant brand runs contrary to this city's reputation as a place of equality and respect for others' views and religious beliefs.

"The generic descriptive adjective of "fat" is not in itself a derogatory term when applied generally ... the name implies an Eastern offer <\[>sic] as it is associated with a religion that grew from Asian countries ... It does not, however, offer vegetarian cuisine solely nor does it refer to Buddhist belief systems. The name is provocative."

Durham City Council defended her position, saying: "The department felt the name was inappropriate in a city founded on faith. We don't want to offend anyone because of the different faiths that come to the city. The council operates a strict non-discriminatory equal-opportunities and diversity policy across the board."

Miss Ingle added: "I stand by the letter, which asked the restaurant owners to rename the place. That is where we are now.

"We have taken every reasonable step and I have contacted the company director and set out my concerns.

"The restaurant is in a very prominent position and it does have an impact on the reputation of the city. I have expressed a view as head of cultural services in dealing with the culture of the city."

Buddhism was founded 2,500 years ago in India by Siddhartha Gautama, who later became known as the Buddha.

There are 350million Buddhists worldwide, including more than 150,000 in Britain.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: buddha; buddhists; china; india
WWBD?


1 posted on 07/22/2007 10:17:01 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

A suggestion to the owner - Place Sign “Named ‘Moron Liberal’ so as Not to Offend any Sitting Democrat”
The place will be packed!


2 posted on 07/22/2007 10:23:38 AM PDT by Yomin Postelnik (Want a candidate who stands up for conservative principles instead of apologizing? gohunter08.com)
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To: Daffynition

“If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.”


3 posted on 07/22/2007 10:27:07 AM PDT by giobruno
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To: Daffynition
Is Tracey Ingle expecting an angry mob of Buddhist monks, burning British flags while hopping up and down, screaming bloody murder? That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long time. Doesn't she know that you have to be a follower of a “religion of peace” to do that sort of thing?
4 posted on 07/22/2007 10:29:31 AM PDT by cartan
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To: Daffynition; All
Chinese Laundry Owner Blasted For Reinforcing Negative Ethnic Stereotypes
5 posted on 07/22/2007 10:35:08 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Daffynition
Miss Ingle added: "I stand by the letter, which asked the restaurant owners to rename the place. That is where we are now.

Ms. Ingle is the personification of the old truism...

The only thing necessary for an unjust society to exist is an endless supply of unjust administrators.

Is there an email address where we can share our view of her neurotic-level sensitivity?

6 posted on 07/22/2007 10:36:23 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: cartan
Many people suspect that this Tracey Ingle is more concerned with the menu at Fat Buddha than the name.

Note her focus on vegetarianism ~ that's BS. Plenty of Buddhists in good standing eat meat ~

This old gal is simply trying to impose her incorrect religious beliefs on other people.

If it were possible I'd recommend that fine old English custom of public burning of offensive people, but that can't be done anymore so I won't recommend it. But it's something to think about.

7 posted on 07/22/2007 10:37:00 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dighton
Dammit!

I was getting really steamed until I realized that it was an Onion article...

8 posted on 07/22/2007 10:39:45 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: muawiyah
Plenty of Buddhists in good standing eat meat.

Very true.

9 posted on 07/22/2007 10:44:54 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Daffynition

Just name it FAT CATHOLIC, they’ll be fine with that.


10 posted on 07/22/2007 10:45:13 AM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: Daffynition

Buddha is fat!!!Would they have been offended if he named it anorexic Buddha.


11 posted on 07/22/2007 11:37:54 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Daffynition

The man is a Buddhist. It will not offend Buddhists.

It WILL offend food nazis who proclaim that 50% of Europe and soon-to-be 50% of the US are “obese”.


12 posted on 07/22/2007 11:39:50 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: Daffynition

He would’ve named it Happy Buddah but the homosexual activists thought that it slurred gays.


13 posted on 07/22/2007 11:41:00 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: muawiyah

The Dalai Lama even eats veal.


14 posted on 07/22/2007 11:50:39 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: Daffynition
Fat Budda I thought was a term of endearment when referring to a man's lil pot belly.

Hmmm go figure.

How about naming his eatery Fat Fung's
15 posted on 07/22/2007 11:53:00 AM PDT by Global2010 (Oregon Coast our lil town. Nah nah nah nah It's our town.)
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To: Daffynition
How about "Phat Buudha"?

How about "Prosperous Stereotype from 18th Century England Buddha"?

16 posted on 07/22/2007 11:54:48 AM PDT by Bernard (The Fairness Doctrine should be applied to people who follow the rules to come to America legally)
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To: Publius6961

Is Miss Ingle going to pay for the new sign, menu’s ect for a name change?


17 posted on 07/22/2007 11:58:56 AM PDT by Global2010 (Oregon Coast our lil town. Nah nah nah nah It's our town.)
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To: weegee

MMMM Veal. Hard to find around here.

But yummy.


18 posted on 07/22/2007 12:01:47 PM PDT by Global2010 (Oregon Coast our lil town. Nah nah nah nah It's our town.)
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To: EarthBound

Buddhist owner can’t name his own resteraunt “Fat Buddah” due to electorate deeming the name -offensive to buddishts-.

.........

What next? “Everything a Dollar” offends atheists for proclaiming the existance of everything?

“Burger King” is offensive to Henry IIIV supporters...

Piggly Wiggly offends pig farmers...

Happy China offends refugees from communism?


19 posted on 07/22/2007 12:06:51 PM PDT by MacDorcha ("So what if smoking kills me when I'm 80? Who wants to live to 90 anyway?"- SouthPark)
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To: Publius6961
Looney Ms Ingles can be found here. An email link is on the page.
20 posted on 07/22/2007 2:36:22 PM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: Daffynition

And here I thought it would offend the obese.


