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The plane crash that muted Southern rock
Florida Times-Union ^ | October 19, 2007 | ROGER BULL,

Posted on 10/19/2007 10:21:26 PM PDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Thirty years ago today, a rented plane took off from Greenville, S.C., headed for Baton Rouge, La. Just before dark, just before it reached the Louisiana line, the plane ran out of fuel and sank toward the Mississippi landscape below.

It first grazed the tops of the pine trees.

"It was like the sound of a billion baseball bats beating the side of the plane." Lynyrd Skynyrd bass player Leon Wilkeson described in an interview a decade ago.

The plane crashed down through the trees to the ground, breaking apart as it went. In the twisted, broken pieces of that 1947 Convair lay what was left of Jacksonville's greatest musical legacy.

Though there were 26 people on the plane, only six died that evening, Oct. 20, 1977. But killed along with the two pilots were three band members and the road manager for Lynyrd Skynyrd.

(Excerpt) Read more at jacksonville.com ...


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: lynyrdskynyrd; planecrash; rockandroll; skynyrd; southernrock
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1 posted on 10/19/2007 10:21:36 PM PDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I was stationed in the South for two years (1974-75) and I saw Skynyrd several times. I remember a concert with them and Marshall Tucker where Van Zant came out on stage, drunk on his ass carrying a bottle, and began singing with them.


2 posted on 10/19/2007 10:28:27 PM PDT by DogandPonyShow (America, the Light of the World.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I turned 11 years old that day. I was already a fan for life.


3 posted on 10/19/2007 10:36:20 PM PDT by FearlessFreep (How dare you break wind before me. Sorry, didn't realize it was your turn.)
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To: DogandPonyShow

38 Special was from Jacksonville, too, and they made some pretty good music also.


4 posted on 10/19/2007 10:38:02 PM PDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
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To: FearlessFreep

Happy Birthday, 2007.


5 posted on 10/19/2007 10:39:18 PM PDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Man, 30 years ago. Amazing.

This was a good read.

LBT
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6 posted on 10/19/2007 10:39:57 PM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (The Painful Truth: All the World Terrorists are Muslims! -- Abdulrahman Al-Rashed)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
“An airplane fell down in Dixie. Lord, how the people cried.
An airplane fell down in Dixie. Lord, how the people cried.
Twenty people was damaged bad. Six crossed over to the other side.

When a mama lose a young un, there ain’t no sadder loss.
When a mama lose a young un, there ain’t no sadder loss.
They’re cursin the name of Jesus, laid aneath a Southern Cross.

I stood on the ground in England, I heard a hard Southern rain.
I stood on the ground in England, I heard a hard Southern rain.
Got a taste of Bourbon whiskey, and Mr J. J. Cale’s cocaine.

Nobody lives forever; some things never die.
Nobody lives forever; some things never die.
Like we did in The Land of Cotton, they tell me that Freebird always flies.”

Ray Wylie Hubbard, “Airplane Fell Down in Dixie”

7 posted on 10/19/2007 10:43:41 PM PDT by decal (This tagline is subject to change without noti........)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Thanks for your wishes!


8 posted on 10/19/2007 10:43:58 PM PDT by FearlessFreep (How dare you break wind before me. Sorry, didn't realize it was your turn.)
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To: decal

You have to wonder what would have happened...had no crash occurred. This group would have been the biggest group of the 1980s...and disco might have been stalled out. Just one of them “what if” situations.


9 posted on 10/19/2007 10:51:43 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
After the crash, they changed this album art.


10 posted on 10/19/2007 10:57:26 PM PDT by LouD
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To: pepsionice
This group would have been the biggest group of the 1980s...and disco might have been stalled out.

Actually disco peaked out in the late '70s and was dead by the '80s. So it looks like disco and Skynard flourished at the same time.

11 posted on 10/19/2007 11:03:01 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: decal
Musicians seem to have problems with airplanes.

Before this there was Ricky Nelson (December 31, 1985), and before that Buddy Holly, Richie Vallens and the Big Bopper (Feb. 3, 1959, The Day The Music Died.)

And of course before either of those, Major Glenn Miller (Dec. 15, 1944)

12 posted on 10/19/2007 11:04:50 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: pepsionice
This group would have been the biggest group of the 1980s...and disco might have been stalled out.

Actually disco peaked out in the late '70s and was dead by the '80s. So it looks like disco and Skynard flourished together.

13 posted on 10/19/2007 11:05:47 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

My favorite band,even today.


14 posted on 10/19/2007 11:06:04 PM PDT by linn37 (phlebotomist on duty,its just a little pinch)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I was lucky to see Lynyrd Skynyrd at the Spectrum in Philly about a year or so before the plane crash. A friend of mine had an extra ticket and asked me to go with him. Unfortunately, although I had heard of the band and knew maybe one of their songs, I really wasn’t familiar with their music.

