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The MRSA Scam (snake oil shall protect thee not from zot)
10/18/2007 | Self

Posted on 10/18/2007 11:18:34 AM PDT by EndWelfareToday

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To: EndWelfareToday
MRSA is actually a bigger problem in countries, especially England with socialized medicine.

A year ago I was hospitalized for a week with a staph infection, and let me tell you, it is a scary thing.

51 posted on 10/18/2007 11:42:08 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: woollyone

It is not the fall that hurts you, it is the sudden stop at the end!


52 posted on 10/18/2007 11:42:16 AM PDT by crazyshrink (Being uninformed is one thing, choosing ignorance is a whole different problem.)
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To: EndWelfareToday
This is just my healthy, humble opinion.

Your opinion may be humble but it sure isn't healthy. A fellow Freeper, Yorkie, has been diagnosed with MRSA, and needs our prayers.

53 posted on 10/18/2007 11:42:29 AM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: EndWelfareToday
receive the perfect health of God

You mean the perfect health that Paul enjoyed?

54 posted on 10/18/2007 11:42:38 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

I don’t see why you are so upset at Ron Paul’s post. Sure he screams alot and looks a little wild-eyed at times, but this is his healthcare plan and I admire him for posting it here ;-}


55 posted on 10/18/2007 11:42:55 AM PDT by Soliton (Freddie T is the one for me! (c))
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To: EndWelfareToday
As one who nearly died of a staff infection from back surgery I can say with confidence that you are sadly mistaken. After discharge the wound became red around the edges 12 days out of hospital. I was asked to report immediately to the Orthopedics office where the wound was “dug out” with a scalpel and NO antiseptic. I got to spend 8 additional days in the hospital getting twice daily an I.V. with an antibiotic so caustic that each time it was administered it would destroy the vein. It felt like battery acid eating away at me for twenty minutes twice a day. It did however save my life and for that I only hate Doctors a little.
57 posted on 10/18/2007 11:43:25 AM PDT by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: crazyshrink

yeah but the light show...wow...like little stars!

gonna try that breathing thing again right away!


58 posted on 10/18/2007 11:44:25 AM PDT by woollyone (tazers are the 21st century version of the rusty bed frame, car battery, transformer & clamps)
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To: EndWelfareToday
"should repent and receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and receive the perfect health of God "

Well, I'm one of those people that don't have health insurance because I can't afford it. I joke to my Christian friends that Jesus is my health insurance. (but I'm only half joking) :) If I could afford it, I'd have Ted Kennedy's health insurance.

59 posted on 10/18/2007 11:44:30 AM PDT by yankeesdoodle
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To: EndWelfareToday
Not to put too fine a point on this, but you really don't know what you are talking about. I work in medicine, and this is pretty serious.

That out of the way...


60 posted on 10/18/2007 11:44:32 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Enterprise
Do you have car insurance,

Yes. The law mandates it so I am doing my part and paying to protect you from me driving my car into yours.

life insurance,

No. Don't need it and the law doesn't make me buy it.

or homeowners insurance?

Nope. Again. I don't need it and the law does not force me to get it.

What you don't get is many of us do NOT live in fear. You may wish to give it a try. ;-)

61 posted on 10/18/2007 11:44:42 AM PDT by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter '08)
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To: EndWelfareToday
YOU ARE CERTIFIABLY NUTZ, A WACKO - 100% CUCKOO (medical terms)

This is just my healthy, humble opinion. /s

62 posted on 10/18/2007 11:45:17 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: EndWelfareToday; cyborg

Well then, I’m guessing you’d have no problem slurping down a few hundred CCs of MRSA in growth solution.


63 posted on 10/18/2007 11:45:20 AM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: EndWelfareToday
I learned years ago that the medical profession is nothing more than the practice of witchcraft and sorcery and those of you that turn to sorcerers rather than to God for your healing and health are now reaping what you are sowing.

It wasn't God that fixed my broken leg. It wasn't God that fixed my staph infection. It wasn't God that healed my wifes broken back. It wasn't God repaired my fathers arm when it broke in more than 100 places. It wasn't God that rebuilt my left shoulder.

It was doctors and modern medicine.

64 posted on 10/18/2007 11:45:23 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: saganite
If the only tool you have is a hammer then the solution to every problem is to hit it with a hammer! I run over em with my Hummer!

You can get MRSA form a hummer too!

