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**THE OFFICIAL FR College Football Live Thread Week 12: Your Rival, Part I**

Posted on 11/14/2007 6:49:15 PM PST by GOP_Raider

Your rival. Your undereducated, cousin marrying disgusting scoundrel of a rival. Oh, sure you may say nice, cordial things to one another but let’s face it: you are fairly certain that the fan of your rival school I just mentioned is enriching uranium for Iran’s nuclear weapons program. Heck, for the sheer entertainment of it, he may kick puppies down the street and may have gotten saliva on either his SAT, ACT, or ASVAB exams in high school.

Some of you got your hostilities out of the way early (Louisville/Kentucky). Even more of you like to Git R Done during a state fair (Texas/Oklahoma). But for the rest of us, it’s this time of the month of November, when seasonal affectation disorder starts to kick in, where we play our rival and yours. The McCoy to our Hatfield if you will. Win and you have a whole year of greatness and bragging rights. Lose, and you get to hear irritating comments like “Harline’s Still Open” and, “you’re nothing but drunken idiots”, and if you say that one more time, I’m going to pluck all your back hair off your fat rolls one by one and serve them in your funeral potatoes, you self-righteous son of a---

*Ahem* sorry, got a little carried away there. Let’s just get to the games (and as always, all times are Eastern, probably thanks to your rival, those jerks!)

#2 Oregon vs. Arizona (Tonight, 9:00 pm, ESPN). America gets to see the glory that is Duck QB Dennis Dixon with their very eyes against an Arizona team that inexplicably gave Mike Stoops another year. Nothing against Mike Stoops or anything, I’m sure he’s a nice guy and chicks dig him, but unless the Wildcats are young this year, maybe it’s time to look at anyone not named John Mackovic?

#16 Hawaii vs. Nevada (Friday 11:00 pm, ESPN2) Hey, you know what the best defensive strategy in this game could be? Have both teams go for the onside kick every time they score. I am too serious, don’t laugh at me it’s a fantastic idea!

(for Bat_Chemist) Maryland vs. Florida State (High Noon) There’s still a reasonably likely chance here that the Noles may be playing in the Roady’s Humanitarian Bowl here in Boise (hey, that’s where I live!). What is Roady’s you ask? It’s a chain of truck stops…hey, don’t disparage truck stops like that, truck stops are the glue that holds America together in these troubled times!

(for Biggirl, Man50D, and CT_Freeper) Syracuse vs. #24 Connecticut (High Noon, ESPN2) I probably should have just kept my damn mouth shut last week, because I just had to say “oooohhhh, watch out for the Bearcats”. But on the plus side, this game will actually be on ESPN2. So you do have that going for you.

(for WhyisaTexasgirlinPA, hispanarepublicana, neodad, and all our Red Raider friends) #4 Oklahoma vs. Texas Tech (8:00 pm, ABC) How fun is this game going to be? The Sooners have thoughts of winning back to back Big XII Championships, Tech has thoughts of pulling the upset in the panhandle…the party in Lubbock has got to be a sight to behold.

(for Palmetto) #17 Boston College vs. #15 Clemson (7:45 pm, ESPN2) Life is sure looking up for Clemson these days. They get a BC team that went from a team that could play for a national title to needing this game to get to the ACC Title game. So in other words, right where they want them.

(for sean327) New Mexico vs. UTAH (3:30 pm) I figured it would come to this at some point, does every year actually. Honestly, I haven’t been sure what to make of the Lobos this year. They had a chance to beat UTEP in their first game, very well could have beaten the self-righteous $#@$#@ from Provo, and go into Laramie for Wyoming’s homecoming and beat the Cowboys. The Lobos are also a team that has had our number over the past several years (save for 2004). But this should be a very good game, and if we were on TV anywhere outside of Salt Lake or Denver, you all could see it—and possibly me, since I’ll be back in Salt Lake for the game yet again this Saturday.

Now to the rivalry games…

#7 Ohio State vs. #21 Michigan (High Noon, ABC) So would Michigan still fire Lloyd Carr if he lost this game? And apparently I didn’t see how Illinois could win that game last week…shows you what the hell I know. Oh, as I understand it, Ann Arbor is a lady of a morally casual demeanor, did I hear that correctly?

Northwestern vs. #19 Illinois (High Noon, ESPN) This is the battle for the Sweet Sioux Tomahawk, but political correctness guidelines at both institutions prevent me from showing you a picture of it. (Actually, that isn’t true, I just couldn’t find a decent picture of it to use. You’ll have to use your imaginations if you’re allowed to. You are still allowed to have one, right?).

