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Walter F. Mondale: The man behind the curtain (49 state loser speaks about Bush-Cheney)
Minneapolis StarTribune (aka The Red Star) ^ | 8/01/07 | Walter F Mondale

Posted on 08/01/2007 8:58:35 AM PDT by MplsSteve

T he Washington Post's recent series on Dick Cheney's vice presidency certainly got my attention. Having held that office myself over a quarter-century ago, I have more than a passing interest in its evolution from the backwater of American politics to the second most powerful position in our government. Almost all of that evolution, under presidents and vice presidents of both parties, has been positive -- until now. Under George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, it has gone seriously off track.

The founders created the vice presidency as a constitutional afterthought, solely to provide a president-in-reserve should the need arise. The only duty they specified was that the vice president should preside over the Senate. The office languished in obscurity and irrelevance for more than 150 years until Richard Nixon saw it as a platform from which to seek the Republican presidential nomination in 1960. That worked, and the office has been an effective launching pad for aspiring candidates since.

But it wasn't until Jimmy Carter assumed the presidency that the vice presidency took on a substantive role. Carter saw the office as an underused asset and set out to make the most of it. He gave me an office in the West Wing, unimpeded access to him and to the flow of information, and specific assignments at home and abroad. He asked me, as the only other nationally elected official, to be his adviser and partner on a range of issues.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bushbashing; editorial; minnesota; mondale
Well, the 49-state loser speaks!

I could find a number of things wrong with this op/ed piece by crusty Fritz Mondale - but I'll let my fellow Freepers tear it apart.

Comments or opinions - anyone?

1 posted on 08/01/2007 8:58:38 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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2 posted on 08/01/2007 8:59:50 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve

Actually if you throw in his failed Senate campaign, he’s a 50-state loser.


3 posted on 08/01/2007 9:01:55 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: MplsSteve

The man live in a delusional world. I remember the Carter years, Mondale must have been living somewhere else.


4 posted on 08/01/2007 9:02:15 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: svcw

“Since the Carter administration left office, we have been criticized for many things. Yet I remain enormously proud of what we did in those four years, especially that we told the truth, obeyed the law and kept the peace.”


It’s interesting to hear Mondale talk about how they kept the peace. The roots of today’s Islamo-fascism arguably can be traced to the Iranian revolution when Jimmy was president. And our weak response to the hostage crisis technically may have kept the peace in a troubled part of the world, but may have helped lead to where we are today.

heck, Bill Clinton “kept the peace” in the ‘90s by never responding to terrorists attacks against America overseas and treating the 1st World Trade Center bombing as simply a criminal matter, not an act of war by terrorists. And Bill Clinton “keeping the peace” arguably helped lead to what happened on Sept. 11th.


5 posted on 08/01/2007 9:11:56 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: MplsSteve
But it wasn't until Jimmy Carter assumed the presidency that the vice presidency took on a substantive role.

With Carter as President of course it would take on a bigger role to take up the slack.

Sadly enough however Fritz was the one taking up the slack and was just as bad as Carter.

6 posted on 08/01/2007 9:14:05 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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7 posted on 08/01/2007 9:15:10 AM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton

I knew Minnesota could be a “Red” state!


8 posted on 08/01/2007 9:16:36 AM PDT by voteNRA
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To: Dilbert San Diego
“Since the Carter administration left office, we have been criticized for many things".

You both were criticized long before you left office for your political buffoonery.

9 posted on 08/01/2007 9:18:01 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: voteNRA
I knew Minnesota could be a “Red” state!

My property is not big enough to show up in blue without extreme resolution capabilities. ; )

10 posted on 08/01/2007 9:22:07 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: dighton

The good old days when the GOP was designated in blue and the Dems in commie red. Those were the traditional color designations in every election up ‘til 2000, when the TV media made a concerted effort to eradicate the Dems = Reds association. ....quite successfully, as it turned out.


11 posted on 08/01/2007 9:22:32 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: MplsSteve

i recently met a woman from minnesota and she is left of left.

cheney is a doer.

that’s the difference.

mondale is not a doer.


12 posted on 08/01/2007 9:26:00 AM PDT by ken21 (b 4 fred.)
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To: MplsSteve
Geeze...he even lost MASSACHUSETTS! What a maroon!
13 posted on 08/01/2007 9:43:02 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: MplsSteve
Hell, Mondale couldn’t even keep his daughter from being “served up” to Clinton as an after dinner tart.....

Now - this loser is telling America what and how we should think?

Will anyone save the Republic from these leftist bastards?

This linked "Time Line" is from the Leftist and Liberal Loving WASHINGTON POST:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/timeline.htm

14 posted on 08/01/2007 10:13:05 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Yet I remain enormously proud of what we did in those four years, especially that we told the truth, obeyed the law and kept the peace.”

Yeah, and Hitler was a dog-lover who eliminated German unemployment. Mondale, Carter, McGovern - the dementia-addled wing of the democratic party....

15 posted on 08/01/2007 10:14:01 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: MplsSteve
Well, the 49-state loser speaks!

In 2004, he lost his 50th state.

16 posted on 08/01/2007 10:14:20 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Dems '08 choices are a Manly woman, a Womanly man, or a Child Senator)
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To: EGPWS
But it wasn't until Jimmy Carter assumed the presidency that the vice presidency took on a substantive role.

