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Patriots complain about crowd noise
yahoo ^ | 11.5.07 | By Jason Cole

Posted on 11/05/2007 10:55:07 AM PST by trumandogz

The NFL is looking into allegations that the Indianapolis Colts piped in noise during the game Sunday between the Colts and the Patriots. The charge comes after Patriots President Jonathan Kraft became the latest NFL team executive to accuse the Colts of the distracting tactic that is against the rules. "We're aware of it and we're looking into it," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Monday. "It may just be the TV feed from CBS, but we're checking it out." Observers at the game said there seemed to be a "skip" in the sound during the game Sunday, which the Patriots won 24-20. That might confirm the long-held suspicion among many people in the NFL that the Colts play loud crowd noise to help distract opponents when the other team is on offense. "We're aware of the accusations, but there has never been anything to substantiate it," Aiello said. A Patriots spokesman said Monday the team plans no formal protest to the league. Kraft approached NFL Vice President of Security Milt Ahlerich after Kraft and his parents, Patriots owners Bob and Myra Kraft, left the Patriots locker room after the game. Kraft was angry as he told Ahlerich the league needed to look into the allegation. Ahlerich is the same person who confiscated a videotape made by the Patriots during a game against the New York Jets in Week 2 that led to the Spygate controversy. In addition, New England quarterback Tom Brady also commented on how loud it was in the RCA Dome. "I don't know how you measure levels of being deaf, but we couldn't hear anything out there," Brady said. This is the latest in a string of incidents between the teams that have fueled the growing Colts-Pats rivalry. In the past, Colts General Manager Bill Polian has vehemently argued that the Patriots have bent the rules in terms of use of replay challenges and the pass interference rule.


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1 posted on 11/05/2007 10:55:09 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

Cheaters accusing someone of cheating...That’s rich!!


2 posted on 11/05/2007 10:56:13 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.../ Get well Soon John Force!!!)
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To: trumandogz

Wow the cheaters whining about someone maybe cheating priceless


3 posted on 11/05/2007 10:56:38 AM PST by CONSERVE
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

great minds think alike


4 posted on 11/05/2007 10:57:16 AM PST by CONSERVE
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To: trumandogz

“The charge comes after Patriots President Jonathan Kraft became the latest NFL team executive to accuse the Colts of the distracting tactic that is against the rules.”

I remember the Steeler accusing the Colts of the same thing. Were there other teams?


5 posted on 11/05/2007 10:57:58 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: CONSERVE

Oh Boo Hoo for Belly-puke. Poor baby! Couldn’t hear while he was cheating? Why wasn’t he thrown out of the NFL? Aren’t there any standards?


6 posted on 11/05/2007 10:58:21 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
It is sad that the Super Bowl Champion Colts who play in a dome would have to pump in crowd noise.

What is wrong with Colt’s fans that they cannot be loud enough on their own with out the aid of canned crowd noise.

This is nothing more than an Affirmative Action Program for Colt’s fans.

7 posted on 11/05/2007 10:59:20 AM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: trumandogz

Holy Milli-Vanilli, Batman, “Observers at the game said there seemed to be a “skip” in the sound during the game Sunday?” ROFL. Dungy better go to confession.


8 posted on 11/05/2007 10:59:44 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: Hoodlum91
I remember the Steeler accusing the Colts of the same thing. Were there other teams?

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I don't know. This is the first I recall hearing of the charge.

9 posted on 11/05/2007 11:00:07 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trumandogz

I don’t think I will ever understand the concept of cheating to win. I wouldn’t feel like I had won if I had to cheat to do it. Of course, I’m not a Democrat. Seems to be second nature to them.


10 posted on 11/05/2007 11:00:30 AM PST by EggsAckley
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To: trumandogz

This is going to be fun. Hilarious if true. Didn’t seem to effect the Pats offense.


11 posted on 11/05/2007 11:01:05 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: laweeks

Nope, the kettle is simply calling the pot’s attention to the mirror.


12 posted on 11/05/2007 11:01:05 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: NonValueAdded

This is an indictment of Colt’s fans who cannot be loud enough to support their team’s defense.


