Posted on 09/27/2007 10:07:04 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
September 27, 2007, 6:45 PM ET
Jonathan Cohen, N.Y. Madonna, the Beastie Boys, John Mellencamp and Leonard Cohen lead a wildly disparate class of nominees for 2008 induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
They join Afrika Bambaataa, Chic, the Ventures, Donna Summer and the Dave Clark Five on the ballot. Five acts will be inducted March 10, 2008, at New York's Waldorf Astoria Hotel.
For eligibility, artists had to release their first single no later than 1982. Last year's inductees were R.E.M., Van Halen, Patti Smith, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five and the Ronettes
Still not even nominated or in:
Rush Foreigner KISS Blue Oyster Cult Meatloaf Alice Cooper Roxy Music Yes Genesis
Feel free to add to the list
ABBA
Chicago
Cliff Richard/Shadows
Deep Purple
Guess Who/Bachman-Turner Overdrive
Hollies
Judas Priest
King Crimson/Robert Fripp
Linda Ronstadt
Mahavishnu Orchestra/John McLaughlin/Billy Cobham/Jan Hammer
Metallica
Moody Blues
Move/Electric Light Orchestra/Roy Wood’s Wizzard/Jeff Lynne
Neil Diamond
Nick Lowe/Dave Edmunds/Rockpile
Ohio Players
Alan Parsons Project
Asia
B-52s
Badfinger
Barry White
Bay City Rollers
Big Star
Black Flag
Blasters
Blood, Sweat & Tears
Blue Oyster Cult
Boomtown Rats/Bob Geldof
Boston
Cars
Cat Stevens
Cheap Trick
Commodores/Lionel Ritchie
Cure
Darlene Love
Dave Clark Five
Def Leppard
Devo
Dick Dale
Dionne Warwick
Dire Straits
Donovan
Doobie Brothers
Edgar Winter Group
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
(Small) Faces
Fairport Convention/Richard Thompson/Sandy Denny
Foghat
Foreigner
Free/Bad Company
Fugs
Gary Glitter
Graham Parker & the Rumour
Gram Parsons/Flying Burrito Brothers
Hall & Oates
Harry Nilsson
Heart
Herman’s Hermits
Humble Pie
Hüsker Dü
J. Geils Band
J.J. Cale
Jeff Beck
Jethro Tull
Jimmy Buffett
Joan Baez
Joe Cocker
Joe Jackson
John Cougar Mellencamp
John Mayall
John Prine
Johnny Hallyday
Johnny Kidd & the Pirates
Johnny Rivers
Johnny Winter
Journey
Kraftwerk
Kool & the Gang
Leonard Cohen
Little Feat
Loggins & Messina
Luther Vandross
Manfred Mann
Minutemen
Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels
Montrose/Sammy Hagar
Mötley Crüe
Motorhead
Mott the Hoople/Ian Hunter
Nazareth
New York Dolls
Paul Butterfield
Paul Revere & the Raiders
Peter Frampton
Peter, Paul & Mary
Phil Ochs
Poco
Pointer Sisters
Procol Harum/Robin Trower
Quicksilver Messenger Service
Randy Newman
Raspberries/Eric Carmen
REO Speedwagon
R.E.M.
Replacements
Return To Forever/Chick Corea/Al DiMeola/Stanley Clarke
Rufus/Chaka Khan
Scorpions
Siouxsie & the Banshees
Slade
Sonic Youth
Sparks
Spencer Davis Group
Spinners
Spirit
Status Quo
Steppenwolf
Steve Miller
Stylistics
Styx
Ted Nugent
Television
Thin Lizzy
Three Dog Night
Tom Waits
Tommy James & the Shondells
Tower of Power
Tubes
Turtles/Flo & Eddie
UFO
War
Warren Zevon
Weather Report/Jaco Pastorius
X
Zombies/Argent
I agree but all you have to do to understand what the Rock and Roll HOF is all about is go there. It has very little to do with music and everything to do with grifting suckers for the admission price for a tour of memorabilia that you could find at any Hard Rock Cafe.
