Posted on 08/30/2007 9:39:57 PM PDT by GunnyBob
Last night on TOF on FNC, Ted Nugent claimed he was a Marine. I can find no evidence to support this but I could be missing something.
Someone want to help me out here?
--Gunny Bob
Occurs @ ~ the 2:46 remaining mark of the clip. Nothing on the web indicates that he ever served in any branch. Perhaps his dad was a Marine since his biography states "while his disciplinarian father passed his beliefs down to Nugent."
I think he hits the nail on the head, don’t you? If you are going to swing, you go for contact!
We had the “crapped his pants” thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1887384/posts
Then an unspecified “local station” where Ted refutes
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1887742/posts
Unless someone is claiming this quote is fabricated also, I don’t know what else he would be referring to as his “guilt and embarrassment”.
TED NUGENT insists he has paid his dues for avoiding the draft to fight in Vietnam - he spent “a couple of weeks ready to rock” with a giant machine gun in Afghanistan two years ago (04). The Republican rocker feels awful about avoiding the army in the late 1960s and early 1970s, but he believes he has more than made up for it. He says, “Do I feel guilt and embarrassment? Yes. “I wish I’d understood how important America’s fight against our enemies was. “But did I go to Fallujah two years ago? Damn right I did. “And was I in Afghanistan, manning a 50-calibre machine gun in a Chinook, ready to rock? Yes. “Was I there for years? No, a couple of weeks. But I am not a coward.”
My Marine Corps taught me a lot too!
Breath Release Aim Sight Squeeze, ugh, um,, 12th military order and no farting in the LP! that’s it for memory lane for the moment! (I’m old, stay tuned) :-)
Semper Fi
His father was a drill sergeant. He probably didn’t bring his son up soft.
I’ve just listened through the mandatory commercial to see the whole Fox interview. He says he learned from the Marines - that’s not enough to say he falsely claimed to be a Marine.
He makes the point that this is stage outrage - and that Alice Cooper didn’t really cut his head off with a guillotine and that Mick Jagger didn’t have to explain when he rode a 40 foot inflatable penis.
I don’t see a problem here other than his stage show is getting a lot of press and its pretty outrageous. That will turn off some people.
I don’t think he would either. Nugent is a gun nut, he loves guns, he feels badly for avoiding the draft and because of that wants to do all he can for our military. He and Toby Keith were in Fallujah with the 1st Marines, he admires them and was just trying to throw them some props. When he says, “what the Marines taught me”, I believe that is all he was doing was giving a shout out to the 1st. For him to admit he was a draft dodger and felt guilty about it in an interview and then intentionally make such a claim would be beyond stupid. Nugent is crazy, but he isn’t stupid. :)
I would say this has more to do with what he called Obama and Hitlery than anything.
I too found references to a Free Press article (dated July 15, 1990 some said).
There are tons of Free Press articles mentioning Ted Nugent dating back to the 1980s found using http://nl.newsbank.com/
A search of the Free Press articles found no such July 15, 1990 article. There were July 3, 1990 and August 9, 1990 articles plus several more that year in other months.
You can read the first paragraph but must purchase the whole article. Nothing in the first paragraph suggested that the subject matter was his personal early experiences.
I have not attempted to search the Free Press articles on that (or any) site looking for anything about a draft physical.
I think he hits the nail just fine for a conservative rock star. How weel he can seperate his stage persona and his political persona is a question.
I don’t see any issue about the Marine thing. He’s been clear for a long time he did not serve in Vietnam
“”In the late 1960s he lived with the MC5, a group which was the prototype, musically and pharmaceutically, for acts including Iggy Pop, The Clash and The Sex Pistols.””
“Kick Out the Jams! MotherFu****s!
In case anyone doesn’t know the reference (MC5). I first listened to them in 69.
“”While “Ramblin’ Rose” and “Motor City is Burning” open with inflammatory rhetoric, it was the opening line to the title track that stirred up the most controversy. Rob Tyner shouted, “And right now it’s time to... KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHERFU**ERS!” before the opening riffs. Elektra’s executives were offended by the line and had preferred to edit it out of the album, however the band and manager John Sinclair adamantly opposed this. Instead, two versions were released, with the uncensored version sold behind record counters.””
While I could be wrong, I read it as: the Marine Corps taught him something and that he does it every night. Exactly what the Marine Corps taught him, I'm not sure.
Big difference.
For example, I was born in a hospital but don't claim to be a doctor.
And for the record, no, I am not a Marine nor am claiming so.
I don’t believe Ted Nugent would lie about this now and it doesn’t look like he did. It just sounds like some idiot is trying to light a fire where there is none.
I heard him, and I know that he has been spending a lot of time with the military recently, it sounded to me like he was acknowledging some recent Marine event or tour.
I did not find anything in the Detroit Free Press either, but I did find these articles. Looks to me like is was a smear campaign by some animal rights whackos.
TED NUGENT RESPONDS
OP-ED COLUMN WAS VICIOUS ATTACK ON MY CHARACTER
THE SEATTLE TIMES
March 24, 1991
“My hunting message is even simpler. I deeply respect God’s creations, and value his design and my participation in it. The only thing true in Bowman’s attack is that I have no use for anybody who treats animals as equal citizens of the planet. I eat animals, but never people. This is the main thrust of Bowman and his cultist animal clan. Animals as citizens? That is preposterous, and what separates moral fibre from hypocrisy.
Reciting a fictitious story from the hippies at Rolling Stone about how I got out of the draft is another example. I had a 1-Y student deferment, for the record.”
NUGENT’S MESSAGE OF CRUELTY, VIOLENCE
THE SEATTLE TIMES
March 18, 1991
Author: DAVE BOWMAN
“In a recent Animals’ Agenda article (``Ted Nugent: Serial Killer of Wildlife’’), Nugent relates how when faced with the possibility of conscription, he impressed the local draft board as to his unsuitability by letting all personal hygiene fall by the wayside - even to the point of relieving himself in his trousers for days on end.
And he wants to school your children.”
Can’t find anything on it .
I did find a funny quote from Nugent though; his response to a French journalist asking him about hunting.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/nugent.asp
Bump
Nugent never claimed to be a marine. He said the Marine Corp. taught him something.
Big difference.
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