13 posted on 11/05/2007 11:02:36 AM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: trumandogz

The Colts have been doing this for a long time. When the visiting team’s offense is on the field, the place turns into the Permanent Hearing Loss Dome, complete with strange squawking sounds coming from the loudspeakers at key moments. But whenever the Slit-Eyed Hillbilly is on the field, you can hear a pin drop. Didn’t matter yesterday though, because the Pats are a better team, even with the referees making non-existent interference calls against them.


14 posted on 11/05/2007 11:03:24 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I think it’s kinda nice that Tim Donaghy found work as an NFL official, even if he had to use an assumed name.


15 posted on 11/05/2007 11:03:46 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: andy58-in-nh
even with the referees making non-existent interference calls against them.

I think it’s kinda nice that Tim Donaghy found work as an NFL official, even if he had to use an assumed name.

16 posted on 11/05/2007 11:04:48 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: trumandogz
There may be something here.

I only watched the 4th quarter of the game. At one point, when the Patriots had the ball, I noticed that the crowd noise was especially loud. Just after I thought that, there seemed to be a rapid fire glitch in the crowd noise that lasted several seconds (imagine a stuck record, but much faster). The announcers talked normal through that glitch, so I don’t think it was a problem with the broadcast.

17 posted on 11/05/2007 11:05:23 AM PST by rightsmart
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To: andy58-in-nh
But whenever the Slit-Eyed Hillbilly is on the field...

That Slit-Eyed Hillbilly is a neighbor of mine. Okay, not right now but her grew-up a couple blocks from my house.

18 posted on 11/05/2007 11:05:59 AM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: trisham

I don’t think the Steelers made a formal complaint, but some players definitely mentioned the practice of piping in extra sound at Indy.


19 posted on 11/05/2007 11:06:28 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: rightsmart

If so it will not be hard for the NFL to determine if the Colts did pump in crowd noise.


20 posted on 11/05/2007 11:07:21 AM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I think it’s kinda nice that Tim Donaghy found work as an NFL official, even if he had to use an assumed name.

I thought that was Ben Dreith out there.

21 posted on 11/05/2007 11:07:32 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: SoothingDave

I heard on WEEI that there was also a problem with QB to coach communication.


22 posted on 11/05/2007 11:07:49 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trumandogz

I wonder if noise levels, whether naturally produced or not, can cause hearing loss and if any entity could be held liable for it?

Paging John Edwards!!!


23 posted on 11/05/2007 11:11:04 AM PST by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must not be Dismayed)
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To: trisham

I was waiting for the moment when Peyton Manning would run out on the field and hit Tom Brady with a folding chair.


24 posted on 11/05/2007 11:11:46 AM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: trumandogz

LOL!


25 posted on 11/05/2007 11:13:04 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: laweeks

How were the patriots cheating?


26 posted on 11/05/2007 11:15:11 AM PST by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: andy58-in-nh

How many people remember ole number 12?


27 posted on 11/05/2007 11:16:50 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: trisham

They have had that complaint many times.
I had more of an issue with piss poor ref’ing.
I think someone had some bets on the spread.


28 posted on 11/05/2007 11:17:08 AM PST by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: NonValueAdded

Dungy is a saint, you know that. He would never try to push the envelope to help his team win or to give himself a home field advantage. Of course not.
By the way, whats Chinless Manning going to be shilling this week? Feminine Hygene products?


29 posted on 11/05/2007 11:18:42 AM PST by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: Holicheese

By showing their dominance in the face
of adversity. Whaaaa whaaa ....


30 posted on 11/05/2007 11:19:28 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: andy58-in-nh

The Rams used to open the door to the stadium when the visiting team was going for a long field goal.
Anyone who thinks that every team isn’t doing what ever they can to win is a dope.

I think that there is just alot of sad little Patriot haters wishing that they had TFB behind center and teddy Brusche on their defense.


31 posted on 11/05/2007 11:21:12 AM PST by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: Holicheese
The refereeing was unbelievably bad.
32 posted on 11/05/2007 11:21:37 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trumandogz

“Okay, not right now but her grew-up a couple blocks from my house.”

I almost got run over by Sean Connory... Did you and Chinless play GI Joes?


