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Cotton farmer shoots 40 deer
The Memphis Commercial Appeal ^ | 7/28/07 | Alex Doniach

Posted on 07/28/2007 5:04:07 PM PDT by Sybeck1

Whispers started with the first few gunshots.

Neighborhood rumors had it that a cotton farmer who leases land from the Chickasaw Basin Authority near the Wolf River was shooting deer on the property.

So when residents discovered nearly 40 of the animals had been killed and left to rot in the surrounding woods, they reacted with horror.

"I don't like to see (deer) slaughtered, and that's what happened down there in these cotton fields," said Brenda Flanagan, a nearby resident. "To me it's inhumane. ... What's gone is gone, and I would hate to see that ever happen again."

Angry neighbors also cited safety concerns.

"Our first concern was the brutality of killing those animals," said Arthur Wolff, who owns property on Bethany Road, a shady street that dead ends into the sprawling cotton farm. "Then there was the safety issue of shooting deer so close to people's homes."

Wolff, along with other angry residents, called officials from the Chickasaw Basin Authority (CBA), a state agency dealing with flood-control and drainage in a three-county area. The CBA owns a 600-acre patch of land near Collierville's annexation reserve in unincorporated Shelby County.

It turns out the farmer had been given permission by the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency (TWRA) to kill deer that were destroying his crops.

But as a result of the community's response, CBA's chairman, Charles Perkins, said they became aware of the safety issues and pulled the permit until further notice.

"We just thought it was a health concern and a safety concern because of the populated area being so close in proximity," Perkins said. "We put a stop to it."

Farmer David Ciarloni, who leases the 200 acres, is not happy about the decision, but he's going to wait to see what can be negotiated with the CBA.

He said the deer population has escalated in recent years, wreaking havoc on his cotton crop.

"It's not going to stop, and it will make this farm impossible to farm in the future," he said.

Although Ciarloni won't know the extent of damage until harvest time, he's estimated 30 percent to 50 percent crop damage. "It's an astronomical increase from last year."

Ciarloni grew frustrated with the deer problem a few months ago and contacted his landlord, the CBA, for a permit to kill the deer.

Ted Fox, the county's public works director who doubles as the CBA's executive director, said he sent a county employee out to examine the damage.

The employee corroborated Ciarloni's story -- that deer had eaten away at about 30 percent of the crop. Fox contacted the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency, which issues hunting permits.

Gary Cook, TWRA's regional manager in West Tennessee, said state legislation allows farmers to receive hunting permits if they can prove significant crop loss. Called a "depredation permit," this license allows farmers to kill wildlife such as birds or deer that are causing damage to public or private property.

"It happens all over Tennessee on a regular basis," Cook said. "This is not something rare or unusual."

Each year, TWRA issues anywhere from about three to 10 permits to landowners in Shelby County. Last year, it issued 11.

A permit was issued to the CBA after TWRA officers sent to Ciarloni's farm noted significant crop loss and 81 deer.

Ronnie Shannon of TWRA said that contrary to popular belief, deer have been known to eat newer strains of cotton, called "Roundup Ready" cotton that has a salty taste. And because there's limited hunting in the county, the deer population has grown in recent years.

TWRA officials relayed this information to the CBA board, which voted unanimously to thin the herd during a two-week period.

Perkins, CBA's chairman, said the TWRA warden showed up to the meeting in uniform and with his rifle, leading him to assume that the officer -- not Ciarloni -- would be handling the problem.

"We thought the TWRA was going to handle the eradication," Perkins said. "We thought they were going to be onsite to supervise or do it themselves."

He was surprised to discover Ciarloni had taken a shotgun and killed the animals himself.

Perkins also discovered their bodies had been dragged off the cotton fields and into nearby wooded areas to rot.

"That concerned us because of the scavengers, the possibility of the coyotes moving into that area, the buzzards and the smell," Perkins said. "It was a general health concern."

Fox called Ciarloni and put a hold on the permit. The CBA held a meeting Tuesday to discuss the issue.

During that session, the CBA heard testimony from Wolff and other concerned residents, who complained of safety and health risks for the surrounding residents.

Perkins said the license will be pulled until further notice, but something will have to be done eventually to deal with the deer population.