One thing I remember clearly was the lead singer Van Zant getting testy because people kept yelling “Free Bird” as soon as they took the stage. I know it’s a standing joke nowadays, but it’s based on true fact - - saw it with my own eyeballs. Ronnie finally snapped and said something like, “Yeah yeah - - you know we’ll be doing that at the end!”


15 posted on 10/19/2007 11:21:47 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVHxXAoGz80


16 posted on 10/20/2007 12:26:19 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Lancey Howard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZN4fBC2s00&mode=related&search=


17 posted on 10/20/2007 12:28:12 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: LouD; All

Yup...I was 15 when this happened and was into them then
(and still now; have the boxed set). Remember hearing the
news on the TV about the crash.

“Sweet home Alabama
Play that dead band’s song
Turn the speakers up full blast
Play it all night long”—Warren Zevon


18 posted on 10/20/2007 12:38:12 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
FREEBIRD!!

Freebird

If I leave here tomorrow
Would you still remember me?
For I must be travelling on, now,
There's too many places I haven't seen
And if I stayed here with you, now
Things just wouldn't be the same
Well I'm as free as a bird now,
And a bird you can not change.
And a bird you can not change.
And a bird you can not change.
Lord knows I can't change

Bye, bye, its been a sweet love.
And though this feeling I can't change.
Please don't take it badly,
The Lord knows I'm to blame.
And, if I stayed here with you now
Things just wouldn't be the same.
For I'm as free as a bird now,
And this bird you'll never change.
And the bird you can not change.
And the bird you can not change.
Lord knows, I can't change.
Lord help me, I can't change.

19 posted on 10/20/2007 12:46:43 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: raccoonradio; All
Does anybody know if the Steve Gaines solo album ever ever made it to CD?

I have cassettes of it , but nothing digital.

20 posted on 10/20/2007 1:07:24 AM PDT by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Thanks! That was great!


21 posted on 10/20/2007 1:11:48 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I was talking to a friend about them the other day — Rudy Guiliani needs to court southern voters, but he listens to dead opera singers on his ipod, telling people Pavarotti was a friend of his — while down south we listen to Lynyrd Skynyrd.

I went to a concert of theirs back in the mid-70’s with ZZ Top, Blue Oyster Cult and the Outlaws — I was up front with festival seating. ZZ Top was the headliner but Skynyrd was everyone’s favorite.

Second Helping is my personal fave.


22 posted on 10/20/2007 1:12:47 AM PDT by zipper
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Here’s something totally different. It was one of my favorites as a high school yoot. Circa 1968.
Blue Cheer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kJONgWKFi0


23 posted on 10/20/2007 1:19:33 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: zipper

Heh. I saw Blue Oyster Cult at Bucknell circa 1975 (Me and my buddies came down I-80 from Penn State.) Blue Oyster Cult was the headliner while Rush opened and Kiss went second. My ears rang for a week after that one.


24 posted on 10/20/2007 1:23:41 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: zipper
Rudy Guiliani needs to court southern voters, but he listens to dead opera singers on his ipod

As you can see by my tagline, I am second to none in opposing Rudy, but I am hard pressed to imagine a worse reason to support a Presidential candidate than his taste in music. Especially since I share his!

25 posted on 10/20/2007 1:30:38 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (No Covenant with Death: Giuliani Shall Not Pass!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xBJxtlwalE


26 posted on 10/20/2007 1:38:43 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQBU0uoR-W0&mode=related&search=


27 posted on 10/20/2007 1:44:31 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Lancey Howard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZreZYPXJAW4


28 posted on 10/20/2007 1:46:03 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Lancey Howard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XNry6m3Kwo


29 posted on 10/20/2007 1:47:21 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Lancey Howard

The Moody Blues, another great group, and Pink Floyd


30 posted on 10/20/2007 1:48:21 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: El Gato

Patsy Cline ...


31 posted on 10/20/2007 1:48:21 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: Lancey Howard

A name from the past. I went to see them at the Shrine Auditorium way back them ... Summertime Blyes.


32 posted on 10/20/2007 1:52:06 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Thanks! (I still have my ‘Go Now’ 45rpm record up with the rest of my attic treasures.)

Also, I remember listening to ‘Nights in White Satin’ on my Sony Walkman while sleeping under a zillion stars in the Mojave Desert (Twenty-Nine Palms) back in 1984 during my Marine days. The perfect song.


33 posted on 10/20/2007 1:52:11 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

By the way, this might crack you up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsVmsPv6_Ic

Good night!


34 posted on 10/20/2007 1:54:11 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: BunnySlippers

35 posted on 10/20/2007 1:54:38 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: BunnySlippers

Yep, and otis redding, too. His plane went down in wisconsin on the way to a concert in Madison, Wi.
And don’t forget Stevie Ray Vaughan, although his was a helicopter crash.


