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The quickest path to finding true foreclosure bargains
MarketWatch ^ | Monday October 15, 1:07 pm ET | Jennifer Openshaw

Posted on 10/21/2007 7:37:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- You've heard a lot (probably too much!) about real estate market problems and especially the rapid rise in foreclosures. But as a real estate investor you're picking up big-time "bargain" signals on your antennae.

The headlines are ominous: some 243,000 foreclosures in August, up 36% from July and 115% from August 2006. There's blood in the streets.

So how do you get from "there must be bargains out there" to "how much will I save, and where are the best bargains?"

I like to guide any buying decision as much as possible with the facts. But while lots of foreclosures are out there, how good an opportunity they might be was hard to know. Until now.

For sale and on sale RealtyTrac, the same real estate portal and analysis group that supplies monthly national foreclosure statistics, also calculates the average discount-to-value by market -- that is, how much foreclosed homes actually sold for vs. their estimated market value in their markets. So -- bingo -- you've got a good indicator of how good an opportunity you're looking at. Search on "foreclosures by state," and then click "view (state) foreclosure trends," and you'll get a nice snapshot of foreclosure filings, actual sales, average sales price and -- most of all -- the discount-to-value.

You could page through state by state to get a national picture of where the good deals are. Instead, I went to the source. RealtyTrac was kind enough to supply me with source data in a spreadsheet. I'll share the most interesting findings.

National trends Nationwide, in the three months June through August, some 68,426 foreclosed homes sold in 2007 vs. 54,886 in 2006. The average sales price dropped from $271,000 to just over $239,000. The discount-to-market ratio increased slightly from 76.42% to 77.68%. How do you read this ratio? It is the actual foreclosure sales price compared to the perceived market value of the home. So 77.68% means, on average, you'd get just over a 22% savings or "discount" on your foreclosure purchase. That's down from just over 23% a year ago.

The best (and worst) around the country So, now the fun part: a state by state look at where the best deals and biggest changes are happening: From June-August 2006 to June-August 2007, California, Nevada, Michigan, Massachusetts and Arizona showed the greatest increase in the number of foreclosure sales, while New York, New Jersey and North Carolina posted the biggest decreases among states that had 1,000 or more foreclosure sales.

But while California heads the list in sales, the discount is relatively small -- one of the five smallest in the country at only 17%. The best deals are in troubled Rust Belt or manufacturing-centric states -- Alabama, Pennsylvania, Indiana and Ohio.

States with largest discounts Average foreclosure sale price Average % of market value Alabama $133,834 59.95 Pennsylvania 110,936 61.68 Indiana 99,255 63.50 Ohio 90,300 64.70 Missouri 144,768 67.25 States with smallest discounts Average foreclosure sale price Average % of market value Hawaii $657,211 85.41 Washington 288,397 83.68 Virginia 338,912 83.48 Massachusetts 290,835 83.03 California 437,813 83.00

Finally, trends are interesting: Discounts are increasing in Midwestern states and in New Mexico, while decreasing some in Alaska, Iowa and Texas. This may be a sign of strengthening real estate markets in those states -- or weak market values to begin with.

State Average % of market value Discount increase (decrease) Louisiana 74.04 15.88% New Mexico 72.59 12.01 Minnesota 72.79 10.50 Indiana 73.52 9.82 Alabama 63.50 7.48 Alaska 82.02 (8.03) Iowa 77.32 (5.34) Texas 78.75 (4.82) Kansas 74.03 (4.56) Hawaii 85.41 (3.47)

These facts will help you know how much to pay -- and to know if foreclosures are right for you in the first place. They may also say something about which way the market in your area is likely to go. Either way, they will help you find the "real" deal.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: foreclosure; foreclosures; realestate

1 posted on 10/21/2007 7:37:25 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

start looking when your favorite region is down by 50% according the S&P res RE index, IMHO.


2 posted on 10/21/2007 7:42:16 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: the invisib1e hand

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3 posted on 10/21/2007 8:04:14 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: the invisib1e hand

It won’t happen in the specific zip code I’ve been eying for nearly two years, since RE prices have stayed positive throughout(though down to single digit annual appreciation).

Funny, the RealtyTrac maps show nearby and newer developments with large clusters of red balloons, meaning lots of foreclosures (meaning 10, 20, and even 30 in a single new housing development). Obvious cases of developers doing some funny business with mortgage qualifications.


4 posted on 10/21/2007 8:06:20 AM PDT by angkor ("Hyeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser." Al Gore, South Park 10.06)
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To: BenLurkin

Do you happen to know how much the subscription price is after the free trial?

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5 posted on 10/21/2007 8:31:37 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI
No and I suspect this information is available from free sources — at least as raw data.
6 posted on 10/21/2007 8:40:09 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

I am kind of in the market and if somthing slick comes up I will ping...


7 posted on 10/21/2007 9:07:05 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI
If you know someone in a title company or snuggle up to a realtor with access, most title companies produce a list. The one we use does so weekly.

In Cal, if I want to buy a foreclosure or a default, I just walk down the street.

8 posted on 10/21/2007 9:10:38 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: TLI
Here's some info I came upon about 6 weeks ago. When the big numbers started to fall, the lenders would clump properties in bundles and sell them to large investors. One guy in San Diego bought 300 units from countrywide for 75 cents on a dollar.

Last month the bundles were going for 65 cents and in some places around the country 50 cents.

This is for big time investors. I don't know if you can get the same deal on an individual house. I think it's house by house and how much the banks wants out of that property.

9 posted on 10/21/2007 9:14:25 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: angkor
It would seem to me the easiest way for builders to unload inventory would be to take advantage of the FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC guidelines that allow sixty (60) days back to establish appraisal value...or change the guidelines outright.

Then, instead of offering tens of thousands of dollars in builder options and upgrades, give the builder the option to buy down the prospective buyers' mortgage interest rate to a stable fixed number.

For example, a builder could pay the mortgage company $20,000 up front to take on more risk and drop their interest rate from say, 6.75% fixed, to 5.75%.

To hell with a finished basement if it means the difference between staying or selling under duress.

10 posted on 10/21/2007 9:22:37 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: BenLurkin

Read the legal notice section of our local paper, all foreclosures are advertised for about a month, you can go to bank and get prequalified to bid at the auction. Nothing to it. The state figures given are not true, the DC area of Virginia keeps the rest of the state showing a higher amount than in other parts of the state. There is a house about a mile from me that has been empty and on the market for three years. The builder rented the three others. It is the same all over most no DC area’s of the state a glut in new and for sale by owner. If you recall Prince Williams says their property value have dropped 14% across the board.


11 posted on 10/21/2007 9:26:30 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: BenLurkin

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12 posted on 10/21/2007 9:27:15 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: angkor
"...Obvious cases of developers doing some funny business with mortgage qualifications..."

Hmmm. A lawyer friend should be getting out of Club Fed jail soon after doing something like that. Ginnie Maes—was it?

13 posted on 10/21/2007 2:20:37 PM PDT by Does so
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