33 posted on 11/05/2007 11:22:05 AM PST by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I guarantee you that Sugar Bear Hamilton remembers him.
34 posted on 11/05/2007 11:22:06 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: rightsmart
rapid fire glitch in the crowd noise that lasted several seconds (imagine a stuck record, but much faster). The announcers talked normal through that glitch, so I don’t think it was a problem with the broadcast.

I remember that now, at the time it reminded me of what happens when a CD gets stuck. Really weird.

35 posted on 11/05/2007 11:22:15 AM PST by dfwgator (War Damn Eagle!)
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To: trisham

And the defense trying to do snap counts which is against the rules.
So did the Colts cheat to win their super bowl last year?


36 posted on 11/05/2007 11:23:08 AM PST by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: trumandogz

37 posted on 11/05/2007 11:23:55 AM PST by dfwgator (War Damn Eagle!)
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To: Resolute Conservative
But we had a player that was out and he couldn't play blah blah blah. Peyton and Eli spending quality time during the off season.
38 posted on 11/05/2007 11:26:04 AM PST by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: Holicheese

“How were the patriots cheating?”

You missed all the hub-bub last month when they fined them, I think, a quarter of a million dollars for evesdropping and filming other teams’ practices? Big news. Bellachek (or whatever) didn’t even contest it.


39 posted on 11/05/2007 11:26:29 AM PST by laweeks
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To: andy58-in-nh

Got that right, come from behind in the Colt’s house. Brady has ice water for blood.

I do not like to prematurely label greatness as they have done with Romo and others in other sports, but if Brady keeps this up he will be the best QB to ever play ever if not at least top 3.


40 posted on 11/05/2007 11:26:36 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Holicheese

No, I am quite a bit older than him.

Once in a while I will see his old man at the local po’ boy shop.


41 posted on 11/05/2007 11:26:45 AM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: Holicheese

LOL!!! I wouldn’t mind Peyton being in 50 different commercials if he were at all nice to look at.


42 posted on 11/05/2007 11:27:22 AM PST by RiverGirl01 (NFL)
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To: laweeks

Yes, I remember that a month or two ago but how were they cheating in the last two months?


43 posted on 11/05/2007 11:27:27 AM PST by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: Holicheese

I don’t doubt that many teams have employed such “clever” home-advantage strategies over the years. In Philly, they seem to break out in spontaneous fistfights and beer-throwing contests. I’m not sure that’s really designed to confuse the opposition or just because they’re mostly loaded by the third quarter.


44 posted on 11/05/2007 11:28:07 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: trisham

When Harrison patted the ref on the butt to say, “Hey pal, I know whats going on here!”
Worst re-fed game EVER!


45 posted on 11/05/2007 11:28:14 AM PST by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: trumandogz

His older brother was supposed to be the best athlete out of all of them. I think he was a wide receiver or something and blew out his knee.


46 posted on 11/05/2007 11:29:18 AM PST by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: Holicheese

So did the Giants. If the wind was right, they’d “coincidentally” open the loading dock doors at both ends of Jimmy Hoffa Field—errr, Giants Stadium—to create a huge draft in the face of the opposing kicker. They did it to my Skins more than once, and with the weather the way it can be in Jersey, it was pretty effective.

}:-)4


47 posted on 11/05/2007 11:29:47 AM PST by Moose4 (Ron Paul is like a beautiful plate of food ruined by a cow patty.)
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To: Holicheese

Do not forget Junior the intimidator and one of the most underrated rushing LB’s in the game Rosie Colvin.

The defense had a few issues early on but every game get better and better. Last night they had an issue with finishing a tackle.


48 posted on 11/05/2007 11:29:55 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: dfwgator

Re #37. A great moment in Patriots’ history. (We didn’t have much to cheer about until the last decade). To top it off, I’m pretty sure that the snow plow driver was on parole at the time.


49 posted on 11/05/2007 11:31:11 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: andy58-in-nh

My GF lived in Center City and went to every home game at the Vet. If she couldn’t get a ticket she would just go for the tail gate. I will now say that Philly has the best tailgating in the NFL.
The Vet was so terrible for any sport. I am proud to say she got thrown out of an Eagles game for sneaking in beer.


50 posted on 11/05/2007 11:31:28 AM PST by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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