65 posted on 10/18/2007 11:45:31 AM PDT by Soliton (Freddie T is the one for me! (c))
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To: EndWelfareToday

did i make it?


66 posted on 10/18/2007 11:45:31 AM PDT by joe fonebone (When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout)
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To: EndWelfareToday

I’m speechless.........

And, I pray none of your family gets MRSA. I have it, and I probably wouldn’t be alive today if it weren’t for an excellent Doctor (and many prayers to the Great Physician.)


67 posted on 10/18/2007 11:47:01 AM PDT by yorkie
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To: EndWelfareToday

68 posted on 10/18/2007 11:47:05 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: TomServo

“You’re an idiot. This friggin’ thing damned near killed me in 2006.

It killed a friend of my family’s years ago.

Pull your head out of your ass, you moron.”

But you’re missing the point! How can you not see it?? The only reason you ever got MSRA is because you were dumb enough to get vaccinations, see doctors and use medications. All this bad stuff sapped your vital bodily fluids and therefore left you open to MSRA. Same thing happened to the 15-year-old kid who died the other day. /s


69 posted on 10/18/2007 11:47:13 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Soliton

You can get MRSA form a hummer too!

Sorry, I ain’t even gonna go there! ;^)


70 posted on 10/18/2007 11:47:36 AM PDT by saganite
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To: Uncle Miltie
Zocor has my bad cholesterol down from 187 to 95. I’ll stick with it, thanks.

Yes... I can see where a healthy diet and exorcise can be a pain in the a**.

Thank Asclepios for those cool little pills eh? Don't they make life so much easier?

71 posted on 10/18/2007 11:47:55 AM PDT by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter '08)
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To: Uncle Miltie

You may want to be careful with this one. Studies are out now that say your cholesterol should be about 130 to remain healthy. Taking it that low is only done by medication. Your natural body could never take it to 97 on its own. Just a word of caution here.


72 posted on 10/18/2007 11:48:23 AM PDT by RC2
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To: LanPB01
Yeah. So . . . who’s watching “The Office” tonight?

Foliage!

73 posted on 10/18/2007 11:51:59 AM PDT by TankerKC (32570 21R)
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To: EndWelfareToday

So was the Black Death God’s punishment or was that just a scam too?


74 posted on 10/18/2007 11:52:10 AM PDT by Millers Cave (Lurker since 1998)
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To: island_dreamer
"She's a witch! She's a witch!"
"Burn her! Burn her"
"
75 posted on 10/18/2007 11:53:11 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Never underestimate the ability of a Liberal to lie.)
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To: EndWelfareToday
No you poor thing I am a health care worker. Daily I deal with patients that have MRSA and C-diff. I have to be very careful entering and leaving their rooms so that I don’t carry the infection to another patient.

You however are either insane or putting us on. Which is it?

76 posted on 10/18/2007 11:53:26 AM PDT by linn37 (phlebotomist on duty,its just a little pinch)
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To: EndWelfareToday
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77 posted on 10/18/2007 11:53:36 AM PDT by SubGeniusX (The People have UNENUMERATED RIGHTS ... the Govt. does NOT have UNENUMERATED POWERS)
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To: EndWelfareToday

Maybe if medicals professionals wouldn’t wear their scrubs everywhere in public, we wouldn’t have such a problem. Don’t hospitals. etc. have rules, so their employees aren’t wear scrubs to the supermarket, the coffee shop, etc.?


78 posted on 10/18/2007 11:53:57 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: EndWelfareToday
the debauchery of the medical profession

medical profession is nothing more than the practice of witchcraft and sorcery

As the Christian son of a Christian doctor and Christian nurse, I take great offense at those statements. Do not talk about things of which you know nothing. It'll make you seem a little smarter than you actually are.

79 posted on 10/18/2007 11:54:00 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: RC2
Thats combined, mine was at 267 combined before meds and now is still 190ish, doing nothing about it got me hypertension and heart valve damage. I guess I’ll just turn to the witch doctors.
80 posted on 10/18/2007 11:54:18 AM PDT by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: LanPB01

I started out liking “The Office” better than “My Name is Earl.” But that has reversed. I think Earl is a classic; best sitcom going right now.


81 posted on 10/18/2007 11:55:15 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: TChris

Saved my son from a truck accident. The pickup rolled 5 times. The medical bills were close to $100,000. Thank goodness he had good health insurance.