And of the system chosen to hunt the deer, he said residents probably won't be happy about it.

"I personally am leaning toward a limited hunting situation although I suspect neighbors won't like that," he said. "This is a serious problem in Shelby County."

-- Alex Doniach: 529-5231

Copyright 2007, commercialappeal.com - Memphis, TN. All Rights Reserved.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: animalrights; bambi; deerarebeautiful; environment; excessive; farming; iliketokilldeer; ohdeer; oversizedrats; rodents
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Deer are thick and Shelby count doesn't allow rifle hunting I believe.
1 posted on 07/28/2007 5:04:08 PM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: Sybeck1

Why not spray the cotton with something that tastes bad to deer?


2 posted on 07/28/2007 5:06:47 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (The last Americans to allow unchecked immigration...... were Native.)
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To: Sybeck1

Totally legal and justified by the farmer. Deer are nothing more than pests in a good part of the U.S., little more than wild cattle.


3 posted on 07/28/2007 5:07:03 PM PDT by gotribe ("Truly, America is my favorite slave." - King Fahd Bin Abdul-Aziz, Jeddeh 1993)
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To: Sybeck1

Shelby county, home of the Ford Family.


4 posted on 07/28/2007 5:08:04 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Sybeck1

Shotgun. Probably not a danger to nearby residents. Darned waste of good meat, though.


5 posted on 07/28/2007 5:09:58 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (A man who will not defend himself does not deserve to be defended by others.)
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To: Sybeck1
deer= rats with antlers...

dumbasses... wait till they get a nice outbreak of Lyme's disease and want the government to "do something"..like kill the deer that carry the vector..

typical lib feel bad story.

By the way that makes 40 deer that have died since Bush declared an end to hostilities in Iraq.

6 posted on 07/28/2007 5:10:47 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: gotribe
This scene is what started it all:


7 posted on 07/28/2007 5:12:14 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Sybeck1; GladesGuru

The only thing I see any problem with is that if they have hungry people in town, no reason to waste good meat. Sometimes a thinning of the herd is needed to save the base population from starving. If we don’t thin, other predators will move in to do the job, then libs will be up in arms about why are the predators here? Maybe they could then a few libs too(sarc)?


8 posted on 07/28/2007 5:12:35 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Duncan Hunter for president!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

You’d rather the buzzards starved?


9 posted on 07/28/2007 5:13:09 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: gotribe

The only thing he did wrong was leaving the carcasses to rot. Give them to the food bank if nothing else.


10 posted on 07/28/2007 5:13:46 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Hey! Must be a devil between us)
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To: Old Professer
You’d rather the buzzards starved?

So you're recommending that we Super-Size the buzzards?

11 posted on 07/28/2007 5:14:35 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (A man who will not defend himself does not deserve to be defended by others.)
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To: Sybeck1

Deer in close proximity to man, are simply huge rats with antlers and a hazard to drivers.


12 posted on 07/28/2007 5:14:52 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: GATOR NAVY
True. We(Hunt Club) always donate any extras.

Deer now are a nuisance in some areas. Same with Nonmigratory Canadian Geese.

13 posted on 07/28/2007 5:15:24 PM PDT by BGHater (Bread and Circuses)
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To: Jeff Chandler

With fries.


14 posted on 07/28/2007 5:15:49 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: gotribe

I get so tired of people who just don’t understand nature.

They’re concerned about DEAD DEER attracting predators? That’s a laugh. LIVE DEER attract them just as much.

What about people who have to drive on those roads with that huge deer population?

What is the matter with those people?


15 posted on 07/28/2007 5:19:53 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Mikey_1962

“Why not spray the cotton with something that tastes bad to deer?”

Looks like he did, lead.

Its nice to see that there is a comprehensive wildlife management plan in the area.


16 posted on 07/28/2007 5:20:17 PM PDT by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: Mikey_1962

Why not just leave the guy alone and let him shoot the deer?


17 posted on 07/28/2007 5:20:51 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Sybeck1
..."To me it's inhumane. ...

Since deer aren't human wouldn't it be "indeerane"?