A few miles away you can see Elvis’ Electra Glide in a Cleveland Harley dealership but you won’t find one in the HOF.
It’s a joke.
Big Star
Beau Brummels
Blue Cheer
Captain Beefheart
Charlatans (U.S.)
Dictators
Joy Division
Kingsmen
Link Wray
Lonnie Donegan
MC5
Modern Lovers/Jonathan Richman
New York Dolls
Pretty Things
Residents
Screaming Lord Sutch
Suzi Quatro
Troggs
Wire
Sorry REM went in last year...already forgot!
Madonna is a rocker huh. Guess in 20 years Britney Spears will be inducted?
Bi-Sexual Editor of Rolling Stone and head of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Jann Wenner has said Rush will never get in under his watch because they have not contributed anything to rock and roll other than Tom Sawyer. As a fan of this band...this is our thorn. 40 million records sold worlwide and one of the top ten grossing tours this year not to mention a #3 Billboard debut.
I wouldn’t worry about him. He’ll probably die of some STD before they release their next record. You only have to watch their concert from Brazil to understand that hearing tens of thousands of people singing YYZ has had a more profound effect on music than anything RS has ever printed.
Period.
Ping
RUSH definitely should be there among many others listed, Neil Peart and Geddy Lee are masters of their instruments and Alex Lifeson is definitely no slouch on guitar!
Ping
RUSH definitely should be there among many others listed, Neil Peart and Geddy Lee are masters of their instruments and Alex Lifeson is definitely no slouch on guitar!
Damn, you list looks like my iPod.
oops hit it twice
Without Sonic Youth, there may as well be no Hall of Fame.
Comment of the day! You nailed it. I recently got a full year’s subscription mailed to me from a friend from 1985-1986 and it was literally the same crap they were putting about Reagan as they do with Bush. THE SAME CRAP!!!!!!!! WORD FOR WORD!
And to be honest with you I have been quite shocked that with all of the love Rolling Stone and 75% of the media writers in the 80s and 90s showed Sonic Youth..I can’t believe they are not in or nominated.
I’ll go with the Ventures and the Dave Clark Five, easy.
If the Boys get in you have to let SY in.
Daydream Nation was added to the Library Of Congress’ National Recording Register.
I’ll defend DC5. They were all over the US Top 40 charts with the Beatles and the Stones in the mid-60s. Not very artsy but they were a huge commercial success.
Rob Zombie is dissed again.
I have no respect for the Hall of Fame.
Well Cindy Lauper should also be inducted then, I love the drum solo in Girls Just Wanna Have Fun.
They could just call it the Liberal Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It’s a joke the groups that have been purposefully overlooked.
Afrika Bambaataa
WHO????
neil peart is hardly what i’d call a master.
Grand Funk Railroad
The Dave Clark Five and the Ventures aren’t already in? What a travesty the RORHOF is!
No Rush? Are they crazy?
“Big Star”
Awesome.
DC5 should have been in years and years ago.
Oh...we must have a jazz snob visiting the board today ;)
Peart is easily the greatest “rock” drummer ever to play the drums. Period.
Greatest drummer ever? No. That belongs to Buddy Rich.
Greatest drummer today? No. There are entirely too many players blowing up in front of our eyes every day on YouTube and Dennis Chambers is still alive and well...imo he is probably the best we have behind the kit..but that is just my opinion.
But when it comes to Peart? He is the most influential drummer to ever live.
They actually sing YYZ? That’s pretty impressive.
I wish Squeeze would get in, but that’s just wishful thinking...
I would be glad all over.
It looks more like the RIAA-Grammy Hall Of Fame.
I blame Rolling Stoned which hasn’t known crap about music in forever and their fearless leader who sits on the Hall’s board.
Was Rob even active musically in 1982?
Foetus did more to industrialize rock than anyone else and although he briefly surfaced on Sony in the 1990s, will never get acknowledged anywhere in the footnotes of rock. But expect to see later hacks like NIN and Mary Manson get in.
There is a small network of people within the Hall that do know what rock and roll is.
My brother has said that the exhibits at the Hall themselves have been good at times (featuring older acts that haven’t been “inducted”).
