1998 was Colder than 1934...in 2002? (GISS Data Falsehood Before the Recent Scandal? FR EXCLUSIVE)

Web Archive and GISS ^ | 08/12/2007 | Ultra Sonic 007

[Ultra Sonic 007]

For your consumption, fellow FReepers. Spread the word.

Hope the mods don't mind that this is in Front Page, but this is big.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Global warming ping.

A new scandal?

[JRios1968]

Hope the mods don't mind that this is in Front Page, but this is big.

Not just big, it's HUGH!

[MrEdd]

Are you series?

Am I logged on?

[Ultra Sonic 007]

It’s not just hugh and series, it’s figantice! :O

[shield]

HA....the glo warmers have been exposed...their agenda is NO more...it’s dying an ugly death...HA

[darkangel82]

Government lied? Noooo, really.

[JRios1968]

[sourcery]

Basic References:

• Hostages to a hoax
• Water Experts Find Earth’s Warming, Rainfall Linked to Sun
• Milankovitch Cycles and Glaciation
• The Myth of Dangerous Human-Caused Climate Change (PDF)
• Up against the warming zealots
• When Physics Trumps Hysteria in Global Warming
• Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide
• Global Warming: Forecasts by Scientists versus Scientific Forecasts
• Geophysical, archeological and historical evidence support a solar-output model for climate change (PDF)
• Gamma rays and climate (PDF)
• Temperature vs. Cosmic Ray Flux
• Linkages between solar activity, climate predictability and water resource development (PDF)
• Proof on Ice: Southern Greenland Was Once Green; Earth Warmer
• Global Warming and Nature's Thermostat
• The Past and Future of Climate (PDF)
• The Great Global Warming Swindle
• IceCap

Lawrence Solomon's "The Deniers" (a series of articles on the view of scientists who have been labelled "Global Warming Deniers"):

• Science, not politics
• Statistics needed
• The original denier: into the cold
• End the chill
• They call this a consensus?
• The limits of predictability
• Unsettled science
• Models trump measurements
• The ice-core man
• The hurricane expert who stood up to UN junk science
• Polar scientists on thin ice
• The sun moves climate change
• Bright sun, warm Earth. Coincidence?
• Look to Mars for the truth on global warming
• Read the sunspots
• Forget warming - beware the new ice age
• Little Ice Age is still with us
• Fighting climate 'fluff'

Other References:

• Alarmist global warming claims melt under scientific scrutiny
• The Global Warming Myth
• Global Warming: A Chilling Perspective
• Father of Climatology Throws Up at the Thought of Al Gore's 'An Inconvenient Truth'
• IPCC Scientists Challenge Al Gore’s View of Global Warming Consensus
• Swedish Scientist Accuses UN's IPCC of Falsifying Data and Destroying Evidence
• CO2 Science
• Global Warming and Climate Forcing by Recent Albedo Changes on Mars
• Climate Momentum Shifting: Prominent Scientists Reverse Belief in Man-made Global Warming - Now Skeptics
• The Real 'Inconvenient Truth'
• New findings indicate today's greenhouse gas levels not unusual
• Climate Change: Incorrect information on pre-industrial CO2
• Global Warming as a Religion
• I Was On the Global Warming Gravy Train (By David Evans)
• Global Warming: it's not caused by greenhouse gases says academic
• Still Waiting for Greenhouse
• GREENIE WATCH
• Why Global Warming Would be Good for You
• Global Warming Primer (PDF)
• Global Warming: An Official Pseudoscience
• Sun's Output Increasing in Possible Trend Fueling Global Warming
• Fiddler On The Roof
• Debating Global Warming
• Climate Resistance

[texas booster]

Nice to see a sabermatrician with a little time on your hands.

If the data showed the we are continually getting warmer, then we need to look at the cycle. If the data shows that we are getting colder then we look at the data from a different direction.

This is how the original discoveries of climate cycles were discovered, and why climatologists can look back over many years and do basic research.

When the data is falsified in any area then the conclusions are questioned. Look at human genetics for what happens to scientists that “push” data to prove a point.

There is no realistic peer review of global warming (or cooling) because the discipline has become a religion and the reviewers are all koolaid drinkers.

Keep up the good work and don’t stop publishing. One day the Wayback Machine may be mysteriously edited and these figures will not be there. Shades of Orwell.

[Mikey_1962]

Do you really trust temperature data from more that 50 years ago to two decimal places???

Then accounting for statistical error, I don’t put much faith in these data at all.

[bahblahbah]

Tread lightly with this. I’m not sure what process they’re using since they won’t tell anyone, but this might be explainable.

[saganite]

It will be interesting to hear GISS’s explanation.

[Kirkwood]

You have too much time on your hands.

[G8 Diplomat]

Someone e-mail this to Al Gore

[Ultra Sonic 007]

That’s precisely the point.

This data is used to determine public policy that affects EVERYONE: you, me, our fellow FReepers, and other American citizens.

If the data’s faulty, and it’s being used to perpetuate a contradictory policy anyway, it needs to be none.

Still, as BBB pointed out, it might be explainable; if so, then there we go.

[hometoroost]

Talk about an Inconvenient Truth!

[Ultra Sonic 007]

I just got done with finals, and this whole recent scandal with GISS triggered my curiosity.

[steelyourfaith]

ping

[Danae]

Its HUGH and SERIES!!!

Really it is!

Al Gore and his cronies are out for MONEY, they have to HEAT those multi-million dollar mansions you know!!!