82 posted on 10/18/2007 11:55:41 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: gracesdad
yeah...People like this really piss me off...
83 posted on 10/18/2007 11:55:44 AM PDT by TomServo
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To: TomServo
You’re an idiot. This friggin’ thing damned near killed me in 2006.

Me too.

I had a small sore spot on my arm for several days and I woke up one morning and my entire right arm was like Popeye. It was huge. I thought it was filling with some kind of liquid and was going to explode.

So I went to the emergency room. The lady at the desk asked what I needed. I said "I need to see a doctor." She replied, "about what?" I just showed her my arm. She took my info and told me to go sit down. With 15 other people in there, I figured I was looking at a half a day experience at best. In less than 2 minutes I was in a private room.

I said to myself, this is not good.

84 posted on 10/18/2007 11:58:02 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: TChris

In the extreme delivery one would think hes nuts. BUT...
There is a modicum of truth to it. We no longer allow kids to play in the mud. We take anti-biotics for every little thing.
We use anti-bacterial soap and hand cleaners.
None of the above is actually good for you, and has led us to the infections that cant be beat today.
Too many antibiotics have led to strains of bacteria that are resistant to treatment. I no longer let my doctor give them to my kids for everything. Antibacterial soaps are proving to be more bad than good.
Years ago I had an aunt who would keep her kids out of the mud, and indoors alot. We kids who got dirty and swapped germs by sharing sodas and food were healthy. Her kids were always sick.
A persons immune system needs to be able to fight and build up. Thats the premise behind vaccinations...introduce a bug in amounts that the body can build up tolerance. By not allowing our bodies to do what they do naturally we are expanding the risks for resistant bacteria.
So hes not entirely nuts. Just a little.


85 posted on 10/18/2007 11:58:53 AM PDT by donnab (saving liberals brains....one moron at a time.)
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To: EndWelfareToday

If the law mandates health insurance will you purchase it?


86 posted on 10/18/2007 11:59:13 AM PDT by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: nickcarraway

We are required to don a gown and gloves when entering an infected patients room. Last night I had to wear a gown and booties in some lil old mans room because the bag he brought in was infested with roaches. Poor thing.


87 posted on 10/18/2007 11:59:17 AM PDT by linn37 (phlebotomist on duty,its just a little pinch)
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To: EndWelfareToday
"or homeowners insurance?

Nope. Again. I don't need it and the law does not force me to get it."
Yeah,
and you'll be at the front of the line with the rest of those arrogant know-it-alls, whining for the government to help you when your house is destroyed by some natural disaster. Just like those idiots in New Orleans who didn't have homeowners insurance and lost their homes.
88 posted on 10/18/2007 11:59:44 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Never underestimate the ability of a Liberal to lie.)
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To: EndWelfareToday

If I eat no cholesterol and excercise like a demon, then I get down to 187 from >200. I’ll hang loose for more info before going back to the stratosphere.


89 posted on 10/18/2007 12:00:21 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mitt bit the apple. Hillary will stuff it down your throat!)
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To: rlmorel
For some odd reason, that looks like the Hildebeeste's eye ...

maybe it's just me ...

90 posted on 10/18/2007 12:00:35 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: svcw
What “new age” people do you know?

Why do you ask? Do you know them all?

All the ones I know do not believe in vaccinations or western type medicine.

Then you are not as enlightened as you think you are.

No one is forcing you to have health care, so what is the issue?

I'm not complaining about anyone forcing me to have health care. I'm complaining about those like you forcing me to pay for YOUR health care.
You want it? You pay for it.

Do you not believe that there is staph?

Absolutely I believe there is "staph" just as I believe there are lions and tigers and bears but none of them will harm me or those like me.

Or that the problem is over blown?

Well you tell me. 2 (that's TWO) people out of 300 million people have died from MRSA and the media is trying to work the country into a frenzy over a "possible" outbreak... YEAH!!! I believe it is OVERBLOWN. It is a scam that once again, I believe, draws undue attention to our alleged failing health care system. To me it sounds like the demoncraps are stirring up the pot in an attempt to get their blind lemming voters to put Hillarycare into office in '08.

If you do not wish to vaccinate your children against common childhood diseases fine, but do not suppose that somehow I am a dupe because I wish to keep my children healthy.

I have not called you a dupe. Why are you calling me one?