Also they underwrite a festival based in New Orleans that celebrates the unsung heroes of rock and roll and gets them on stage one more time (example lineup: Plas Johnson, Link Wray, Scotty Moore with DJ Fontana, Alex Chilton providing backup, Dale Hawkins with James Burton... Too much to recall at this time.
I’ve been to the Experience Music Pavillion in Seattle but not the RRHOF. There were some decent items and a lot of crap.
And Hard Rock may have a lot of memorabilia but they don’t preserve it, many artifacts have faded from poor protection (they didn’t use UV filtered glass).
Anti-Rock and Roll PING!
100 Greatest JAZZ drummers
[2005]
1. Buddy Rich
2. Elvin Jones
3. Max Roach
4. Roy Haynes
5. Jack DeJohnette
6. Tony Williams
7. Billy Cobham
8. Art Blakey
9. Joe Morello
10. Kenny Clarke
11. Gene Krupa
12. Dave Weckl
13. Harvey Mason
14. Peter Erskine
15. Chick Webb
16. Louis Bellson
17. Ed Blackwell
18. Bill Stewart
19. Steve Gadd
20. Papa Joe Jones
21. Connie Kay
22. Jeff “Tain” Watts
23. Philly Joe Jones
24. Paul Wertico
25. Big Sid Catlett
26. Rashied Ali
27. Warren “Baby” Dodds
28. Bernard Purdie
29. Clayton Cameron
30. Don Alias
31. Alphonse Mouzon
32. Alex Acuna
33. Paul Motian
34. Vinnie Colaiuta
35. Narada Michael Walden
36. Chad Wackerman
37. Shelly Manne
38. Johnny Vidacovich
39. Lional Hampton
40. Art Taylor
41. Billy Higgins
42. Lewis Nash
43. John Robinson
44. Danny Gottlieb
45. Antonio Sanchez
46. Bill Bruford
47. Alan Dawson
48. Dannie Richmond
49. Dennis Chambers
50. Ed Shaughnessey
51. Airto
52. Kenny Wollesen
53. Brian Blade
54. Gary Husband
55. Steve Smith
56. Alex Riel
57. Al Foster
58. Ben Perowski
59. Lenny White
60. Bernie Dresel
61. Panama Francis
62. Louis Hayes
63. Sonny Payne
64. Ed Thigpen
65. Jeff Ballard
66. Jay Lane
67. Gary Novak
68. Billy Kilson
69. Jimmy Cobb
70. Idrus Muhammed
71. John Riley
72. Abe Laboriel Jr.
73. Joe LaBarbera
74. Mel Lewis
75. Andrew Cyrille
76. Stanton Moore
77. Adam Nussbaum
78. Ben Riley
79. Cecil Brooks III
80. Simon Phillips
81. Joel Taylor
82. Marvin ‘Smitty’ Smith
83. Harold Jones
84. T.S. Monk
85. Terry Bozzio
86. Frankie Dunlop
87. Ray Barretto
88. Billy Hart
89. Stan Levey
90. Tony Royster
91. Paul Barbarin
92. Joel Rosenblatt
93. Andre Ceccarelli
94. Martin Drew
95. John Guerin
96. Kenny Washington
97. Leon Parker
98. Luis Conte
99. Gene Jackson
100. Claude Ranger
100 Greatest ROCK drummers
[2006]
1. Neil Peart (Rush)
2. John Bonham* (Led Zeppelin)
3. Carl Palmer (ELP)
4. Keith Moon* (The Who)
5. Terry Bozzio (Frank Zappa)
6. Ginger Baker (Cream)
7. Hal Blaine (Session man)
8. Danny Carey (Tool)
9. Bill Bruford (Yes, King Crimson)
10. Earl Palmer (Session man)
11. Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater)
12. Dave Lombardo (Slayer)
13. Benny Benjamin* (Funk Brothers)
14. Ian Paice (Deep Purple)
15. Carmine Appice (Vanilla Fudge)
16. Tommy Aldridge (Ozzy Osbourne)
17. Stewart Copeland (The Police)
18. Bernard Purdie (Session)
19. Vinnie Colaiuta (Zappa)
20. Jeff Porcaro* (Toto)
21. Bill Ward (Black Sabbath)
22. David Garabaldi (Tower Of Power)
23. Ainsley Dunbar (Jeff Beck)
24. Nicko McBrain (Iron Maiden)
25. Mike Shrieve (Santana)
26. Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix)
27. Steve Smith (Journey)
28. Al Jackson* (The MGs)