That's because Jimmuh was busy overseeing the White House tennis court scheduling....

17 posted on 08/01/2007 10:15:08 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I really think that Carter and Mondale have peanut butter rather than grey matter for brains.


18 posted on 08/01/2007 10:34:12 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Rummyfan
That's because Jimmuh was busy overseeing the White House tennis court scheduling....

And he even screwed that up and the court wound up with a shortage balls...too.

19 posted on 08/01/2007 10:35:04 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Geeze...he even lost MASSACHUSETTS!

Even his friends hated him.

LOL!

20 posted on 08/01/2007 10:37:07 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: svcw
I really think that Carter and Mondale have peanut butter rather than grey matter for brains.

At least Carter has an excuse.

There was money in peanuts for him.

21 posted on 08/01/2007 10:39:04 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: MplsSteve
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22 posted on 08/01/2007 12:00:25 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: MplsSteve

In light of the fact that Mondale was one of our country’s biggest losers, why would any media outlet promote his views on anything? He was alway wrong; he continues to be wrong. Mondale must be a man who never looks in the mirror!


23 posted on 08/01/2007 3:23:42 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: MplsSteve

“The office languished in obscurity and irrelevance for more than 150 years until Richard Nixon saw it as a platform from which to seek the Republican presidential nomination in 1960. That worked, and the office has been an effective launching pad for aspiring candidates since.”

Load of crap. This was going on long before Nixon.

Vice Presidents Who Assumed The Presidency Due To Presidential Death Or Resignation:
John Tyler
Millard Fillmore
Andrew Johnson
Chester Arthur
Theodore Roosevelt
Calvin Coolidge
Harry Truman
Lyndon Johnson
Gerald Ford

20th Century Vice Presidents Who Secured Their Parties Nomination For President:
Theodore Roosevelt
Calvin Coolidge
Harry Truman
Richard Nixon
Lyndon Johnson
Hubert Humphrey
Gerald Ford
Walter Mondale
George H.W. Bush
Al Gore

20th Century Vice Presidents Who Became President Through Election:
Theodore Roosevelt
Calvin Coolidge
Harry Truman
Richard Nixon
Lyndon Johnson
George H.W. Bush

19th Century Vice Presidents Who Became President Through Election:
Martin Van Buren

Vice Presidents Nominated for President of the United States who lost the general election:
Al Gore (1993-2001) » 2000
George H.W. Bush (1981-1989) » 1992
Walter Mondale (1977-1981) » 1984
Gerald Ford (1973-1974) » 1976
Hubert Humphrey (1965-1969) » 1968
Richard Nixon (1953-1961) » 1960
Theodore Roosevelt (1901) » 1912
John Breckinridge (1857-1861) » 1860
John Adams (1789-1797) » 1800

The Vice Presidents after they left the Vice Presidency:
John Adams » President
Thomas Jefferson » President
Aaron Burr » Private Citizen
George Clinton » Died in Office
Elbridge Gerry » Died in Office
Daniel Tompkins » Private Citizen
John Calhoun » U.S. Senate
Martin Van Buren » President
Richard Johnson » Private Citizen
John Tyler » President
George Dallas » Private Citizen
Millard Fillmore » President
William King » Died in Office
John Breckinridge » Private Citizen
Hannibal Hamlin » U.S. Senate
Andrew Johnson » President
Schuyler Colfax » Private Citizen
Henry Wilson » Died in Office
William Wheeler » Private Citizen
Thomas Hendricks » Died in Office
Chester Arthur » President
Levi Morton » Private Citizen
Adlai Stevenson » Private Citizen
Garret Hobart » Died in Office
Theodore Roosevelt » President
Charles Fairbanks » Private Citizen
James Sherman » Died in Office
Thomas Marshall » Private Citizen
Calvin Coolidge » President
Charles Dawes » Private Citizen
Charles Curtis » Private Citizen
John Nance Garner » Private Citizen
Henry Wallace » Private Citizen
Harry Truman » President
Alben Barkley » Private Citizen
Richard Nixon » Private Citizen / President
Lyndon Johnson » President
Hubert Humphrey » U.S. Senator
Spiro Agnew » Private Citizen
Gerald Ford » President
Nelson Rockefeller » Private Citizen
Walter Mondale » Private Citizen
George H.W. Bush » President
Dan Quayle » Private Citizen
Al Gore » Private Citizen

Vice Presidents that failed to complete their terms in office:
George Clinton » Died in Office
Elbridge Gerry » Died in Office
John Calhoun » Resigned
John Tyler » Assumed Presidency
Millard Fillmore » Assumed Presidency
William King » Died in Office
Andrew Johnson » Assumed Presidency
Henry Wilson » Died in Office
Chester Arthur » Assumed Presidency
Thomas Hendricks » Died in Office
Garret Hobart » Died in Office
Theodore Roosevelt » Assumed Presidency
James Sherman » Died in Office
Calvin Coolidge » Assumed Presidency
Harry Truman » Assumed Presidency
Lyndon Johnson » Assumed Presidency
Spiro Agnew » Resigned
Gerald Ford » Assumed Presidency

http://www.vicepresidents.com/history/


24 posted on 08/01/2007 4:32:28 PM PDT by lowbridge
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