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Was 'TWA FLIGHT 800' [1996, where 230 Americans were killed] an ISLAMIC TERROR attack?

Posted on 11/04/2007 10:52:57 AM PST by PRePublic

TWA FLIGHT 800 was DOWNED in 1996 by a MISSILE, not the fuel tank! HOW MANY JOBS WERE LOST DUE TO CLINTON COVERUP?? 2002 - The GOVERNMENT COVER-UP is STILL GOING ON!

TWA Flight 800 shot down on July 16, 1996. On July 15 a communiqu‚ was issued by Islamic jihad connected to Iraq. It read: "The mujahideen [holy warriors] will deliver the ultimate response to the threats of the foolish American president. Everyone will be amazed at the size of that response. Their time is at the morning-dawn," which corresponded to dusk in New York when TWA Flight 800 was downed. On July 18, they released another communiqu‚ through terrorist channels in Beirut that read: "We carried out our promise with the plane attack of yesterday."


http://revlu.com/800.html


TOPICS: Free Republic Policy/Q&A; History; Religion
KEYWORDS: 1996; inquiry; islamicterrorism; jihadinamerica; rop; terrorism; twa800; twaflight800

1 posted on 11/04/2007 10:53:00 AM PST by PRePublic
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To: PRePublic

Yes.


2 posted on 11/04/2007 10:58:44 AM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: PRePublic

Yep. Sure was.


3 posted on 11/04/2007 11:02:27 AM PST by angkor ("Hyeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser." Al Gore, South Park 10.06)
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To: PRePublic
The Clintoons are coverup experts.

The fact that Billy won't release Hillarious' papers is another example of their axiom that being "Lied to and True" is their modicum!

Ain't it interestin' that Fred Thomspon is crucified for an advisor with a felony conviction but nobody asks Hillarious why she seeks advise from a Sexual Predator, Adulteror, Convicted Felon, and an all around jerk-off!

4 posted on 11/04/2007 11:02:36 AM PST by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: PRePublic
The first question that comes to my mind is if the 9th Century knuckledraggers succeeded in shooting down a civilian aircraft in US airspace why haven’t they done it again?
5 posted on 11/04/2007 11:13:29 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: PRePublic

What nationality was the pilot of this flight? Does anyone recall.


6 posted on 11/04/2007 11:18:42 AM PST by newconhere (bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. zap)
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To: All
Thanks Freepers for your great opinion.

Dig this... interesting that radical liberals will keep fantasy “conspiracy theories” on a real Islamic attack [911] but are silent on this... since it doesn't suite their agenda

7 posted on 11/04/2007 11:21:33 AM PST by PRePublic (Islamic Hamas kidnapped Johnston & then "freed" him)
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To: newconhere

I don’t but it’s very possible that it wouldn’t matter, since the theory is a missile attack.


8 posted on 11/04/2007 11:22:48 AM PST by PRePublic (Islamic Hamas kidnapped Johnston & then "freed" him)
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To: PRePublic

I think I might have my plane tragedy’s confused. I was thinking of one in particular that an egyptian pilot was heard on the voice recorder (found) saying “Allah Akbar” or something of the sorts. I know I heard this somewhere. Im going to have to start researching I guess, its bugging me.


9 posted on 11/04/2007 11:27:27 AM PST by newconhere (bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. zap)
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To: PRePublic
For terrorism to be effective, the perpetrators and their “grievances” must be identified.

It is possible that this was done purely for internal consumption, to gratify a small clique. That would make it more like the work of Saddam who was still nursing a grudge over the 1991 war.

If al-Queda did it, won’t they have crowed about it endlessly?

10 posted on 11/04/2007 11:28:10 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: PRePublic

Ahhh, let me think, hmmmm. YEP!


11 posted on 11/04/2007 11:29:23 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Alqaida is usually silent about their attacks. Maybe somebody admits something eventually, but they aren’t Palestinian terrorists who instantly claim every truck backfire.


12 posted on 11/04/2007 11:30:26 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: Gay State Conservative

That’s why I think it was more likely Saddam’s henchmen. He can pay them a big bonus and take personal gratification.

If they repeated it, even Sandy Berger couldn’t uv swept it under the rug. They don’t make rugs that big.


13 posted on 11/04/2007 11:32:45 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: newconhere

I believe that was a cargo plane. Although the pilots on 911 where also praying as they flew in to buildings.