Oh, ya when you child gets measles, mumps or chicken pox please do not send them to school.

Not to worry. All four of my children have been homeschooled. Three of them are currently in college. All three of the ones still in college are in the honors programs of their respective programs and NOT ONE has ever had a childhood disease. We never subjected them to the cesspools of disease and ignorance you send your children to.

91 posted on 10/18/2007 12:01:18 PM PDT by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter '08)
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To: EndWelfareToday
Maybe you should repent and receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and receive the perfect health of God that He died to give you instead of trying to shame those of us who have into converting to your religion of fear.

er...Christ died to save sinners -- that we may rejoice with HIM with our perfect bodies at the Resurrection. Until then, we live in a sin cursed world, and that includes bodies that age, get infirmed, and eventually die. Thank God for the wonderful medicines that he provides in nature, and for the wisdom that He's given doctors to develop and prescribe useful drugs, and to have the skills to sew up the wounded.

I'm as anti-medicine as the next 'New Age' guy (well, I thought I was, ... until I read your post ... for now I must kneel to you as the New Leader of the anti-medicine crowd), but there are some illness that really need powerful drugs - and Thank God that we have them -- and there are some injuries/conditions that really need surgery - and Thank God that we have skilled doctors that can perform them.

When Jeremiah lamented: 'Is there no Balm in Gilead, is there no Physician there?', it clearly was a prophetical statement regarding Christ. Nonetheless, it was appropriate because the balm came from a balsam tree, that once cut and wounded - oozed forth a resin that had great healing properties...We should not turn our back on God's gifts of medicine and intellect, as clearly as we should not turn our back on God's ultimate gift - His Son.

92 posted on 10/18/2007 12:02:28 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: ShadowAce
Do not talk about things of which you know nothing. It'll make you seem a little smarter than you actually are.

It is my god given right to bitch about anything and everything, regardless of how much or how little I know on the matter!

93 posted on 10/18/2007 12:03:07 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Well, there is a scam. Since cholesterol does not cause heart attacks, you are taking liver-destroying drugs for ... what purpose ?

Your doctor and pharmaceutical company thanks you for your donations.

There are many good drugs out there, but the cholesterol-lowering ones are useless.

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/cholesterol_myth_2.html


94 posted on 10/18/2007 12:04:09 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: RC2; Uncle Miltie

>>> Studies are out now that say your cholesterol should be about 130 to remain healthy. Taking it that low is only done by medication. Your natural body could never take it to 97 on its own.<<<

You’re referring to total cholesterol. This other poster is referring to LDL, or “bad cholesterol.” LDL is but a component of total cholesterol.

Total cholesterol is calculated as follows:

TChol = LDL + HDL + (Triglycerides/5)

Normal LDL level run from 65-130 or so, with optimal levels being below 100, particularly for diabetics. The initial poster is right where he or she is supposed to be.


95 posted on 10/18/2007 12:04:27 PM PDT by CheyennePress (Non Abbiamo Bisogno)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Wow, so Luke, a physician who was the inspired writer of two books of the New Testament, was a sorcerer?

Just wow.

LOL Nice try my friend. Tell me. Can you show me anywhere in scripture where Luke practiced "medicine" AFTER he was baptized in the Holy Spirit?

Didn't think so. ;-D

96 posted on 10/18/2007 12:05:12 PM PDT by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter '08)
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To: EndWelfareToday
If these DemonRATs get in power the way they want to, people who speak their mind in posts like this will be taken in for psychiatric evaluations and put away like the did in the Soviet Union.
97 posted on 10/18/2007 12:05:57 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: EndWelfareToday
Absolutely I believe there is "staph" just as I believe there are lions and tigers and bears but none of them will harm me or those like me

Show us the conviction of your beliefs. Go to the zoo and climb into the lions den.

98 posted on 10/18/2007 12:06:09 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: EndWelfareToday
2 (that's TWO) people out of 300 million people have died from MRSA and the media is trying to work the country into a frenzy over a "possible" outbreak.

2!?!?!? I bet you will find better than 50 Freepers before the day is over who know someone who was killed by MRSA.

I thankfully survived my battle with it.

99 posted on 10/18/2007 12:07:19 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: EndWelfareToday

So this is how complete medical idiocy manifests itself.


100 posted on 10/18/2007 12:07:26 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (False modesty is as great a sin as false pride.)
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