36 posted on 10/20/2007 1:55:08 AM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: Lancey Howard
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFfZFvvuXWc&mode=related&search= )
Moody Blues and Justin Hayward were in this musical version of War Of The Worlds. I remember when it first came out.
37 posted on 10/20/2007 1:55:48 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Lancey Howard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFfZFvvuXWc&mode=related&search=


38 posted on 10/20/2007 1:56:39 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Wow! Has it really been 30 years... I was 13 at the time and lived in those Mississippi woods near where the crash happened. I was a candy striper at the local hospital. I wasn’t at the hospital that day but we got a call that they were looking for some people to help at the hospital, they were being overwhelmed with stuff. My brother went. He said it was a gory scene. All the band members were taken there first. This was a pretty small town, about 20,000 or so. The hospital was not equipped to hand this kind of emergency but they did a great job of getting emergency personnel in. The most serious cases were taken on to Jackson. I worked at the hospital the following Sunday. We weren’t allowed in the rooms, they couldn’t have people coming in and out. Plus, if I remember right, in the beginning the remaining ones were all in intensive care. It was definitely interesting around the hospital, though. And as a wide eyed young teenager I was amazed at all the “strange-looking” people coming in and out.
They were in the hospital a while, some longer than others and by all accounts they were all very polite and gracious. They credited the hospital staff and quick actions of the emergency personnel with their survival.
Hadn’t thought about all this in a long time.
39 posted on 10/20/2007 2:23:31 AM PDT by helen crump
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To: Cheapskate

yes it has go to fye records they can have it ordered.


40 posted on 10/20/2007 2:25:03 AM PDT by feeler poobah
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To: feeler poobah

we miss you my friend ronnie the genius van zant and the rest of our brothers we lost not only in the crash 30 yrs ago all the southern rockers as you can see our little brother has filled in well we know your up in rock n roll heaven looking down upon the band making sure everythings alright ..we never say good bye we always say so long and remember this my friend ..southern rockers never die..they just keep on playin’ your gone but not forgotten bless you with all our love my friend FEELER POOBAH


41 posted on 10/20/2007 2:25:35 AM PDT by feeler poobah
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

As a hard rock fan since 1976, these guys were a no-brainer - and as a developing guitarist, they held my attention. Steve Gaines was a brilliant player, and very hard to mimic.

They got me with “One More From The Road”, one of the better live documents of a band ever put out - live these guys had a serious groove that you just don’t hear anymore, and they were all solid, talented musicians. I can’t imagine what they would have done later if they’d survived, seeing how great they were already. I’ve played ‘One More From The Road” for people who kinda know the band, and they’re amazed - “Dang, these guys were GOOD!”. If you don’t have this album, check it out, it seriously cooks, and shows the band at their best - onstage. Skynyrds rythym section doesn’t get nearly the attention they deserve, because the guitarists got all the lime light (which they more than earned).

I don’t think of them as “southern rock”, they were a rock band (No offense to Southerners, I know you take great pride in their heritage). And, one of the best rock bands ever. You don’t see this level of talent anymore - no flashy light shows, stages, costumes, or gymnastics, no corporate BS, no commerical junk, just a bunch of guys playing their hearts out, playing music they wrote and loved.


42 posted on 10/20/2007 3:00:51 AM PDT by ByDesign
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
As you can see by my tagline, I am second to none in opposing Rudy, but I am hard pressed to imagine a worse reason to support a Presidential candidate than his taste in music.

No kidding. I'm positive Reagan didn't listen to Skynyrd, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Bill Clinton did.
43 posted on 10/20/2007 3:10:29 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: john drake
And don’t forget Stevie Ray Vaughan, although his was a helicopter crash.

I never would. Skynyrd was pretty much before my time, but I was a fan of Vaughn's from the moment I heard "Texas Flood" back in '83.
44 posted on 10/20/2007 3:17:31 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: zipper
Blue Oyster Cult

Just saw them a couple of months ago opening for Alice Cooper. They still put on a good show.

45 posted on 10/20/2007 4:56:25 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: john drake

Randy Rhodes from Ozzy’s band was a plane crash.


46 posted on 10/20/2007 4:57:11 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

What kind of pilots let their plane run out of gas? Had they fried their brains too?


47 posted on 10/20/2007 5:02:39 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: nonliberal

How did you like the cowbell?


48 posted on 10/20/2007 5:20:09 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I might like Lynyrd Skynyrd a lot more if that song hadn't been so overplayed in my lifetime. LOL.

But I do think "Tuesday's Gone" is one of the most underappreciated rock tunes of all time.

FYI . . . Did you know that "Freebird" was written as a tribute to Duane Allman?

49 posted on 10/20/2007 5:28:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
38 Special was from Jacksonville, too, and they made some pretty good music also.

Ah those good memories....

you've got to hold on loosely, but don't let go.....

50 posted on 10/20/2007 5:31:47 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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