14 posted on 11/04/2007 11:34:51 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: PRePublic

I believe it was...don’t forget that happened just a few days before the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta.


15 posted on 11/04/2007 11:35:24 AM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (Revenge begins on December 22nd!!!!!)
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To: newconhere

If I recall correctly, that was a Middle Eastern airline with an Egyptian pilot who decided to put it into the Atlantic shortly after departure from NYC.


16 posted on 11/04/2007 11:36:43 AM PST by phrogphlyer (Proud member of the contrarian fringe.)
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To: PRePublic

I think while there was definitely something covered up, if this was done by Muslim terrorists we would have heard a lot more about it. The whole point of terrorism is public perception and response. If they pulled off something like this, they couldn’t help but brag about it.


17 posted on 11/04/2007 11:38:18 AM PST by phrogphlyer (Proud member of the contrarian fringe.)
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To: phrogphlyer

Yeah, that was a separate incident, I remember the MSM playing the “he was depressed” violin.


18 posted on 11/04/2007 11:43:59 AM PST by FReepapalooza
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To: PRePublic

Absolutely, no doubt about it. I never had a thought about it otherwise.


19 posted on 11/04/2007 11:45:01 AM PST by FReepapalooza
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To: newconhere
This may be what you're looking for.
20 posted on 11/04/2007 11:47:37 AM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: PRePublic

What’s a “communiqu”? Doesn’t that just look wrong to you?


21 posted on 11/04/2007 11:49:31 AM PST by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: PRePublic

Shoe Bomb...not shot down


22 posted on 11/04/2007 7:33:51 PM PST by Woodstock (: > CAP Mom)
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To: newconhere

That was a different plane, but nearly the same time. There was also a swiss-air plane in the same area, where every life was lost. 3 planes, same area and about the same time. I think they actually all left the same airport if I’m not mistaken.


23 posted on 11/04/2007 7:38:01 PM PST by Professional
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To: phrogphlyer

That plane, If I remember correctly, was loaded with Egyptian military officers that had been in the US, learning anti terror tactics to fight their islamists back home. TWA, Egypt Air, and Swiss’Air dc10, all three down within months, every person died. And as I mentioned earlier, think they even left the same exact airport.


24 posted on 11/04/2007 7:40:58 PM PST by Professional
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To: BIGLOOK

Thanks, I read that. I remember back in those days, how frustrating it was, that all those plane crashes, and the stories about them, never even considered, debated the possibility of terror. Even though the cole had been bombed, the embassy bombings, and a long list of other terrorist attacks back then. They all just looked the other way...


25 posted on 11/04/2007 7:44:08 PM PST by Professional
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To: Professional
If I recall correctly, EgyptAir 990 was carrying several Egyptian AF pilots that had received training in the US. Just bringing this up because I doubt whether the Clinton administration had any concerns in training fornats in counter terrorism.
26 posted on 11/04/2007 7:59:41 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: BIGLOOK

See post 24, think we recall the same thing. In light of 9/11 it seems crazy not to reinvestigate these 3 plane wrecks.


27 posted on 11/04/2007 8:15:13 PM PST by Professional
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To: phrogphlyer
If I recall correctly, that was a Middle Eastern airline with an Egyptian pilot who decided to put it into the Atlantic shortly after departure from NYC.

In hindsight, it's surprising that the pilot didn't turn the plane around and head towards a Manhattan skyscraper, but perhaps the copilot fought him. Not sure if the complete translation of the black box recording was released to the public.

Then there was the 9/11/2000 incident in Florida which I'm convinced was a covered up terrorist incident by the same cell that hit exactly one year later. I think the ID of that pilot was found in the car of one of the 9/11 hijackers in Boston after the 2001 attacks.

28 posted on 11/04/2007 8:15:18 PM PST by Perchant
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To: Perchant

I don’t recall the Florida incident. Do you have any links to additional info?


29 posted on 11/04/2007 8:20:09 PM PST by phrogphlyer (Proud member of the contrarian fringe.)
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To: phrogphlyer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1461454/posts


30 posted on 11/04/2007 8:23:51 PM PST by Perchant
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To: Perchant

Thanks, interesting read. Haven’t finished it, but it sounds more like a training accident than a deliberate attack. I don’t doubt the guy in the Cherokee was part of the plot, but it’s hard to hit a twin in something like that.