21 posted on 07/22/2007 2:37:26 PM PDT by sono (Where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence - M Gandhi)
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To: dighton
LOL ...nice find! Perhaps Ms Ingles read that article and believed it.
22 posted on 07/22/2007 2:37:53 PM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: ontap

Or maybe “Big-Boned Buddha”???


23 posted on 07/22/2007 2:39:06 PM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: muawiyah; Bernard; Global2010; weegee
From a blog across the pond.

Let me see if I can encapsulate the thought process coming from Tracey Ingle, head of the city council of Durham, England's cultural services, I imagine it's something like this . . .

I find your lack of offense at the offensive portrayal of an obese Buddha troublesome. Furthermore, would we allow you to depict the Buddha in such a manner, all references to his weight should be in phrases less provocative and more acceptable to our more sensitive modern mores, "Weight Challenged Buddha" or "Pleasantly Plump Buddha" or "Big Boned Buddha" or "I'm Not Fat I'm Just Hefty Buddha" would have all been acceptable.

However I've been informed by Ivor Biggerse the director for the city of Durham's health services that due to the pernicious influence of too many video games and American TV programmes on our children that we are facing an epidemic of obesity in our area, and as such, any positive depictions of 'jolly' fat people would be counterproductive towards the aim of reducing our growing obesity problem. Surely one of the more austere and ascetic depictions of the Buddha would be more appropriate given current health goals.

Actually I need to rethink that last suggestion as I've been informed by Ima Buttinsky from our city's mental health services that there are also many anorexic people in our city, so any depiction of an ascetic Buddha shouldn't be too thin as some of the afflicted might see these depictions and use them for 'thinspiration'.

Also, I'm afraid that the cultural sensitivities of our Islamic neighbours might come into play with the depiction of a figure of worship. As some within their faith believe in the banning of all images of not only Allah, Mohammed, and other lesser prophets, but of any human whatsoever, it would be best if your restaurant has no images within, or uses any images in their advertising of the Buddha.

Actually, given that all variations and body types of the Buddha really can't satisfy all the differing sensitivities in our fine city, it would be best for everyone if you don't open up your restaurant at all. I realise you are poised to employ 60 people in your restaurant, but what's the potential employment of five dozen souls when weighed against the sensitivities of the entire community? Those jobs simply aren't worth the risk of offending one group or another.

I might have ruled differently had the owner of the restaurant not suggested such a provocative name in the first place, but given that initial provocation, my only recourse is to do what I can to prevent this business for operating for the sake of communal cohesion and peace and to preserve out community's reputation for tolerance, understanding, and reason.

Maybe one day when all prejudices, health problems, and religious issues are resolved in a manner that satisfies all parties, we could sit back and laugh or ignore things like a restaurant named "Fat Buddha", but the age we live in is not a time of laughter, and we musn't contribute to the problem of global insensitivity that plagues all aspects of life. I reject the name of your restaurant so that I may be part of the solution, not the problem, I hope everyone else will see the careful and considered reasoning that went into this decision.

24 posted on 07/22/2007 2:49:23 PM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: Daffynition

How ‘bout “Hindu Burger”?

- you want some fries with your dead relative?


25 posted on 07/22/2007 3:11:25 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: Daffynition

So change the name to “Skinny Buddah” and let them argue that one for a while.


26 posted on 07/22/2007 6:06:05 PM PDT by festus (I'm a fRedneck and proud of it.)
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To: Daffynition
"Buddhists don't take offence at anything because to do so doesn't follow Buddhist teachings."

That's true. If I were going to be offended it would be by politically correct idiot liberals like Miss Ingle. Deep neurosis like hers is a major cause of suffering in the world.

Not to capitulate in any way to her emotional disorder; I would still like to offer an alternative name for the restaurant.

The Fat Bureaucrat.

27 posted on 07/24/2007 7:18:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (I'll surrender to love but never to judgment. <> If you surrender to love there is no judgment.)
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To: TigersEye
Deep neurosis like hers is a major cause of suffering in the world.

That might be the ego raising it's ugly head...part of their conditioned consciousness ... It seems to be part of their path to be lost in the world, to be lost in the mind ..."Seek but do not find" ... Transcending the world ...letting go of self-seeking ...a universal path.


28 posted on 07/24/2007 8:29:54 PM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: Daffynition
The path of ego-validation!?! mmm mmm mmm. The path of getting lost in lostness. The yolk will be on them. lol It isn't really funny though. The libs are pretty good at conditioning others into their sickness.

Here's a good thread if you missed it... Idiot Compassion

29 posted on 07/26/2007 11:13:46 AM PDT by TigersEye (I'll surrender to love but never to judgment. <> If you surrender to love there is no judgment.)
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To: TigersEye

Thank you for the link, I left a not so great comment on the thread when it was posted.


30 posted on 07/26/2007 3:05:18 PM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: Daffynition
I would never leave a not so great comment on a FR thread. ;^) /s

I'd come back and make an even bigger mess of it.

31 posted on 07/26/2007 6:24:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: TigersEye
Yep. Sometimes I can make myself laugh at myself.
32 posted on 07/27/2007 6:07:35 AM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: Daffynition

Could we name it “Buff Buddha?”


33 posted on 07/27/2007 6:13:57 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Daffynition

If I’m offending people they can chose not to eat here.

The name stays.

Perhaps the council should disolve because their stupidity offends me?


34 posted on 07/27/2007 6:18:15 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: PJ-Comix
“Buff Buddha” ... "All you Can Eat?"


35 posted on 07/27/2007 6:24:02 AM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: G Larry

See post #20 with a link to Ms. Ingles ... let her know what you think ...like it will do any good.


36 posted on 07/27/2007 6:25:40 AM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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