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The MRSA Scam (snake oil shall protect thee not from zot)
10/18/2007 | Self

Posted on 10/18/2007 11:18:34 AM PDT by EndWelfareToday

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To: EndWelfareToday

Funny how our average lifespans have increased dramatically during all this . . .


101 posted on 10/18/2007 12:08:07 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: ml/nj

You might be interested in this:

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/cholesterol_myth_2.html


102 posted on 10/18/2007 12:09:07 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Funny how our average lifespans have increased dramatically during all this . . .

Satan.

103 posted on 10/18/2007 12:09:36 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: beer

104 posted on 10/18/2007 12:10:07 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Funny how our average lifespans have increased dramatically during all this . . .

Actually, now that I think about it, wasn't Moses 2,000 years old? Seems we have a much shorter lifespan now.

105 posted on 10/18/2007 12:10:11 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: EndWelfareToday

So, you’re trying to say you’ve gone off your meds?


106 posted on 10/18/2007 12:10:12 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Phantom Lord

“You’re an idiot. This friggin’ thing damned near killed me in 2006.”
“Me too.”

Actually it was the hospital that almost killed you. Almost certainly the MRSA was acquired from contact with the staff. What they are saying in the media that MSRA is on everyone’s skin is BS. Staph aureus is normal flora on the skin, but those strains are not very antibiotic resistant. These strains are a problem, not a crisis.


107 posted on 10/18/2007 12:10:33 PM PDT by Hacklehead (I'm not here to make friends.)
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To: EndWelfareToday

You really really really ought to take your meds.

I mean, just damn......


108 posted on 10/18/2007 12:11:34 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Hacklehead

I had it before I went to the hospital. My previous visit to a hospital was 4 months earlier.


109 posted on 10/18/2007 12:11:45 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: EndWelfareToday
Can you show me anywhere in scripture where Luke practiced "medicine" AFTER he was baptized in the Holy Spirit?

This is a stupid comment.

Can you show me anywhere in scripture where Luke relieved himself AFTER he was baptized in the Holy Spirit?
Can you show me anywhere in scripture where Luke went swimming AFTER he was baptized in the Holy Spirit?
Can you show me anywhere in scripture where Luke kissed his mother AFTER he was baptized in the Holy Spirit?
Can you show me anywhere in scripture where Luke enjoyed a nice sunset AFTER he was baptized in the Holy Spirit?
Can you show me anywhere in scripture where Luke argued with a sceptic AFTER he was baptized in the Holy Spirit?

See? I can play that game too. God gave us brains and the ability to use them. Medicine is one way in which we use them.

110 posted on 10/18/2007 12:13:02 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: EndWelfareToday
Colossians 4:14
111 posted on 10/18/2007 12:13:06 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Hacklehead

Now, I do have regular contact with medical professionals both professionally and personally. They could have transmitted it to me.


112 posted on 10/18/2007 12:13:09 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: EndWelfareToday

Good rant. Hope you feel better. Like you, I don’t have health insurance because I can’t afford it.


113 posted on 10/18/2007 12:14:13 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: editor-surveyor

Ping for your input


114 posted on 10/18/2007 12:14:31 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: theDentist
Off meds or not, EWT is a fountain of lucidity compared to the incomparable fchristian, an inspiration to crazy people everywhere!
115 posted on 10/18/2007 12:15:42 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: TomServo
You’re an idiot. This friggin’ thing damned near killed me in 2006.

It killed a friend of my family’s years ago.

Obviously neither you nor your friend knew God.

Sad... Really sad. :-[

As for your personal attack. You call me a moron and tell me to take my head out of my ass yet it is not I that suffered from the disease MRSA. A disease caused by bacteria found in unclean, unhealthy environments. My guess is it isn't me that needs to relax his sphincter and pull his head out.

Remember folks. This is a vanity. It is just my opinion. You don't like it don't read it.

116 posted on 10/18/2007 12:16:57 PM PDT by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter '08)
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To: Greg F

I think “The Office” will benefit from going back to 30 minutes rather than an hour (tonight is the last hour long episode).


117 posted on 10/18/2007 12:17:33 PM PDT by LanPB01
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To: donnab
There is a modicum of truth to it.

I didn't find much...

We no longer allow kids to play in the mud.

We don't? I'm certainly not included in that "we".

We take anti-biotics for every little thing.

Again, not true in my case.

We use anti-bacterial soap and hand cleaners.