31 posted on 11/04/2007 8:28:10 PM PST by phrogphlyer (Proud member of the contrarian fringe.)
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To: phrogphlyer
I believe it was show of loyalty by the cell to impress financiers. The 9/11 commission documents showed that the cell received a huge amount of dollars by wire just days after this attack.

Before anyone knew the identity of the plane crash victims, 10 Muslims were at the scene of the crash, deep inside an orange grove, praying over Bukhari’s wreckage. This wasn’t even in the neighborhood where they lived, they traveled there to watch the crash happen.

It was covered up because the public would refuse to fly if they knew Muslims were deliberately crashing planes into other planes. There would be public demands that would lead to profiling and grounding of small aircraft. That is my take on it and I’ve given it a lot of thought and investigation.

32 posted on 11/04/2007 8:44:23 PM PST by Perchant
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To: Professional
True....and it probably has been investigated thoroughly with whatever documentation remained in the archives of the previous administration. Intelligence gleaned was suppressed by Foggy Bottom's politically politeness for presidential actions, inactions....and incompetence.

Al Q'aeda bluntly stated 'We will use their laws against them' as their method. Take this a bit deeper and we find that the terrorists use our freedom to travel, to congregate and to speak, in their attacks on the touchstones of our way of life. While Al Q'aeda is being defeated on the battle field, their damage to us is still real domestically.
33 posted on 11/04/2007 8:53:51 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: BIGLOOK

Do you think they ever expected us to fight back, in Afghanistan and Iraq? Wonder what Gore would have done?


34 posted on 11/04/2007 9:00:27 PM PST by Professional
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To: Professional
Wonder what Gore would have done?

Nothing......after all Carter won the the Nobel Peace Prize for our thirty year ordeal with terrorism while doing nothing. Gore found a way to win the prize with a short movie and campaign against nature.

What do they care about the rest of us?
35 posted on 11/04/2007 9:23:22 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: BIGLOOK

I think Gore has stated that he would have waged war on Afghanistan, but not Iraq. Of course, who knows, and maybe his idea of war is like Clinton’s, some cruise missiles and call it good.


36 posted on 11/04/2007 9:26:21 PM PST by Professional
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To: Professional
Moot.

Perhaps he would have sued for damages. Case pending......
37 posted on 11/04/2007 9:36:50 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Positive

If I would write that site I would spell it “Communique”.


38 posted on 11/04/2007 9:49:49 PM PST by PRePublic (Islamic Hamas kidnapped Johnston & then "freed" him)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

I very much doubt this. WDYT?


39 posted on 11/05/2007 11:00:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, October 22, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
I very much doubt this. WDYT?

TWA 800 FOIA Suit Yields Smoking Gun

I don't buy the gov't's explanation. IIRC, more than 200 folks on and off Long Island, NY saw the exhaust from a surface to air missile make the interception.

40 posted on 11/06/2007 12:15:55 AM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: PRePublic

No it was not!!! If it was than we would know it by now. This is about the same as Elvis sightings and UFO’s. Get off this ridiculous notion. We have only been hit twice once in 1941 and 2001 (on soil). Hopefully we never will again but it seems like every 60 years we are hit. We are already on year 7.


41 posted on 11/06/2007 1:26:03 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: neverdem
from that page:
Adding a new level of intrigue to the investigation is the fact that the video in question appears to have been shot on July 12, 1996, five days before the crash.
Gee, I wonder why this video analysis wasn't admitted into evidence? The video supposedly showing this missile was shot five days before the flight and crash. The guy writing the page makes this sound like a smoking gun.
42 posted on 11/06/2007 7:33:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, October 22, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: newconhere

Kevorkian, Capt. Ralph G. , 58, TWA Flight 800 pilot, of Garden Grove, Calif.

Krick, Oliver, 25, TWA Flight 800 flight engineer, of St. Louis.

Snyder, Capt. Steven, 57, TWA Flight 800 pilot, Stratford, Conn.


43 posted on 11/06/2007 9:44:03 AM PST by toldyou
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To: PRePublic

Jack Cashill’s theory: most likely Saddam; definitely a cover up.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0785263543/ctoc


44 posted on 11/06/2007 10:21:07 AM PST by Psychic Dice (ArtOfPsychicDice.com)
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