Idaho vs. #18 Boise State (2:00 pm) Contrary to popular belief, potato sack races are not performed at halftime during this game. Actually, outside of French fries and the occasional bowl of New England clam chowder, there really isn’t much potato consumption during this game. The Vandals and the Broncos do play for this thing called the Governor’s Trophy, which kind of looks like a very expensive bowling trophy. Somebody around here needs to work on that.

Vanderbilt vs. #20 Tennessee (2:00 pm) A casual observer may just say “dude, this isn’t a rivalry, I bet Tennessee kicks the snot out of ‘em every year”. History may suggest that, yes. However, if you take anybody lightly, you’ll end up bamboozled with a dumb look on your face—just ask Steve Spurrier.

#25 Wisconsin vs. Minnesota (3:30 pm THE Big 10 Network) When a game that features such things as Paul Bunyan’s Axe and the kinda sorta defunct Slab of Bacon, that piques my imagination. What could be even more fun is if a real slab of bacon were on the line and the winning team got to eat the bacon and made the losing team cook it. “Wait a second…this is turkey bacon, I can taste this stuff from a mile away, nice try!”

Purdue vs. Indiana (3:30 pm THE Big 10 Network) Here we have the Battle for the Old Oaken Bucket, or the “Thank God Basketball Season Is Finally Here” game.

Penn State vs. Michigan State (3:30 pm, ABC) While doing my research for the games this week, I had nearly forgotten that the Nittany Lions and the Spartans play for the Land Grant Trophy. What distinguishes this apart from some of the other rivalry trophies is that it’s made of wood, so it offends most liberals. And it also weighs more than your average liberal college student, so they can’t sneak in and try to steal it.

Let us now look at a few other games that aren’t rivalry games but maybe they will be some day

#5 Missouri vs. Kansas State (12:30 pm) If you really want to ask Texas this you can, but K-State can sneak up and ambush you if you aren’t careful. Then everyone can say “oh, they were looking ahead to the KU game”, but I would hope you all wouldn’t go to the cliché well like that. I expect better from all of you.

Iowa State vs. #3 Kansas (3:30 pm, ABC) Out of curiosity, how often does one school have two teams ranked this high in both football and basketball? I mean that has to be some kind of record or something.

#1 LSU vs. Ole Miss (3:30 pm, See-BS) The Tigers may not get much of a challenge this week as it appears most of the matchups in this game favor LSU. But the SEC has been nothing if not exciting this year, so…

Have fun with your games wherever you are and remember…your rival’s fans may wait tables at the Waffle House and may have married their third cousin, but they put their pants on two legs and half and arm at a time, just like you and me.


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1 posted on 11/14/2007 6:49:18 PM PST by GOP_Raider
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To: GOP_Raider

Yes, I know they’re cheerleaders—well some of them. I waited til week 12 to do it, so lay off. :)


2 posted on 11/14/2007 6:50:17 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); aft_lizard; Archie Bunker on steroids; Auntbee; Bad~Rodeo; Bat_Chemist; ...
The FR College Football Ping List
FReepmail GOP_Raider to be on or off this list

3 posted on 11/14/2007 6:54:25 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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To: GOP_Raider

Go UConn!!!!

....Please also bringing your sucessful A++++ game to these last two games and do not let the lose to Cincy hurt your sucess in the process. :)


4 posted on 11/14/2007 7:02:22 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: GOP_Raider
Game of the Week
5 posted on 11/14/2007 7:03:09 PM PST by scott says
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To: scott says

That game’s been on WGN the past few years I think, I keep telling myself I’m going to get a TiVo...eh, one of these days...


6 posted on 11/14/2007 7:05:32 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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To: Biggirl

The nice thing is now everybody gets to watch the UConn game! :)


7 posted on 11/14/2007 7:06:17 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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To: GOP_Raider

Its usually on HDnet every year. 9-0 Yale going for the perfect season.
Should be in the BCS title game if they win /s


8 posted on 11/14/2007 7:08:14 PM PST by scott says
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To: GOP_Raider
*****So would Michigan still fire Lloyd Carr if he lost this game?****

I read in USATODAY that Lloyd Carr some years ago had it built into his contract that this could be his last year of coaching UM and he would still get paid for the rest of his contract.

As for Ohio State on saturday I think we'll know half way thru the 1st qtr if Ohio St is "mentally there" for this game.

I don't think UM can win without Henne. They can win without Hart but they can not win without Henne.

9 posted on 11/14/2007 7:09:04 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (We are all Duck fans now!!!!!!)
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To: scott says
Should be in the BCS title game if they win /s

Hey, you mess with the Skull and Bones and the Skull and Bones will mess with you!

10 posted on 11/14/2007 7:11:15 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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To: GOP_Raider

Honrstly for this so-called riilary weekend the games this weekend are kindof a dud....next weekend we get Alabama-Auburn, Georgia-Georgia Tech, Florida-FSU.