Yes, but recent studies have shown that plain soap and water accomplish the same thing. Are those supposedly bad too?

None of the above is actually good for you, and has led us to the infections that cant be beat today.

Really? Have you checked the infection, disease and death rates of Western, modern cultures with the best hygiene compared to those with lower standards?

Cleanliness is a good thing.

Too many antibiotics have led to strains of bacteria that are resistant to treatment. I no longer let my doctor give them to my kids for everything.

Antibiotics are usually mis-prescribed at the insistence of the patient or the patient's parents. You're correct that their misuse is a major problem. But that does not mean that antibiotics are a bad thing.

Antibacterial soaps are proving to be more bad than good.

That's the thinking of some. I believe the jury's still out on this one.

Years ago I had an aunt who would keep her kids out of the mud, and indoors alot. We kids who got dirty and swapped germs by sharing sodas and food were healthy. Her kids were always sick.

A single example doesn't prove a thing. That's a common misunderstanding on FR. I could use experiences from my life to reach very incorrect conclusions if I tried that:

A good friend named Leah died of Lou Gherig's Disease. My older brother's nasty ex-wife was named Leah. The name Leah should therefore be avoided at all costs.

The VW pickup I drove for a few years broke down frequently. My Dodge Durango has never left me walking. Therefore, all VWs are junk and all Dodges are reliable.

You get the point. A single experience, while very real and true, doesn't tell you much of anything about larger trends.

A persons immune system needs to be able to fight and build up. Thats the premise behind vaccinations...introduce a bug in amounts that the body can build up tolerance. By not allowing our bodies to do what they do naturally we are expanding the risks for resistant bacteria.

Even with good hygiene and antibiotics, people will come into contact with plenty of germs in their lives. The idea is to try and knock out the nastiest ones, the ones that frequently don't give the victim a chance to build immunity, so they stop killing people. That's what vaccination is about, and it's a Very Good Thing.

So hes not entirely nuts. Just a little.

Nope, he's nuts. MRSA is a very nasty bug. It kills people. Lots of people. Naively ignoring the threat and hoping that naked faith will save anyone is dangerous and foolish.

Perhaps the guy hasn't heard the story of the people in the flood, where numerous potential rescuers are repeatedly turned away, until the people eventually drown.

Most of the time, the blessings of Heaven are delivered by ordinary people. ...such as doctors and nurses.

118 posted on 10/18/2007 12:17:55 PM PDT by TChris (Cartels (oil, diamonds, labor) are bad. Free-market competition is good.)
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To: theDentist
How could I forget the . in f.christian's handle?!

The ineffable effdot was sui generis.

119 posted on 10/18/2007 12:18:35 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: Phantom Lord

More than just knowing some people who’ve suffered with MRSA, there are some freepers and their immediate families who are battling this.

The only thing I can say about this post is that at least EWT is consistent in his crazed outlook. This isn’t the first time he’s posted such deranged drivel.


120 posted on 10/18/2007 12:20:26 PM PDT by kenth
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To: EndWelfareToday

Wow...I had no idea that as a microbiologist and MRSA researcher I was a sorceror! I’ll have to try out my new, cool powers.

Really...STFU.


121 posted on 10/18/2007 12:22:18 PM PDT by Libertarianchick
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To: ArrogantBustard

ROTFLMAO!!!! It IS the eye of the hildabeest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


122 posted on 10/18/2007 12:23:53 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: headsonpikes
the incomparable fchristian

Did he get banned, or just wander off? The forum is a little less colourful without him.

123 posted on 10/18/2007 12:24:11 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Phantom Lord
EWT -- Absolutely I believe there is "staph" just as I believe there are lions and tigers and bears but none of them will harm me or those like me

Phantom lord -- Show us the conviction of your beliefs. Go to the zoo and climb into the lions den.

It is written. Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy. If the Lord my God tells me to clime into a lions den I will gladly do it. After all, I used to ride on the backs of Bengal tigers when I was a child. I do not need to demonstrate my "conviction" to non-believers and I don't need to live in fear just because you do.

124 posted on 10/18/2007 12:24:17 PM PDT by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter '08)
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To: EndWelfareToday
Americans have been sold a bill of goods by the New Age movement. We have been told that we must be vaccinated, drugged, poked and prodded by snake-oil salesmen with PHDs

New Age movement? ARen't those the types that believe in holistic medicine and not vaccinations, drugs and snake oil?

Is your post an opus?

