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Big Pharma and Big Brother join forces to drug children (April 2007)
Douglas Report ^ | April 17, 2007 | Dr. Douglas

Posted on 10/27/2007 6:18:43 PM PDT by ddtorquee

Launched by an Executive Order in April of 2002 under the guise of expanding the scope of 1990's Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health has since received the official sanction of the U.S. Congress...

This commission is the driving force behind a massive policy shift that will literally turn public schools into mental health screening centers...all parents of public school children are supposed to be receiving written notice of these new federally mandated mental health screening policies. Some will also get permission slips to sign that will allow school counselors or other non-medically-educated bureaucrats to evaluate children for such nebulous things as "happiness indicators."

What kind of horse-manure is this? Anybody who's ever raised a teenager knows that..."happiness indicators" can be few and far between in that age group...it means they're normal!

This just further proves that the New Freedom Initiative ISN'T about bettering children's mental health. It's about drug profits. And to give you a snapshot of how much money is at stake, here's an info-bite from the WorldNet article I referenced extensively in part 2 of this series:

Eli Lilly's top-selling drug is the antipsychotic Zyprexa, with $4.2 billion in annual sales worldwide. Owing in part to its "first-line" treatment status in the TMAP program (the Texas project on which the New Freedom Initiative is based), 70% of Zyprexa sales are to government agencies like Medicare and Medicaid…

Now, imagine how high this percentage would be (and how much higher the drug's gross sales would be) if the TMAP model were to be nationalized - which is, in effect, what the New Freedom Initiative would do. And remember, this is only for ONE DRUG! The New Freedom Initiative could conceivably mandate cramming dozens of psychotropic drugs down our kids' throats.

(Excerpt) Read more at douglassreport.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: ada; agenda21; children; disorders; fascism; government; healthypeople2010; pharma; pharmaceuticals
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1 posted on 10/27/2007 6:18:47 PM PDT by ddtorquee
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To: ddtorquee

Big pharmacy’s goal is not cure, but to put every person
on a series of drugs..... for their entire life.


2 posted on 10/27/2007 6:21:05 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

I wouldnt give a dog Zyprexa.


3 posted on 10/27/2007 6:24:50 PM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: ddtorquee

big-business-is-big-government-in-disguise alert.


4 posted on 10/27/2007 6:25:15 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (keep the heat on the hillary.)
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To: Diogenesis

Patented drugs are good drugs. Very very good.

Some drugs are very very bad. They’re the enemy.


5 posted on 10/27/2007 6:42:50 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: ddtorquee
Big pharmacy will go to this if guaranteed health-care happens. How else will it survive if the government takes their profit motive away? Liberals are now finding ways to get business to think like governments.
6 posted on 10/27/2007 6:45:07 PM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: Coleus; Gabz

ping


7 posted on 10/27/2007 6:47:08 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: ddtorquee
I'm sorry folks, but if you think the drive of the left and their pocket psychologists are second to the pharmaceutical companies, to drug our children, I think you need to re-evaluate who it is that has tried everything they can to brainwash our children.

I'm not saying that the pharmaceutical companies are going to take a pass on profits, but they are not the ones driving this effort to medicate our chidlren.

IMO, there is no reason whatsoever to provide anything more than first aide at our schools.  PERIOD.

Upon recommendation from the school, parents should have their children evaluated for the need to have them medicated.  If the parent objects, they should pull the kid out and never go back.  It should not be done by people with a vested interest in controling the behavior of children they cannot control.

8 posted on 10/27/2007 6:47:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We yen to be numba one. We find Crintons to be vewy good people. Worth every penny.)
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To: Diogenesis

I agree.


9 posted on 10/27/2007 6:47:40 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Diogenesis
Big pharmacy’s goal is not cure, but to put every person on a series of drugs..... for their entire life.

You are totally clueless. Or full of you know what. I'm in middle management at one of the 10 largest Pharma companies in the world. We strive for cures every day. We make lives manageable for those who suffer from chronic conditions. We have families, too. You think we look at profits before lives? You haven't a clue.

Sign up for the DemonRat campaign now. You sound like a spokesman for them.

It takes hundred of millions of dollars to bring a drug to market.

Should my industry not have introduced clot-busters to save heart attack and stroke patients? Or how about statins to keep them alive afterwards? Or BP meds to keep folks alive who won't lose weight or change their dietary habits?

Do a little research, (or thinking) before you condemn an entire industry.

10 posted on 10/27/2007 6:48:17 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Calpernia; socialismisinsidious

This is what used to be called fascism.And we have our “conservative” president ot thank.


11 posted on 10/27/2007 6:48:44 PM PDT by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: ddtorquee

related:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1574836/posts
The UN Plan for Your Mental Health (UNESCO)


12 posted on 10/27/2007 6:49:05 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

See post #10 and open your mind.


13 posted on 10/27/2007 6:49:14 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: darkangel82

I don’t think this happened under Bush. The dates in the link at post 12 suggests Clinton.


14 posted on 10/27/2007 6:51:06 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: ddtorquee

I can’t remember, which book do I need to reread, Brave New World or 1984?

This is scary.


