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Debate on lower drinking age bubbling up
MSNBC ^ | Aug 14, 2007 | Alex Johnson

Posted on 08/14/2007 4:12:49 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde

Over the strong objection of federal safety officials, a quiet movement to lower the legal drinking age to 18 is taking root as advocates argue that teenagers who are allowed to vote and fight for their country should also be able to enjoy a beer or two.

The proposal, which is the subject of a national petition drive by the National Youth Rights Association, has been studied in a handful of states in recent years, including Florida, Wisconsin, Vermont and Missouri, where supporters are pushing a ballot initiative.

Opponents of the idea point to a reported rise in binge drinking as teenagers increasingly turn to hard liquor as proof that minors should not be allowed to drink, but proponents look at the same data and draw the opposite conclusion.

“Raising the drinking age to 21 was passed with the very best of intentions, but it’s had the very worst of outcomes,” said David J. Hanson, an alcohol policy expert at the State University of New York-Potsdam. “Just like during national Prohibition, the law has pushed and forced underage drinking and youthful drinking underground, where we have no control over it.”

But Mark Rosenker, chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board, countered: “Why would we repeal or weaken laws that save lives? It doesn’t make sense.”

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TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: alcohol; beer; drinking; libertarians; liquor; seenbetterheads
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Thoughts? If I remember correctly it is only 7 states that out and out ban drinking under 21. The rest allow it with some restriction such as have to be with parents.
1 posted on 08/14/2007 4:12:53 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde
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“Over the strong objection of federal safety officials, a quiet movement to lower the legal drinking age to 18 is taking root as advocates argue that teenagers who are allowed to vote and fight for their country should also be able to enjoy a beer or two.”

Let those willing to fight for their country drink at age 18. As for the rest of the cowards ... let em wait till they are more mature.


2 posted on 08/14/2007 4:16:16 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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The infamous facist police state of Germany has a drinking age of 16.

Thank God we live in a free country, where it is 21.


3 posted on 08/14/2007 4:16:58 PM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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Pfft. Let them vote for change if they so desire. 18 year olds want a lot of things. Get off your ass and get it.
4 posted on 08/14/2007 4:19:38 PM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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The infamous facist police state of Germany has a drinking age of 16.

Are you sure? I was in Germany when I was 15 and had no trouble buying beer. Of course this was 1971. I always thought there was no age restriction in Europe.

5 posted on 08/14/2007 4:25:53 PM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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It doesn't appear that it is really 18 year olds leading this charge. It is older people who see that the 21 age limit does no good and may do harm.

Why should an 18 year old care all that much? There is a very good chance they are in college or at the very least know someone who is 21 and will buy them alcohol. The fact remains that lowering the drinking age could have some very real benefits.
6 posted on 08/14/2007 4:28:21 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: 6ppc

I think there are age restrictions, but with varying degrees of enforcement.


7 posted on 08/14/2007 4:28:59 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: nmh

So anyone who is not or has not been in the army is a coward?


8 posted on 08/14/2007 4:30:17 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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I know that the law definitely stopped me from drinking before I was 21.

(rolls eyes)

9 posted on 08/14/2007 4:32:48 PM PDT by SIDENET (Is it too early for flapjacks?)
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Yes, I am sure - I took my kids there a few months age.

At 18, no restrictions - this was important to my son, who turned 18 while there.

At 16, no restrictions on bier.

At 12, you may drink bier, if your parents are present.

But thank God, we live in a free country, where these things are illegal.

(And yes, the age restrictions are new - twenty years ago, there were none.)


10 posted on 08/14/2007 4:34:33 PM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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At 18 you are an adult.

It is not logical to say you are an adult in all but one area. Either lower the drinking age to 18 or raise the age of adulthood to 21.

11 posted on 08/14/2007 4:35:16 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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I remember when the drinking age was 18. It was after the Bicentennial of 1976 it was changed. I just wonder how this country ever survived to last till now, when such a long period of its history 18yr olds were allowed to drink.

The only thing that is different today, is that people then were willing to take responsibility for their actions, even when they were drunk. Now, we have Lawyers to “protect” us from the consequences of our own stupids decisions.

12 posted on 08/14/2007 4:38:42 PM PDT by MCCRon58 (A man unwilling to fight for freedom and liberty, deserve neither. (Ain't much of a man, either))
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Hmmm. Wonder how I’d vote on this.


13 posted on 08/14/2007 4:38:45 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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I’ve always believed that if you’re old enough to die for your country, you’re old enough for a fscking’ beer.


14 posted on 08/14/2007 4:39:03 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Exactly! You nailed it, HTB.


15 posted on 08/14/2007 4:42:09 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: Mr. Blonde

I think the drinking age should be 19, as well as gambling, viewing porn, smoking, enlisting in the military, voting, etc.


16 posted on 08/14/2007 4:42:26 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: MCCRon58

I am not going to lay the blame at the feet of lawyers on this one. It is more special interest groups with axes to grind that we have to think for this. Like MADD.


17 posted on 08/14/2007 4:43:59 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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Those "teenagers" they are talking about are legal adults who can vote and killed defending their country. They can engage in contracts and own property. I guess it's too much to grant them full access to rights and responsibilities.

The federal highway funds were used to make the states roll over on this issue or there would be many 18 year olds who would already be full citizens.

18 posted on 08/14/2007 4:47:03 PM PDT by pierstroll
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“The legal age for alcohol in the USA is 21 years old. The National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 required all states to raise their minimum purchase and public possession of alcohol age to 21. States that did not comply faced a reduction in highway funds under the Federal Highway Aid Act. The U.S. Department of Transportation has determined that all states are in compliance with this act. The national law specifically prohibits purchase and public possession of alcoholic beverages. It does not prohibit persons under 21 (also called youth or minors) from drinking.”

State laws vary.


19 posted on 08/14/2007 4:49:49 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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MADD, Now there is a group near and dear to a litigators black little heart.

Perhaps its time to revive the group’ “Drivers Against MADD” mothers. (DAMMADD)


20 posted on 08/14/2007 5:03:42 PM PDT by MCCRon58 (A man unwilling to fight for freedom and liberty, deserve neither. (Ain't much of a man, either))
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