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Should dating sites allow screening by race?
Super Crunchers (book) | 2007 | Ian Ayres

Posted on 10/05/2007 7:52:09 AM PDT by reaganaut1

eHarmony allows clients to discriminate on the race of potential mates. Even though it's only acting on the wishes of its clients, matching services that discriminate by race may violate a statute dating back to the Civil War that prohibits race discrimination in contracting. Think about it. eHarmony is a for-profit company that takes $50 from black clients and refuses to treat them the same (match them with the same people) as some white clients. A restauraunt would be in a lot of trouble if it refused to seat Hispanic customers in a section where customers stated a preference to have "Anglos only."


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KEYWORDS: dating; datingservices; eharmony; interracial; interracialdating; interracialmarriage; miscegenation; race; racerelations; races; racial; racism; racist; racists
From page 26 of a book ranked 21 on the NYT Hardcover Non-fiction best-seller list, written by a professor at the Yale law school.

Isn't it obvious that people should be able to date who they want and specify their preferences on a dating site?

In the next paragraph, Ayres criticizes eHarmony for not facilitating homosexual relationships.

1 posted on 10/05/2007 7:52:11 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Whaaaa! Eharmony didnt fix my life!


2 posted on 10/05/2007 7:55:02 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: reaganaut1
eHarmony is a for-profit company that takes $50 from black clients and refuses to treat them the same (match them with the same people) as some white clients

eHarmony also takes $50 from white people and refuses to match them with black people, so the argument is moot.

3 posted on 10/05/2007 7:56:47 AM PDT by Terabitten (Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets - E-Frat '94. Unity and Pride!)
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To: reaganaut1
Continue the thought process: Should eHarmony discriminate on the grounds of specified religous preference? Should eHarmony discriminate on the grounds of physical charateristics? Should eHarmony discriminate on the grounds of smoking preference?

Should we just allow the government (or Rev. Moon) simply assign us spouses? Nothing could be more fair than that... </sarc>

4 posted on 10/05/2007 7:58:49 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: reaganaut1
The whole premise of the company is to match compatible people, not match the same people to everyone.

People of any race are treated the same - they are matched with people that have similar preferences.

If they can’t find anybody on the site, tough luck. I’m white and an “eHarmony reject”.

5 posted on 10/05/2007 7:59:10 AM PDT by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: Terabitten

What’s next, not allowing clients to specify if they want to date a male or a female?


6 posted on 10/05/2007 8:00:15 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: reaganaut1
That's right. eHarmony discriminates by sex too!

They should be prohibited from discriminating on the basis of race, sex, religion, age, marital status, or physical appearance. Customers should simply post that they are available and then go out with whatever man or woman gets randomly selected for them.

The only problem is that the government won't be able to extract any tax revenue from eHarmony after it quickly goes out of business.

There used to be a Constitutional right of the people peaceably to assemble, which meant that you could assemble with whoever you wanted.

That right apparently got written out of the Constitution around the same time that the "separation of church and state" and "emanations from the penumbra" provisions got added.

7 posted on 10/05/2007 8:02:24 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (What did Rather know and when did he know it?)
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To: reaganaut1

Well, the author fails to understand that it was completely legal to have “separate but equal” well after any Civil War legislation.

Just ask racist Southern Democrats for what they were allowed as legal into the 1960’s.

The author is ignorant.


8 posted on 10/05/2007 8:06:05 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: reaganaut1

I’d be getting laid 10 times a week if I wasn’t particular about race, sexual orientation, intelligence level, drug use, number of teeth and favorite team in the Southeastern Conference. It just so happens that I am particular about all of those things.


9 posted on 10/05/2007 8:06:33 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Bring me the head of Miley Cyrus!)
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To: dfwgator
What’s next, not allowing clients to specify if they want to date a male or a female?

LOL.

I met my wife through eHarmony. We've been married for almost 3 years now, and just had our second child.

Lots of the eHarmony "rejects" aren't really rejected - there's just no one who meets their specific criteria at that precise moment. eHarmony told me I had no matches for the first week, but then started sending me matches. Six months later, I met my future wife.

10 posted on 10/05/2007 8:07:38 AM PDT by Terabitten (Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets - E-Frat '94. Unity and Pride!)
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To: CholeraJoe
and favorite team in the Southeastern Conference

Wow, I thought I was the only one.

11 posted on 10/05/2007 8:10:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: reaganaut1
Isn't the art of choosing a life-mate, let alone a casual date, a complete exercise in discrimination?
12 posted on 10/05/2007 8:10:35 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: reaganaut1
In the next paragraph, Ayres criticizes eHarmony for not facilitating homosexual relationships.

eeeewwwwwHarmony?

13 posted on 10/05/2007 8:10:55 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: reaganaut1
eHarmony is a for-profit company that takes $50 from black clients and refuses to treat them the same (match them with the same people) as some white clients.

Wrong. It treats them exactly the same -- it takes their $50 and asks (in the survey) their race. It's not like if one answers 'black' one is refused.

14 posted on 10/05/2007 8:11:06 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo ("Hidin' in a corner ...of New York City, lookin' down a .44 in West Virginy")
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To: Lazarus Longer
It's not like if one answers 'black' one is refused.

Refused service, that is. They'll take your money no matter what your race is, and provide you with the same sevice.

15 posted on 10/05/2007 8:13:27 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo ("Hidin' in a corner ...of New York City, lookin' down a .44 in West Virginy")
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To: reaganaut1

“written by a professor at the Yale law school.”

I would have never guessed that Ian was a professor at a law school. His premise is just plain ignorant and the arguments they are making about e-harmony are just foolish. However, professor or not, a liberal is ignorant and foolish, so no real surprise there.