15 posted on 10/27/2007 6:51:32 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Romney Republican)
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To: buccaneer81

I was DRA in a big pharma for years. My mind is very open thank you.


16 posted on 10/27/2007 6:53:37 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: darkangel82

This program was going on long before Bush came on the scene. Perhaps he should have taken action. I wouldn’t necessarily argue with that, but blaming him for what is going on isn’t exactly fair IMO. And there is no love lost between me and Bush.

My focus on Bush is that he doubled the budget of the Department of Education, a department that is so flawed that the only proper thing to do with it is to kill it, drive a stake through it’s heart and bury it.


17 posted on 10/27/2007 6:55:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We yen to be numba one. We find Crintons to be vewy good people. Worth every penny.)
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To: buccaneer81

Thanks for the ad hominem.
Despite your BS, I am knowledgeable; probably more so than you.

There are good drugs.
But do you think they have to be advertised on the 6:30 news?

And there is relatively no interest in cures. Can you guess why?


18 posted on 10/27/2007 6:57:53 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: DoughtyOne

Agreed. And to think that I got flak from other Republicans in 2001 when I voiced my opposition to No Child Left Behind.(and I wasn’t exactly a conservative then, either)


19 posted on 10/27/2007 6:58:06 PM PDT by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: DoughtyOne

NEA Bump!
20 posted on 10/27/2007 6:58:16 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: buccaneer81
"Do a little research, (or thinking) before you condemn an entire industry."

Sure it takes more than 10 years or so to get a drug FDA approved and it can cost hundreds of millions of dollars to do so.

So then, what sort of folks would even try to be in such a business?

Pharmaceutical Companies make BILLIONS, and they are simply not in the charity business despite the nonsense propaganda commercials running all over the place.

Your protests are way over the top, IMO.

21 posted on 10/27/2007 6:59:02 PM PDT by Radix (When I became a man, I put away childish things)
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To: Calpernia
I was DRA in a big pharma for years.

Regulatory...just one of the many bureaucracies we (R&D, Production Technology and Manufacturing) have to educate in order to bring a product to market.

22 posted on 10/27/2007 7:00:30 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: darkangel82

We had a very strident ‘rubber stamp’ group back then that didn’t have any connection to reality whatsoever IMO.

I admire standing behind Bush on his defensible actions, but to give him blanket immunity to criticism is as bad when it comes from the right as it is when it comes from the left. In fact I think it’s even more dangerous, since the right is the only viable arbiter of moral values in this nation.

If the right can’t address truth, who will?


23 posted on 10/27/2007 7:02:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We yen to be numba one. We find Crintons to be vewy good people. Worth every penny.)
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To: Diogenesis
But do you think they have to be advertised on the 6:30 news?

It's called Free Enterprise and competition.

24 posted on 10/27/2007 7:02:16 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Calpernia

Yes, we all have a stake in this. LOL


25 posted on 10/27/2007 7:02:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We yen to be numba one. We find Crintons to be vewy good people. Worth every penny.)
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To: buccaneer81

You were ‘middle management’? And you don’t seem to get that the DRA was the review for the FDA? You all didn’t educate the DRA. The DRA was the review and presenter to the FDA.


26 posted on 10/27/2007 7:02:59 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Radix
Pharmaceutical Companies make BILLIONS,

My company plowed 30% of profit back into R&D last year.

When a family member of yours benefits from our product, I'll be satisfied, but not smug.

27 posted on 10/27/2007 7:05:45 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Calpernia
You were ‘middle management’?

I AM middle management. And some of our DRA people SHOULD apply to the FDA. After all, working for the feds doesn't necessarily require an open mind or an ability to think outside the box.

28 posted on 10/27/2007 7:08:39 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

???


29 posted on 10/27/2007 7:10:22 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: buccaneer81
It takes hundred of millions of dollars to bring a drug to market.True. And similar truths apply to other discovery oriented industries. Many smaller companies have reduced their research due to this. They generally become market driven rather tnan product oriented, if they are going to survive.
30 posted on 10/27/2007 7:14:38 PM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: oyez

Thank you for your service to the nation, my FRiend.


31 posted on 10/27/2007 7:16:22 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: oyez
Many smaller companies have reduced their research due to this. They generally become market driven rather tnan product oriented, if they are going to survive.

Well said. Some companies only make and market five or ten products. As of yesterday, my company has 212 products available, with 31 in the pipeline.

32 posted on 10/27/2007 7:19:27 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81
Or how about statins to keep them alive afterwards? ... Do a little research, (or thinking) before you condemn an entire industry.

I've done the research. Statins are poison and your drugs have put my wife in the ER a couple of times due to "unanticipated side effects."
33 posted on 10/27/2007 7:21:32 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: buccaneer81
From what I can remember it seems to me the antidepressant market right now is full of generics. The numbers of drugs on patent in that class are small compared to past years.
34 posted on 10/27/2007 7:23:48 PM PDT by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: BikerJoe
Statins are poison

You could say the same about aspirin if you had ulcers. Please don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Some kids are allergic to peanuts. Should we put Planters out of business?

35 posted on 10/27/2007 7:27:07 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: statered

It’s heading that way right now. Not too many new Brand meds coming down the pipeline.