18 posted on 07/28/2007 5:22:16 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Boomchakalakalaka Boomchakalakalaka)
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To: Steamburg
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19 posted on 07/28/2007 5:23:02 PM PDT by FearlessFreep (Excuse me. But are those your legs or are you riding a chicken?)
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To: Mikey_1962

Why not harvest the deer?


20 posted on 07/28/2007 5:23:05 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Sybeck1

This is a test.

This afternoon, I am not making this up, our house took a HUGE lightening strike.
We lost, again I...
I’m not making this up
..two computers, one was my home network server.
...two TV’s.
...our garage door opener
...the ceiling fan in our living room will not turn off.

So I got this portable computer and it’s so old the only browser that will work with it is Opera.

You can’t make this stuff up.....


21 posted on 07/28/2007 5:25:17 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: Jeff Chandler

waste of good meat

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Yup. damn shame.


22 posted on 07/28/2007 5:25:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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To: Jeff Chandler

True enough. He could’ve done SOMETHING with the venison instead of leaving it to the flies.


23 posted on 07/28/2007 5:25:36 PM PDT by OKSooner ("I say, America, stay out da Bushes! Stay out da Bushes! Stay out da Bushes! Stay out da Bushes!")
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To: BGHater
Deer now are a nuisance in some areas. Same with Nonmigratory Canadian Geese. And nonmigratory illegal aliens!
24 posted on 07/28/2007 5:26:35 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: river rat

We had a good friend killed when a deer went through his windshield. We were on the Trace several years ago and a deer jumped the car which was in front of us. I had never seen a deer jump like that.


25 posted on 07/28/2007 5:26:39 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Jeff Chandler
Darned waste of good meat, though.

That's the only thing I object to here.

26 posted on 07/28/2007 5:26:49 PM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Sybeck1

I guess the farmer had grown tired of “those cotton pickin deer.”


27 posted on 07/28/2007 5:28:07 PM PDT by Kimmers (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Sybeck1

>> “Our first concern was the brutality of killing those animals,” said Arthur Wolff, who owns property on Bethany Road, a shady street that dead ends into the sprawling cotton farm.

Bet you anything Farmer Ciarloni was there long before this Wolff wuss.


28 posted on 07/28/2007 5:28:53 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: GATOR NAVY
The only thing he did wrong was leaving the carcasses to rot. Give them to the food bank if nothing else.

And assume the liability if the deer were diseased? In today's lawyered America, it's unlikely to happen

29 posted on 07/28/2007 5:29:06 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Open Season rocks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLJz3N8ayI)
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To: Sybeck1

Oh dear!


30 posted on 07/28/2007 5:29:19 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: Sybeck1

The other day a co-worker complained about the hunting of deer in our area. She blamed the deer problems on “sprawl”, but I pointed out that the population of deer in our area is 6000% higher than it was 50 years ago, whereas the human population has only grown by about 15%.


31 posted on 07/28/2007 5:29:19 PM PDT by gunservative
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To: Mikey_1962
Ronnie Shannon of TWRA said that contrary to popular belief, deer have been known to eat newer strains of cotton, called "Roundup Ready" cotton that has a salty taste.

I was thinking that instead of just letting the deer rot, they could be used as food. But after reading about them eating Roundup Ready cotton, I'm not so sure anymore.

32 posted on 07/28/2007 5:29:27 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Fishtalk

I have no idea why we lost the variety of thing we did and who knows what else we’ll find.

I heard this loud boom and all I can tell you, when you hear it you know what it is.

The two tv’s were little things but they were hook to our cable hookup. Two other tv’s are okay. They are hooked to another thing....whatever is used that can be recorded from.

The two computers were hooked to the cable as well. They were both ON. One computer, a major one, was off and it’s working fine.

The garage door opener? I can’t explain this except, hey, where that lightening hit, and I actually saw smoke, was right by the garage. In fact at first I thought our air conditioner took a hit.

The living room fan? It’s crazy. We figured out how to work around it but it’s a pain.

Also breakers blew and some of the individual electrical outlets have little circuit breaker things on them and some of THEN had to be reset.

Monday I’m going to talk to the insurance company but I wonder if they’ll ever believe this.


33 posted on 07/28/2007 5:29:59 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: Eaker

Never whack more than you can pack ping.