11 posted on 11/14/2007 7:12:14 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (We are all Duck fans now!!!!!!)
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To: GOP_Raider

I don’t think WGN is showing it this year.


12 posted on 11/14/2007 7:14:24 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (We are all Duck fans now!!!!!!)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

Yeah, that’s why it’s only Part I. Part II and a Part II 1/2 in Dec. will be even better.


13 posted on 11/14/2007 7:14:30 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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To: GOP_Raider

Plus, also this game UConn can win. This will help them to bounce back and get them ready for West Virgina.


14 posted on 11/14/2007 7:15:56 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: scott says
****Should be in the BCS title game if they win /s****

My nephew went to Harvard Law School a few years back when Harvard had an undefeated football team and he said the quality of football was below that of Pennsylvania high school football.

15 posted on 11/14/2007 7:17:27 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (We are all Duck fans now!!!!!!)
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To: Biggirl; CT-Freeper

Man, what has happened to Syracuse where UConn considers it a “Game they can win?”


16 posted on 11/14/2007 7:19:18 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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To: GOP_Raider

Well Syracuse is the only Big East football team to be shut out of a possible bowl placement. All the other teams are now bowl acceptable, with so many bowl placements.


17 posted on 11/14/2007 7:21:40 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
Ivy League football is pretty lame The Yale/Harvard game is the only one worth checking out just for the rivalry and history. This is the 124th edition of “The Game”.
18 posted on 11/14/2007 7:22:58 PM PST by scott says
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To: scott says

It’s too bad that the Ivy League schools don’t participate in the I-AA Playoffs. The old days around here in the Big Sky—when Boise State, Idaho, and Nevada were in it—were pretty compelling games to watch.


19 posted on 11/14/2007 7:27:57 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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To: GOP_Raider
The I-AA playoff games can pretty good matches.
Maybe someday the bozos in I-A will figure out how to make it work—wouldn’t that be nice!
20 posted on 11/14/2007 7:34:35 PM PST by scott says
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To: scott says

My idea would have been to start the playoffs in I-A (FBS) whatever it’s called sometime around Christmas, then have the national title game in between the NFL’s Conference Title games and the Super Bowl. Imagine that...three weekends of championship football!!


21 posted on 11/14/2007 7:40:44 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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To: GOP_Raider
For some unexplained reason the major sports media outlets have only been talking about the BCS polls but no mention of the FWIW top ten. A the risk of sounding like Colonel Jessup maybe they can't handle the truth. Yes Ohio State is still #1!

Ohio State
Kansas
LSU
Virginia
Missouri
Illinois
Oklahoma
Georgia
Texas
Penn State
22 posted on 11/14/2007 7:52:39 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: GOP_Raider
But on the plus side, this game will actually be on ESPN2. So you do have that going for you.

Big deal. The only games they televise locally are the games I see in person, including Saturday.
23 posted on 11/14/2007 7:54:40 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: GOP_Raider
Saban in two years   


24 posted on 11/14/2007 7:55:59 PM PST by Despot of the Delta ("Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience")
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To: scott says
Should be in the BCS title game if they win /s

The only thing is the Ivy League doesn't play post season football games.
25 posted on 11/14/2007 7:57:23 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: Man50D
****Yes Ohio State is still #1!****

Cool!!!

26 posted on 11/14/2007 8:07:54 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (We are all Duck fans now!!!!!!)
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To: GOP_Raider
I came up with an idea for a College Football Playoffs....here's how it works....You take 6 teams (winners of the Big Ten, SEC, Big East, ACC, Big 12 and Pac 10)....You then have a comittee of 20 former coaches and they determine who the best 4 of those six are.

Then on the saturday before New Years we would have a final four of sorts for college football in one of the BCS Bowl cities. They would get to have two games instead of just one.

Then on the saturday after New Years we would have the BCS Cahmpionship game.

27 posted on 11/14/2007 8:11:44 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (We are all Duck fans now!!!!!!)
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To: GOP_Raider

Why are all of the Texas Tech girls giving the photographer the “L” sign with their hands? LOL!


28 posted on 11/14/2007 8:17:02 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (Miranda Lambert was robbed!!!!!!!)
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To: GOP_Raider
In case you were planning to go to Ann Arbor, Michigan to see the game the directions are pretty easy (just like ann arbor).

1. North till you smell it

2. East till you step in it

LOL!!!

29 posted on 11/14/2007 8:19:47 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (Miranda Lambert was robbed!!!!!!!)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; neodad; hispanarepublicana
Why are all of the Texas Tech girls giving the photographer the “L” sign with their hands? LOL!

You guys want to take this one?

30 posted on 11/14/2007 8:23:32 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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To: Despot of the Delta

If LSU goes to the national title game this year, I’ll have to do a “Despot of the Delta’s Greatest Hits” montage of all of the greatest hits of the Despot. Someone remind me...