36 posted on 10/27/2007 7:28:21 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

Just like there are SOME good education administrators....there are some good drugs.....BUT, big pharma is trying to shut down the very unpatentable products I use to have a decent life (bio-ID compounded hormones - transdermal type).....course I could be taking $10,000 a year rheumatoid arthritis drugs and the required pain killers, and other stuff for the side effects instead like one RA Doc said I should.....sooooo....while I understand your anger.....think about both sides.


37 posted on 10/27/2007 7:36:25 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: goodnesswins
while I understand your anger.....think about both sides

I understand. Have you ever been prescribed Methotrexate?

38 posted on 10/27/2007 7:45:21 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: ddtorquee
Diet breakthrough for ADHD
 
Health Experts Warn of Antidepressant Dangers for Children, Teens

39 posted on 10/27/2007 8:02:11 PM PDT by Coleus (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: buccaneer81
We strive for cures every day. We make lives manageable for those who suffer from chronic conditions. We have families, too. You think we look at profits before lives?

Yep, that's why you charge Americans the highest prices in the world, then have special legislation passed that forbids us from shopping around for the best deal. If you folks believe that's capitalism, then I have a bridge to sell you in Minneapolis.

40 posted on 10/27/2007 8:05:58 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: ddtorquee

John Dewey lives on!

“Psychology can help to constitute Great Communities in which human beings might flourish.”

And drugs for everyone can lead us to this godless utopia.


41 posted on 10/27/2007 8:10:01 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: BlazingArizona
then have special legislation passed that forbids us from shopping around for the best deal.

Having been to India and Thailand visiting Pharma plants, you're welcome to your "savings." I wouldn't give those products to my dogs.

42 posted on 10/27/2007 8:14:36 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: ddtorquee

This so called Dr. is cited in Quackwatch:

Nonrecommended Periodicals
I consider these publications untrustworthy because they promote misinformation, espouse unscientific theories, contain unsubstantiated advice, and/or fail to distinguish between reliable and unreliable sources of advice. The magazines and journals marked with an asterisk (*) also carry ads for questionable products, services, and/or publications. Few newsletters carry ads for products. Those marked with a double asterisk (**) have been accompanied by questionable solicitations.

Dr. William Campbell Douglass’ Real Health

http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/nonrecperiodical.html


43 posted on 10/27/2007 8:22:29 PM PDT by crazyshrink (Being uninformed is one thing, choosing ignorance is a whole different problem.)
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To: crazyshrink

That doesn’t surprise me. Good find.


44 posted on 10/27/2007 8:23:24 PM PDT by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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45 posted on 10/27/2007 8:30:11 PM PDT by Coleus (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: ddtorquee

more from WorldNetDaily: “A sweeping mental health initiative will be unveiled by President George W Bush in July. The plan promises to integrate mentally ill patients fully into the community by providing “services in the community, rather than institutions,” according to a March 2004 progress report entitled New Freedom Initiative. While some praise the plan’s goals, others say it protects the profits of drug companies at the expense of the public....

The commission commended the Texas Medication Algorithm Project (TMAP) as a “model” medication treatment plan that “illustrates an evidence-based practice that results in better consumer outcomes.”

...the Texas project, which promotes the use of newer, more expensive antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs, sparked off controversy when Allen Jones, an employee of the Pennsylvania Office of the Inspector General, revealed that key officials with influence over the medication plan in his state received money and perks from drug companies with a stake in the medication algorithm (15 May, p1153). He was sacked this week for speaking to the BMJ and the New York Times.

The Texas project started in 1995 as an alliance of individuals from the pharmaceutical industry, the University of Texas, and the mental health and corrections systems of Texas. The project was funded by a Robert Wood Johnson grant – and by several drug companies.

Mr Jones told the BMJ that the same “political/pharmaceutical alliance” that generated the Texas project was behind the recommendations of the New Freedom Commission, which, according to his whistleblower report, were “poised to consolidate the TMAP effort into a comprehensive national policy to treat mental illness with expensive, patented medications of questionable benefit and deadly side effects, and to force private insurers to pick up more of the tab”
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39078


46 posted on 10/27/2007 8:32:55 PM PDT by ddtorquee
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To: Calpernia

Here is a list of districts that have confirmed that they have ceased using TeenScreen or will not implement it:

http://www.teenscreen-locations.com/noteenscreen.htm


47 posted on 10/27/2007 8:42:01 PM PDT by ddtorquee
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To: ddtorquee

you forgot the headline from this article: BDS ALERT

Bush to screen population for mental illness

Of course, it’s Bush’s fault!!!


48 posted on 10/27/2007 8:43:16 PM PDT by crazyshrink (Being uninformed is one thing, choosing ignorance is a whole different problem.)
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To: crazyshrink

Here’s a list of schools by state that have implemented this program:
http://www.teenscreen-locations.com/index.htm


49 posted on 10/27/2007 8:45:18 PM PDT by ddtorquee
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To: Coleus; Gabz; wagglebee; ddtorquee

Link of interest at 47


50 posted on 10/27/2007 8:48:14 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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