16 posted on 10/05/2007 8:14:12 AM PDT by CSM ("Dogs and beer. Proof that God loves us.- Al Gator (8/24/2007))
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To: dfwgator

What’s next, not allowing clients to specify if they want to date a male or a female?

^^^
Bingo!

Probably also the goal of the perv-activists to prohibit species discrimination.


17 posted on 10/05/2007 8:16:49 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: reaganaut1

I say you should be able to screen by any criteria you want, its your money and life or have I fallen asleep and Hillary won and we have to date whomever the government picks.


18 posted on 10/05/2007 8:26:50 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: reaganaut1

Simple answer - the screening selection should be made by the person submitting their personal choices, but that person should include their own status within that classification. For example, “ 6 ft. 8 guy seeking female 5 ft 4 or shorter who enjoys wearing a collar and leash.”


19 posted on 10/05/2007 8:45:59 AM PDT by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!)
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To: reaganaut1

Interesting, the attacks on EHarmony.

First from the homosexuals because there is no homosexual matches

Second from the black community because people are permitted to choose race, which happens at most other dating sites.

What will the next victim group be?

EHarmony has a Christian perspective.
It is fair game.


20 posted on 10/05/2007 8:46:28 AM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: reaganaut1

If you are paying an Internet company to do your job for you, you shouldn’t be surprised if they cut corners in the interest of efficiency. ;)


21 posted on 10/05/2007 8:51:28 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Resolute Conservative
I say you should be able to screen by any criteria you want, its your money and life or have I fallen asleep and Hillary won and we have to date whomever the government picks.

I suspect that the author's real complaint is about eHarmony not dealing with homosexuals, and that the other stuff is just window dressing. JMO.

22 posted on 10/05/2007 8:51:49 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: reaganaut1
"eHarmony allows clients to discriminate on the race of potential mates."

Since when did we lose the right to choose who our partner may be, you know, the right to free association? I thought my law school was terrible when it came to teaching Constitutional Law, but it appears Yale now has it beat. A scary insight to what this strain of socialists would impose on us if they ever got control.

23 posted on 10/05/2007 9:01:12 AM PDT by Corporate Law (<>< - Xavier Basketball, Perennial Slayer of #1 Ranked Teams)
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To: r9etb

They should start HomoHarmony and be done with it.


24 posted on 10/05/2007 9:38:38 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: dfwgator

I won’t date Bama or Tennessee fans, period. Georgia fans had better put out by the second date or they’re history.


25 posted on 10/05/2007 9:52:28 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Bring me the head of Miley Cyrus!)
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To: CholeraJoe

since when, you liar! you told me that breathing, female and mammal were your criteria!


26 posted on 10/05/2007 9:53:59 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

You and your memory are quite irritating, xs.


27 posted on 10/05/2007 9:55:54 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Bring me the head of Miley Cyrus!)
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To: CholeraJoe

trying to pass yourself off as all particular and discriminatin’, ya dang ‘bama!


28 posted on 10/05/2007 9:59:35 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: CholeraJoe; xsmommy
You and your memory are quite irritating, xs.

Ain't she though.

29 posted on 10/05/2007 10:06:35 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Fred Thompson 2008, no need to "suspend disbelief" with him)
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To: CholeraJoe

No interracial matches on eHarmony?

I see an opportunity for Madame Puddyfoot.


30 posted on 10/05/2007 10:07:53 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: NeoCaveman; CholeraJoe

not bad with the prealzheimers i have going on for regular stuff, huh? rest assured that your every indiscretion is being retained for future use.... : )


31 posted on 10/05/2007 10:08:48 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy
rest assured that your every indiscretion is being retained for future use.... : )

And that's one hell of a big file.

32 posted on 10/05/2007 10:12:10 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Fred Thompson 2008, no need to "suspend disbelief" with him)
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To: reaganaut1

As a “white man” who prefers Latin and middle eastern women, I believe I am well within my rights to discriminate in choosing a mate.


33 posted on 10/05/2007 10:15:36 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: dfwgator

ROLL TIDE!


34 posted on 10/05/2007 10:23:17 AM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: chesley

What’s funny is that on my street here in suburban Dallas-Fort Worth, we are represented by graduates from Florida, Alabama, LSU, Tennessee and Georgia. Needless to say our block parties on weekends are very interesting.


35 posted on 10/05/2007 10:25:58 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: dfwgator
I’ll bet they are. I used to live in Baytown, myself, and I have a sister in McKinney, up your way, and a brother in Plano.

Had to move back, though. Missed the Bama barbecue at Archibald's, and couldn’t find anything comparable in the Houston area. :)

36 posted on 10/05/2007 10:30:31 AM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: reaganaut1
If the dating service is a private company, they should screen (or give screening options) as they see fit. [Note that this goes against personal natural tendency on this subject].

However, once a match is found, and if a picture is supplied, dater 'a' doesn't have to choose to actually go on a date with dater 'b' if dater 'a' does not want to.

37 posted on 10/05/2007 1:14:08 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: reaganaut1
eHarmony allows clients to discriminate on the race of potential mates.

Think about it. eHarmony is a for-profit company that takes $50 from black clients and refuses to treat them the same (match them with the same people) as some white clients.

There's two different issues here from what I can see. One is that eHarmony allows clients to decide a racial preference and yet this author says that eHarmony is not treating blacks the same as whites by prohibiting them from choosing whites?

You can't say that allowing soemone to make their own choices is the same as prohibiting someone from doing something.

38 posted on 10/05/2007 7:44:44 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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