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GM takes aim at Toyota Camry and Honda Accord with new Malibu
IHT ^ | September 27, 2007 | Nick Bunkley

Posted on 09/28/2007 6:17:37 AM PDT by vietvet67

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To: Spktyr
Not a bad try, but not as good as the Camry's design.

The newest Camry design looks like a egg on wheels. I'll wait to see this one on the lot before saying yay or nay.

I do love Red. Have to see what shade they come up with. I'll wait for some reviews before I'd even think of buying one.

I looked at the 2006 Malibu and Impala before buying my 2006 Hyundia Sonata. I'm happy with my choice but G.M and Ford are making good strides in quality IMHO.

41 posted on 09/28/2007 6:43:14 AM PDT by McGruff (If I can't have Cheney I guess Fred will have to do.)
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To: vietvet67
I owned a Malibu once. Never again. Ever.

My wife and I both drive a Camry now.

42 posted on 09/28/2007 6:43:24 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski (No good deed goes unpunished.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
The fact is people LIKE bland and boring,

I don't know whether it is "LIKE" boring, but rather they want reliable, comfortable, good gas milage, decent power and reliable (yes, I said it twice). I'm not going to give up those to get something "exciting" for my primary car. That, and most car companies' idea of "exciting" is slapping a spoiler on the back of a sedan.

43 posted on 09/28/2007 6:43:38 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: vietvet67

I’ve seen this car in person. The proportions are very good, the interior appears very well thought out, with materials and build quality that are up to the standards of Asian rivals. Some may not like the Chevy “corporate face” but it was drawn from the iconic late sixties and early seventies Impalas, Chevelles and Caprices. The look debuted on the latest iteration of the Impala in 06, which registered quite an uptick in sales, leading Camry in sales for a few reporting periods, but certainly not for the entire sales year. The 3.5 liter V-6 is a version of their 3.6, which is in a vehicle I own, very refined and good power, 275 hp., 25+ highway mpg, and this is in a 5,000 GVW vehicle (GMC Acadia). The direct injection version of this engine, installed in the new Cadillac CTS (stunning car, btw) does better still, 300 hp, better mileage. All these vehicles have a new, computer-controlled 6 speed transmission that is state of the art. I’m proud of what GM has done, as far as turning itself around under Bob Lutz. Cadillac is back, definitely. If they would only produce the Sixteen concept, with or without the V-16. Chevy is coming along nicely. The Lambda series CUV’s (Acadia, Outlook and Enclave) have achieved sales domination with less than two years on the market. Those of you who, for whatever reason, cheer on the demise of domestic automobile manufacturing are in for a surprise.


44 posted on 09/28/2007 6:44:09 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: CobraJet
GM already offers a 5yr, 100,000 mile warranty.

GM dealers are notorious for not honoring warranties.

45 posted on 09/28/2007 6:45:01 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Who cares what it looks like. Point A to Point B ... without paying mechanics.


46 posted on 09/28/2007 6:46:55 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: MichaelP
The venom some here have for the big three is unbelievable, and sad...

It's sad, but entirely believable given the miserable products the big three sold for so long.

47 posted on 09/28/2007 6:47:05 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: stratboy

My son in law helped build that sequoia


48 posted on 09/28/2007 6:47:17 AM PDT by wordsofearnest (Thompson-Hunter not Hunter Thompson.)
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To: BenLurkin

I have a 2005 Impala and love it. It has been a very solid and dependable car. It has 65,000 on it and the only maintenance, beside new brakes, has been routine maintenance. I always have and always will buy American. I am never going to line Japanese, German or Korean pockets ever.


49 posted on 09/28/2007 6:47:53 AM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08!)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

The Camry is homely? Wow, what do you think is stylish?


50 posted on 09/28/2007 6:47:59 AM PDT by flintsilver7
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To: 1rudeboy
What the heck is a 3.5L V-6? Is that a new engine for GM?

3.5L refers to the combined volume of the engine's cylinders. 3.5L is about average for six cylinder intended for a mid-size sedan. DOHC engines in this size class routinely produce anywhere from 220 to 280 horsepower depending on whether they are tuned for fuel economy or performance.

I've found Honda Accords and Toyota Camrys have got to be the most boring automobiles on the road today. Well engineered, but unremarkable. The only import brands that provide some excitement, styling, and general fun without breaking the budget are Nissan and Subaru. Those two and Chevrolet if I were going to buy a truck or a sports car are the only brands I'd actually consider parting with my money over. If I were to buy a Toyota I'd be likely to go to sleep at the wheel.
51 posted on 09/28/2007 6:47:59 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: dinoparty

Uh, the guys commenting on the styling.


52 posted on 09/28/2007 6:47:59 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Oberon

The LeSabre chassis is something like 23 years old, the 3800/3.8L/231 is about 40 years old, and GM is just *now* working most of the bugs out of it?

There’s a reason (actually, many reasons) why they’re so cheap.

Meanwhile, over at Toyota, the 3.5L engine in the Camry produces 268 horsepower and gets 28mpg highway. At Nissan, their 3.5L produces 270hp in the Altima and gets about the same mileage as you do.

220hp from a 3.8L is just weak these days.


53 posted on 09/28/2007 6:48:29 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: theDentist
As exciting as watching tar cool.

Which is why I won't buy one. Or a Honda Accord. Or a Camry. All are thoroughly boring to drive.
54 posted on 09/28/2007 6:49:27 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: stratboy
This tells me that Americans can build quality cars. The only difference seems to be Unions and Management.

You left out engineering and design. I also own two Toyotas and will be sticking with them until Toyota gives me a reason to quit buying them.

The 1964 Malibu had an SS version with a 396ci engine which to this day is still my all time favorite muscle car. If they could take this same Malibu and have options from a 4 cylinder engine that gets over 35 mpg to a small V8 that blows everything else off the road, they might have something. Also, they might take some time and make sure it handles and feels as well as a Camry or Accord before they go too far with my ideas :)

55 posted on 09/28/2007 6:49:54 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: vietvet67

I’m still in love with my 1965 Malibu 2 door hardtop. As far as I’m concerned, that was the best styled Malibu Chevy has ever made.


56 posted on 09/28/2007 6:50:55 AM PDT by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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To: KarlInOhio

You wish. There’s two guys at the end of the Suburban/Yukon line in Arlington, TX whose entire job is to remove all the trash that the workers throw in the vehicle as it goes down the line. And I’ve personally seen new 2007 GMs that were missing parts.

Remember, at GM, the *UAW* runs quality control on the line.


57 posted on 09/28/2007 6:51:06 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: vietvet67

I’ll consider buying a Chevrolet when the brand can be mentioned in polite conversation without snickering, snorts and guffaws or when Hell freezes over, whichever comes first. (Your mileage may vary.)


58 posted on 09/28/2007 6:51:49 AM PDT by DeFault User
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To: Senator_Blutarski

I’m still in love with my 1965 Malibu 2 door hardtop. As far as I’m concerned, that was the best styled Malibu Chevy has ever made.


59 posted on 09/28/2007 6:52:21 AM PDT by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Sales domination? Erm... not so much. IIRC, the sales leaders in that segment are still *not* the Lambda cars.


60 posted on 09/28/2007 6:52:38 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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