31 posted on 11/14/2007 8:24:32 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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To: GOP_Raider; fkabuckeyesrule; neodad; hispanarepublicana
Bobby Knight says, "Guns Up Baby!!! "


32 posted on 11/14/2007 9:03:09 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Guns up Red Raiders!)
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To: GOP_Raider
This weeks opponent.


33 posted on 11/14/2007 9:51:43 PM PST by Despot of the Delta ("Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience")
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
****Yes Ohio State is still #1!****

Cool!!!

Sorry, I can't resist.

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34 posted on 11/14/2007 10:08:55 PM PST by Despot of the Delta ("Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience")
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To: Despot of the Delta; fkabuckeyesrule

Have you had that saved up until the right moment? Considering the number of Buckeye fans we have here, that could be slightly incendiary. :)


35 posted on 11/15/2007 12:08:51 AM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
Then on the saturday after New Years we would have the BCS Cahmpionship game.

It still comes down to money. Your system would eliminate a lot of bowl games and therefore money. The bowl sponsors would never agree.

Here's another idea. Have a 16 team playoff system as they do in 1AA/subdivision or whatever they call it. That would be 15 games. The BCS select 15 bowls to part of the playoff system. The remaining bowls will still have their games but not as part of the playoffs. Each year rotate in one bowl that was not part of the playoff system the previous year and rotate out one. That would maintain all the bowl games and allow each bowl to be part of the playoff system and big money for several years.
36 posted on 11/15/2007 4:06:13 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: GOP_Raider

So I don’t have to do it myself, what has to happen for my Longhorns to get in a BCS bowl game.

I know the only way they can get into the Big 12 CG is for the Sooners to lose to Tech and OSU. (assuming they beat TAMU next week)

Hookum Horns!


37 posted on 11/15/2007 4:22:26 AM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: Despot of the Delta

Freakin hilarious!

(I think UVa used a modified version of that formula last week in the Orange Bowl...)


38 posted on 11/15/2007 5:23:08 AM PST by Bat_Chemist (The devil has already outsmarted every athiest.)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

The Buckeyes were a placeholder at #1 this year. They deserved to be there at the time, because there was no one else really to put ahead of them, but were ready to be knocked off.

They’re a good team, but game before last was the first time the looked like they had a “real” quality offense...and then they had an off game against a fairly good team with an odd offense and couldn’t recover again.

On the other hand, they weren’t reasonably expected to be more than mediocre.


39 posted on 11/15/2007 7:01:49 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Despot of the Delta

OMG that is about the most amusing thing I have seen in days...


40 posted on 11/15/2007 7:51:46 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Man50D
Your system would eliminate a lot of bowl games and therefore money.

Yes, whatever shall we do with all of those meaningless bowl games with half-filled stadiums?

41 posted on 11/15/2007 7:55:34 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Man50D
"The only thing is the Ivy League doesn't play post season football games."

/s = end sarcasm
42 posted on 11/15/2007 7:58:41 AM PST by scott says
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To: dfwgator

Use them as 1st round sites for the first ever NCAA Division I-A Football Playoffs? I’m in favor of it if the rest of you all are. :)


43 posted on 11/15/2007 11:44:06 AM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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To: GOP_Raider

This week’s question: What is blue and yellow and chokes on Buckeyes?


44 posted on 11/15/2007 12:27:59 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
*****So would Michigan still fire Lloyd Carr if he lost this game?****

Q: What type of car does Jim Tressle own?

A: A Lloyd Carr.

45 posted on 11/15/2007 12:29:42 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: GOP_Raider
Purdue vs. Indiana (3:30 pm THE Big 10 Network) Here we have the Battle for the Old Oaken Bucket, or the “Thank God Basketball Season Is Finally Here” game.

That's only because Purdue managed to lose to Michigan State... I'm still embarrassed about that. We'd better whip some Hoosier butt to make the universe slightly more right.

46 posted on 11/15/2007 12:30:47 PM PST by kevkrom ("Should government be doing this? And if so, then at what level of government?" - FDT)
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Oh.. and since we're including cheerleader photos...


47 posted on 11/15/2007 12:31:57 PM PST by kevkrom ("Should government be doing this? And if so, then at what level of government?" - FDT)
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To: Man50D
Yes Ohio State is still #1!

You da man!!!

48 posted on 11/15/2007 12:58:08 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: dfwgator
Yes, whatever shall we do with all of those meaningless bowl games with half-filled stadiums?

I'm all for getting rid of several but the bowl promoters obviously won't let that happen.
49 posted on 11/15/2007 1:40:00 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
You da man!!!

Something tells me Oregon fans will disagree.
50 posted on 11/15/2007 1:41:54 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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