29. Matt Cameron (Soundgarden)
30. Tim Alexander (Primus)
31. Jim Keltner (Session man)
32. Phil Collins (Genesis)
33. Cozy Powell* (Rainbow)
34. Simon Phillips (Toto)
35. Russ Kunkel (Session man)
36. Bobby Jarzombeck (Rob Halford)
37. Carter Beauford (Dave Matthews)
38. Zigaboo Modeliste (The Meters)
39. Jimmy Chamberlain (Smashing Pumpkins)
40. Vinnie Paul (Pantera)
41. Kenny Aronoff (Session man)
42. Alan White (Yes)
43. Mike Giles (King Crimson)
44. Rod Morgenstein (Dixie Dregs)
45. Clive Bunker (Jethro Tull)
46. Mike Mangini (Extreme)
47. Ringo Starr (The Beatles)
48. Roger Hawkins (Arethra Franklin/Session Man)
49. Bobby Elliot (The Hollies)
50. Alex Van Halen (Van Halen)
51. BJ Wilson* Procul Harum)
52. Joe Franco (Good Rats)
53. Charlie Watts (Rolling Stones)
54. Virgil Donati (Planet X)
55. Roger Taylor (Queen)
56. Chad Wackerman (Zappa)
57. Topper Headon (The Clash)
58. Nick Barker (Dimmu Borgir)
59. Mick Fleetwood (Fleetwood Mac)
60. Danny Seraphine (Chicago)
61. Gene Holgan (Death)
62. John Densmore (The Doors)
63. Max Weinberg (Springsteen)
64. Jabo Starks (James Brown)
65. Lars Ulrich (Metallica)
66. Jerry Allison (Crickets)
67. Phil Ehart (Kansas)
68. Chester Thompson (Santana)
69. Matt McDonoughe (Mudvayne)
70. Dean Castronovo (Journey)
71. Jon Theodore (Mars Volta)
72. Van Romaine (Steve Morse)
73. Ralph Humphrey (Mothers Of Invention)
74. Les Lester (Los Straightjackets)
75. Brian Downey (Thin Lizzy)
76. Brann Dailor (Mastodon)
77. Dick Richards (The Comets)
78. Josh Freese (A Perfect Circle)
79. Stanton Moore (Galactic)
80. Joey Jordison (Slipknot)
81. Ron Wilson (Surfaris)
82. Jack Irons (Pearl Jam)
83. Jim Gordon (Derek And The Dominoes)
84. Nick Mason (Pink Floyd)
85. Eddie Bayers (Session man)
86. Jeff Campitelli (Joe Satriani)
87. Dave Grohl (Nirvana)
88. Bobby Rondinelli (Rainbow)
89. Chris Frantz (Talking Heads)
90. Mike Bordin (Faith No More)
91. Taylor Hawkins (Foo Fighters)
92. Lee Kerslake (Uriah Heep)
93. Phil Selway (Radiohead)
94. Vinnie Appice (Black Sabbath, Dio)
95. Scott Rockenfield (Queensryche)
96. Chad Smith (Red Hot Chilli Peppers)
97. Nick Menza (Megadeth)
98. John Dalmayan (System Of A Down)
99. Travis Barker (Blink 182)
100. Ralph Salmins (Session man)
50 Most Skilled Drummers
1. Vinnie Colaiuta
2. Dave Weckl
3. Steve Gadd
4. Billy Cobham
5. Terry Bozzio
6. Bill Bruford
7. Buddy Rich
8. Neil Peart
9. Steve Smith
10. Tony Williams
11. Dennis Chambers
12. Carl Palmer
13. Gene Krupa
14. Ansley Dunbar
15. Mark Mondesir
16. Max Roach
17. Danny Carey
18. Mike Portnoy
19. Elvin Jones
20. Peter Erskine
21. Simon Phillips
22. Marco Minnemann
23. Jack DeJohnette
24. Virgil Donati
25. Chad Wackerman 26. Joe Morello
27. Dean Castronovo
28. Morgan Agren
29. Harvey Mason
30. Carter Beauford
31. Greg Bissonette
32. Thomas Lang
33. Bill Stewart
34. Mike Mangini
35. Art Blakey
36. Roy Haynes
37. Connie Kay
38. Tim Alexander
39. Paul Wertico
40. David Garibaldi
41. Louis Bellson
42. Rod Morgenstein
43. Bernard Purdie
44. Ed Blackwell
45. Horacio Hernandez
46. Jeff “Tain” Watts
47. Al Foster
48. Omar Hakim
49. Lewis Nash
50. Antonio Sanchez
Everyone has their own taste. I googled “Best rock drummers in the world” and it gave this list in a link. Though I appreciate all types of music, rock is my preference.