125 posted on 10/18/2007 12:24:52 PM PDT by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must not be Dismayed)
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To: EndWelfareToday
A disease caused by bacteria found in unclean, unhealthy environments.

Yup. I caught mine in a Hospital.

It is just my opinion. You don't like it don't read it.

Same goes for you, too.

126 posted on 10/18/2007 12:26:40 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: EndWelfareToday
I wonder what your opinions on pit-bull ownership are.
127 posted on 10/18/2007 12:28:56 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: EndWelfareToday
Remember folks. This is a vanity. It is just my opinion. You don't like it don't read it.

That doesn't make you immune from criticism or disagreement. I'm not sure what else you'd expect, actually.

128 posted on 10/18/2007 12:28:56 PM PDT by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: EndWelfareToday

Sheesh ... it frightens me to no end to think that you may be homeschooling. Please seek help.


129 posted on 10/18/2007 12:29:01 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: EndWelfareToday
Obviously neither you nor your friend knew God.

Prior to that comment, I thought you were a kook. Now I know you are a kook.

130 posted on 10/18/2007 12:29:27 PM PDT by TankerKC (32570 21R)
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To: EndWelfareToday
Well it's pretty obvious that you know little, if nothing about microbiology and bacterial mutations.p> MRSA is REAL. MRSA is a HUGE problem. MRSA can kill you.

You see for many, many years antibiotics were given out like candy by irresponsible MD's to anyone who had a sniffle and this practice is now coming to bite us all collectively in our behinds.

Bacteria mutates (as do viruses and other forms of microbes). They change themselves to become resistant to the drugs used to destroy them. That's exactly what MRSA is. For years the bacteria stapholococus aureus was treated with penicillin and then methicillin. The bacteris mutated to become resistant to methicillin and hence: MRSA.

And there's also VRSA (Vancomycin resistant staph aureus) as the MRSA is mutating to be resistant to Vancomycin - the very powerful antibiotic used to treat MRSA.

I have some personal experience with MRSA btw. It basically caused my Dad's death. I firmly believe that had he not become infected with MRSA he would have lived.

131 posted on 10/18/2007 12:29:54 PM PDT by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Funny how our average lifespans have increased dramatically during all this . .

Actually most of the gains have been due to the decline in infant mortality. Take a look at the people you know from the founding era (These are adults. You didn't get a chance to learn about the children.) and you will see that most lived to a ripe old age.

ML/NJ

132 posted on 10/18/2007 12:31:02 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: EndWelfareToday
A good friend of mine just got news that he will have to have his leg amputated because of this infection. He broke his leg badly, and got the infection as a result of the injuries.

I'm glad they know it exists and what the treatment is, or else it's likely he would die from it.

133 posted on 10/18/2007 12:32:30 PM PDT by narby
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To: EndWelfareToday

well, I’m really not sure about all your ranting, but since you say it works.... why don’t you say some prayers for my sister who was just diagnosed with breast cancer.

It killed my mother at the age of 42. My sister just turned 49. So, if you want to help, pray for her and stop ranting.


134 posted on 10/18/2007 12:34:20 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://realitycheck.blogsome.com - and yes, yes, I'm a "FredHead". Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Phantom Lord
I said to myself, this is not good.

It's a little reassuring to have to wait a bit sometimes. However, the last time I was in the ER, I was rather cranky about the fact that they were not impressed by the golf tee protruding from my heel.

I was pretty impressed by it.

135 posted on 10/18/2007 12:36:57 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Phantom Lord; EndWelfareToday
Show us the conviction of your beliefs. Go to the zoo and climb into the lions den.

Bears apparently are the better fighter over lions. I read that they pitted lions against grizzlies in California and invariably the lion went for the bears throat and the bear swatted the lion so hard that the lions skull was crushed.

That doesn't indicate which cage, lion or bear, gives you your best chance of survival though. If the test was which animal kills humans the fastest or most frequently, you could get entirely different results.

136 posted on 10/18/2007 12:41:01 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Whoa. Good catch there with Luke still calling himself a physician!


137 posted on 10/18/2007 12:44:18 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Study the word of God and it's origins before pretending to understand the scripture you are trying to cite. You are assuming that "physicians" use "pharmaceuticals ('sorceries') " to cure or heal the infirmed. What you fail to understand is that a son of God that is Baptized in the Holy Ghost can heal and cure the sick without the use of witchcraft/pharmaceuticals/drugs/sorcery etc. It is a nonexistent or limited relationship with God that excuses or condones witchcraft and sorcery.
138 posted on 10/18/2007 12:44:51 PM PDT by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter '08)
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To: TChris
Wow, man. You’re nuts.

