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(Sweden:) Women fight for right to bare breasts
www.thelocal.se ^ | 09/20/2007 | Paul O'Mahony

Posted on 09/20/2007 1:39:33 PM PDT by WesternCulture

Two female students are demanding their rights after they were banned from bathing topless at a swimming pool in Uppsala. If girls are forced to wear bikinis, boys should be too, one of the women told The Local.

Ragnhild Karlsson, 22, and her friend Kristin Karlsson, 21, live on the same corridor in a student residence in the university town. On September 5th they took a trip to the Fyrishov leisure complex, where they decided to hop in for a swim without their bikini tops.

Though the pool was full of swimmers, a female lifeguard eventually caught sight of the bare-breasted women and reached for her whistle.

"We had been swimming for a while without anybody paying us any attention when the guards called us to the side and told us to either put on a top or leave. So we left," Ragnhild Karlsson told The Local.

On Wednesday, the two women sent a letter to the Equal Opportunities Ombudsman explaining that they saw no reason for men an women to be treated differently. If anything, a bikini top could be accused of drawing unnecessary attention to a woman's breasts.

"It's a question of equality. I think it's a problem that women are sexualized in this way. If women are forced to wear a top, shouldn't men also have to?"

The two friends said they were surprised when they were approached by the lifeguards.

"We thought it was against the law to treat people differently," said Ragnhild Karlsson, who is studying to be a speech therapist. Her friend Kristin aims to practice occupational therapy.

Staff at the pool later referred to studies showing that crimes of a sexual nature were particularly common in swimming pool environments.

"Surely women should be allowed to decide for themselves whether they need protecting. And is it not strange that women should somehow bear responsibily for sex crimes carried out by men," said Ragnhild Karlsson.

But a spokeswoman for the leisure complex stood by their decision not to allow the women to bathe topless.

"Swimming pools generally require men to wear swimming trunks and women to wear either bikinis or one piece swimsuits," Inger Grotteblad told The Local.

"There are three reasons for this. First, there is a security aspect, then there is a hygiene issue and finally there is what we call 'prevailing manners and customs'. It is above all this last point which is important here," she added.

She also pointed out that the swimming complex always needed to bear in mind the preferences of its guests.

"We have a lot of visitors here, ranging from families with children to the elderly. We also have people from different ethnic backgrounds. We want all of them to be able to enjoy themselves when they come here.

"This issue is new to us and we welcome the debate. It is important that everybody gets to voice their opinion, from families with children to naturists, older people and Muslim women. We have asked our governing body to look into this and hope they will come back to us with recommendations," said Grotteblad.


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KEYWORDS: feminism; nudity; sbt; scandinavia; sweden; swedishbikiniteam; swimwear
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To: Popman

Well, that ruins it.


41 posted on 09/20/2007 2:00:18 PM PDT by rattrap
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions
The one on the right’s kinda’ OK, but is that her little brother in the photo?

I am calling you out on that. If either were the teacher in a student-teacher sex scandal, they'd both be guilty. I think you may need some monitor cleaner. Try Windex if you have nothing else.

42 posted on 09/20/2007 2:00:29 PM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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To: Popman

GUITLY!


43 posted on 09/20/2007 2:00:44 PM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: clamper1797
I would rather fight for the right to bear arms ....

As far as I know, they don't have any problem with baring your arms in public in Sweden, only your breasts.

44 posted on 09/20/2007 2:01:02 PM PDT by TChris (Governments don't RAISE money; they TAKE it.)
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To: Popman

Woof! I think those two stopped my wall-clock.


45 posted on 09/20/2007 2:01:14 PM PDT by tumblindice (Fred and Duncan, sittin' in a tree, our new president and his VP)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
I’ll wager 15 Quatloos that they will be raped by Muslims within four weeks.

I dunno, after seeing the pics of the perps, they might get a pass from the muzzies.........

46 posted on 09/20/2007 2:02:23 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
I’ll wager 15 Quatloos that they will be raped by Muslims within four weeks.

15 Quatloos that they will be raped by Muslims within three weeks!
47 posted on 09/20/2007 2:02:25 PM PDT by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: Enterprise
Bear breasts? Why not let them go naked?


48 posted on 09/20/2007 2:02:35 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: Popman

GUILTY. In this particular case. Each one is unique however, and must be judged on its own merits.


49 posted on 09/20/2007 2:02:54 PM PDT by doodad
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To: clamper1797
I was just going to say that since I adamantly insist on my right to bear arms, I suppose that I must support these ladies right to bare breasts.

Fair's fair after all!

50 posted on 09/20/2007 2:03:35 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: GreenAccord

I wasn’t looking at the face...just the “offending” body parts in question.


51 posted on 09/20/2007 2:03:39 PM PDT by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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To: Popman

(Sigh!) You’d figure 22 and Swedish would be a pretty good bet. You’d be wrong.


52 posted on 09/20/2007 2:04:17 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Brakeman

Here’s one for equality: If you have breasts, cover them up in public. This goes for men, too.

How’s that? :-)


53 posted on 09/20/2007 2:04:30 PM PDT by AirForceBrat23
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To: Popman

how did they tell that the one on the left was a girl?


54 posted on 09/20/2007 2:05:03 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions
The one on the right’s kinda’ OK, but is that her little brother in the photo?

FRiend, I don't know where you live, but it is time to explore other horizons. Those two couldn't get a lesbo date here.

55 posted on 09/20/2007 2:05:16 PM PDT by doodad
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To: WesternCulture

“they saw no reason for men an women to be treated differently.”
They wouldn’t be treated differently if they weren’t meated differently!


56 posted on 09/20/2007 2:05:31 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Billthedrill
You’d figure 22 and Swedish would be a pretty good bet.

Yep, fell into that trap myself. Oh well, thread started out promising.........

57 posted on 09/20/2007 2:06:13 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions
The one on the right’s kinda’ OK, but is that her little brother in the photo?

Bro, aim higher, your standards are way too low.

58 posted on 09/20/2007 2:07:20 PM PDT by Popman (Nothing + Time + Chance = The Universe ---------------------Bridge in Brooklyn for sale - Cheap)
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To: Popman
These two are genuine Burka candidates


59 posted on 09/20/2007 2:07:48 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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