Problem with Bonham and Moon is they gave us barely 10 yrs worth of music.
Peart has given 33 yrs and still going. That is how I am able to form my opinion. He chose not to live his life like an idiot and drown himself to death in alcohol. But enjoy what its like to live and play as a living legend.
Bonham and Moon accomplished the recordings but never the glory and the maturity of musicians who last and record as long as Peart.
His most recent solo from 2007 is right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ri3uLMU2tA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXCZvRNgLnI
Check it out yourself...quite the sight to be seen. The DVD Rush In Rio is unreal.
“Was Rob even active musically in 1982?”
Good point - I think he started around 1985, so I’ll have to wait a few years to see him officially dissed.
And though I enjoy Marilyn Manson, he (it) is more Hollywood than rock and roll, and doesn’t add anything new to the mix. Gotta agree with you there about the hack-ism.
I visited the Hall in 1997 (IIRC). It was very disappointing.
Now if Motorhead ever gets inducted, it should be the same day Ted Nugent and KISS gets in...and what a blast that would be.
On Rush:
Maybe a bit late on this thread, but I'll chime in anyways.
Rush is a band which I got into when they were just breaking big, "Permanent Waves" was the album, and I saw them live and close up at the Paramount Theater in NYC (formerly Academy of Music, now a dorm building for NYU) ... they were good, they were hot, they were ROCK n ROOL (!!!!)
I was in a band, playing guitar at the time .. and we did Rush tunes "Hemispheres", "The Trees", "2112", "Circumstances", "Passage to Bankok"(-5sp?), and of course "Spirit of Radio" ... eeenywees, Rush was the best thing to come along in Rock since the Disco crap blew its last line of cocaine ...
Fast forward, 28 years later ... I went to a Rush concert this past summer, and they STILL ROCK !!! Geddy's bass was actually shaking the venue(!), something which I haven't experienced at a concert in decades! It used to be when a rock band played you'd be thrown back from the power of the bass, but not anymore ... Geddy turned this around and just pounded out the most magnificently powerful Bass riffs that I've experienced in decades!
All in all it was a happy experience .. Rock n ROOL is back (not that it ever went away:) The RnR HOF is a complete joke, how could they *not* have Alice Cooper, Moody Blues, or YES, or ELP, or Genesis in there? What a joke !
Singing YYZ ???? /laughs ... that has to be something to hear, since YYZ is an instrumental ;)
Vote for the most deserving but overlooked artists for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame at:
http://www.rateitall.com/t-2529-deserving-of-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame.aspx
The top 20 at this point are:
1) Rush
2) Yes
3) Deep Purple
4) The Ventures
5) Stevie Ray Vaughan
6) Genesis
7) Alice Cooper
8) Chicago
9) Madonna
10) Pete Townshend (solo)
11) Jethro Tull
12) Dire Straits
13) Duran Duran
14) Moody Blues
15) The Cars
16) The Smiths
17) Peter Gabriel (solo)
18) Neil Diamond
19) Heart
20) The Stooges (Iggy Pop)
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