Please no personal attacks on FR unless the poster REALLY IS NUTS which he is!

Disclaimer: Yes, I let my kids play in the dirt as long as it isn't known to be contaminated dirt (especially cattle droppings -- anthrax). This is a good thing.

139 posted on 10/18/2007 12:50:08 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture )
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To: Sudetenland
Yeah, and you'll be at the front of the line with the rest of those arrogant know-it-alls, whining for the government to help you when your house is destroyed by some natural disaster. Just like those idiots in New Orleans who didn't have homeowners insurance and lost their homes.

You don't know that. Maybe he can afford it.
If I could afford to not have insurance, I wouldn't. I remember the day when even liablility insurance for your car wasn't "required" (at least in my state of Oklahoma). You either bought it or signed a paper saying you could afford to pay if you got into an accident that was your fault.

My dear departed step-dad used to say "paying for insurance is like paying protection to the mob". I guarantee that he only bought as much insurance as was required by law. Like EndWelfareToday - he didn't need it.

140 posted on 10/18/2007 12:50:08 PM PDT by babyfreep (Duncan Hunter Fan!)
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To: Phantom Lord

Deuteronomy 34:7

Moses was one hundred and twenty years old when he died. His eyes were not dim nor his natural vigor diminished.


141 posted on 10/18/2007 12:54:31 PM PDT by 4Godsoloved..Hegave
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To: LanPB01

When Schrute won salesman of the year. That was my favorite episode.

From his speech:

“Blood alone moves the wheels of history!”


142 posted on 10/18/2007 12:54:45 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: EndWelfareToday
I don't need to live in fear just because you do.

I do not live in fear. But you apparently live in fantasy land.

143 posted on 10/18/2007 12:55:01 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: ml/nj

Nope, I’ve looked at the stats and that just ain’t so. This is a big part of the problem with Social Security. When it was first set up, with 65 as the retirement age, most people didn’t live a whole lot longer than that, and plenty died younger AFTER reaching an age where they had paid substantial amounts into the system. Just comparing people who reach adulthood, life expectancies have increased dramatically.

If it seems like a lot of well-known people from centuries past lived to what we now consider a ripe old age, keep in mind that those were not average people. Their success was probably in large part due to the fact that they were of above average robustness to begin with, and also lived long enough and in good enough health to continue making significant contributions to society for many years after acquiring the experience and wisdom of what was then an average lifespan.


144 posted on 10/18/2007 12:55:09 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Rick.Donaldson
My sister just turned 49. So, if you want to help, pray for her...

Father... I will to give you all praise honor and glory and thanksgiving for that which you wrought in Jesus Christ with you raised us up and seated us at your own right hand in heavenly places. I will to invoke the victory of the resurrected Jesus Christ over all sin of the old man, Satan, demons, curses powers and principalities not only in this world but also in that which is to come. I also will to receive only from you through Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit and in that I stand in agreement with you and pray that Rick.Donaldson's sister's will be honored in this matter.

Amen!

145 posted on 10/18/2007 12:56:44 PM PDT by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter '08)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Are you seriously asking for prayers for your sister?


146 posted on 10/18/2007 12:57:44 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture )
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To: EndWelfareToday

thank you. My sister would thank you too, if she read here.


147 posted on 10/18/2007 12:59:25 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://realitycheck.blogsome.com - and yes, yes, I'm a "FredHead". Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: EndWelfareToday
What you fail to understand is that a son of God that is Baptized in the Holy Ghost can heal and cure the sick...

And here you reveal your spiritual infancy. It isn't the son of God that heals--it is God Himself. Just like it wasn't Moses who parted the Red Sea.

Grow up. God can use medicine, herbs, and drugs to cure just as well as He uses anything, or anyone, else. Do you also decry surgery? If not, how do you reconcile the use of anesthetics on the patient? If you do, then point out in scripture (specifically and obviously) where that profession is explicitly damned. You're merely trying to shove God into a box in which He doesn't fit.

148 posted on 10/18/2007 1:00:19 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Quix; EndWelfareToday

Quix, endwelfaretoday

endwelfaretoday, quix

I think you two should get to know each other.


149 posted on 10/18/2007 1:00:23 PM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: ArrogantBustard

IIRC, he stormed off in a huff over creationism vs godless materialism.


150 posted on 10/18/2007 1:01:23 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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