34 posted on 07/28/2007 5:30:36 PM PDT by humblegunner (Word up!)
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To: Dick Vomer
Yep, and...

Does and fawns hit hardest....

35 posted on 07/28/2007 5:30:56 PM PDT by skimbell (Conservatism Works)
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To: Issaquahking; Jeff Chandler

Is it safe to eat deer that have been eating Roundup Ready cotton?

Gag.


36 posted on 07/28/2007 5:30:56 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Sybeck1

http://www.car-accidents.com/pages/accident_story/10-14-02.html


37 posted on 07/28/2007 5:31:55 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Sybeck1
Ciarloni had taken a shotgun and killed the animals himself.

Good for him! Given the number he shot, I'm sure thats why he didn't decide to have them processed and perhaps given to shelters.

Nevertheless, I support this guy wholeheartedly........

38 posted on 07/28/2007 5:32:19 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (If your cat was big enough it would probably eat you)
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To: Sybeck1

39 posted on 07/28/2007 5:32:27 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Hil<I>The Whlary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: Mikey_1962; SortaBichy
Why not spray the cotton with something that tastes bad to deer?

We don't have deer in our desert, but the past few years we've obtained citrus-grabbing squirrels......so I go pee at the base of the trees.

It really ticks off wifey and the local patrol cops, but they live with it.

(They're front yard trees, and I haven't quite gotten around to walling the property yet.....)

40 posted on 07/28/2007 5:32:59 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Sybeck1
If he's not going to donate the meat, at least get out the backhoe and bury 'em...
41 posted on 07/28/2007 5:33:29 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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To: ErnBatavia

Tree rats are just as bad. I kill everyone I can get my sites on.


42 posted on 07/28/2007 5:34:13 PM PDT by FearlessFreep (Excuse me. But are those your legs or are you riding a chicken?)
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To: Sybeck1

I have heard that there are states that will allow a farmer to kill deer that are destroying crops, but he’s not allowed to process it once he kills it. In fact, no one’s allowed to have it.

What a waste.

I wonder if there is such a requirement in Tenn.


43 posted on 07/28/2007 5:34:14 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
No, TWRA does not require deer kiled with a copr Depridation permit to be left to rot. They encourage peopel to use or give the meat away.
44 posted on 07/28/2007 5:36:04 PM PDT by CrappieLuck
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To: metmom

Bill the libs for the testing...Someone has to be happy to have a meal of something less than veal.


45 posted on 07/28/2007 5:36:24 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Duncan Hunter for president!)
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To: FReepaholic; Sybeck1
..."To me it's inhumane. ...

Since deer aren't human wouldn't it be "indeerane"?

Naah, just "inane"... /grin

46 posted on 07/28/2007 5:44:52 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: Hot Tabasco

Agreed, if he was able to go out and kill forty deer with a shotgun, there definitely were too many deer.


47 posted on 07/28/2007 5:45:44 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: Mikey_1962
Why not spray the cotton with something that tastes bad to deer?

No such thing! My sister and brother-in-law have a summer home in northern michigan in a very upscale area and they have literally lost thousands of dollars of landscaping due to the dear population which can not be hunted in that resort area. As a result, he has put up motion detectors around the house which emit a high pitch sound, he has installed an electric fence around select plantings, and all this hasn't done one damn thing to deter these antlered rats.........

And for the record, here in Michigan there are over 60,000 deer/vehicle accidents a year and the numbers are increasing.........

The damn things are everywhere........Just like all those products that you can spray on your plants to deter rabbits, none of that crap works because they don't have taste buds..........

48 posted on 07/28/2007 5:45:57 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (If your cat was big enough it would probably eat you)
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To: Sybeck1

Much ado about nothing. The excessive deer population is a problem and at least someone is trying to take care of the situation. The coyote population is also a real problem in this area. The farmers in my area don’t even plant some fields because if they do, the yield is sparse do to the damage done by the deer.


49 posted on 07/28/2007 5:49:08 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Sybeck1

Well-managed hunting provides for a sensible thinning of the herd...this is ham-handed game management at its bureaucratic worst.


50 posted on 07/28/2007 5:49:29 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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