Posted on 12/03/2007 7:26:39 AM PST by aroundabout
After seeing Mozilla recommended on FR over IE I decided to try it. My reason was dissatisfaction with IE7 in that I got many "Explorer has detected a problem and must close" messages.
After installing Mozilla I noticed one thing that puzzles me. When visiting forums that have HTML tags in their menu bar on the posting page, I noticed that when using Mozilla this option is gone and the tags must be manually assigned as we do here on FR.
Can any of you explain why this is happening and how to correct it, if it can be corrected.
You mean like this....
Didn’t ‘manually tag’ anything.
Just copied and pasted.
And I run FireFox as a web browser.
Maybe you just need to Log In
This menu bar appears on that forum when I log in using IE7 but not when I use Firefox. It has nothing to do with pop up blockers, but maybe an ad on I haven’t discovered as yet.
Just wondered if anyone else had a similar problem.
Offhand, it sounds like something I see on a few web pages. A few web pages don't work perfectly on all browsers. Usually, this means they only work perfectly on Internet Explorer, as that is the browser that the developer of the web page most likely tested against. The page will mostly work on other browsers, but some key feature will be inoperative.
I don't use Delphi, so I am not seeing the particular problem you describe, but I see this on one of my online banking pages, where one key Submit button is inoperative (which is annoying after I just spent a few minutes filling out a fussy form, and then can't Submit it ;).
Authoring complex web pages is a difficult task. There are a zillion different browsers and browser versions out there, and some of the more complex aspects of displaying web pages in a browser are by no means adequately standard across all browsers. A place like Google, Yahoo or Amazon spends millions of dollars making sure that their fancy web pages display and work correctly on a wide range of browsers. It can take some really ugly looking hacks to accomplish this.
All browsers other than the most popular (which is clearly Internet Explorer) will be affected by this, as the risk of something not working right is always greater for the less well tested browser.
The ones to complain to are Delphi Forums -- tell them what is not working on Firefox. Though to be honest, I've never had much luck doing that with the problems I've encountered running other (non-IE) browsers. So I keep a Windows system handy so I can run Internet Explorer for those web pages I care about that don't work well enough in my preferred setup of Firefox on Linux.
I can open IE (7) without add ons also and that also seems to solve the problem. Other then this one error message i really don’t see all the fuss about Mozilla being so much better then IE.
Do you think it is?
Firefox is a good example of what Open Source can produce, as is the Linux kernel that I get paid to work on. Windows and IE are examples not of technological success, but rather of the advantages of obtaining near monopolistic control of multiple interconnected markets.
I make no claim that the above reasons apply to most normal people. I have setup and maintain computers for several relatives, and have guided them to selecting, in various cases, Windows, Mac and Linux systems.
My father-in-law, who just wanted email, web, simple documents and digital camera images runs Linux, because it cost him less, and is much easier to keep running stably, with essentially zero concerns for malware. My artistic cousin runs Mac, for its high end graphics art support. My son runs Windows, for its gaming support. Different strokes for different folks, just as some folks drive sedans, some pickup trucks, some sports cars and some motorcycles, bicycles, skateboards, and eighteen wheelers.
Thank you, I appreciate having the benefit of your experience in this area.
There’s a book I recently read that you might like, being an open source guy.
I’ve been applying it to church organization, even though that’s never mentioned as an application. A real brain twister for the traditionally-minded. I got off on it!
Figured you to be a brilliant egghead but GOODNESS!
What a resume! CONGRATS.
Pottery sale is on Thurs/Fri . . . HOSPICE bowl sale wherein we all make bowls for the sale at $10.00 whack. College furnishes the soup. Hospice gets the funds. I made only about 32 bowls for HOSPICE but that’s more than last year. Some old timers and teachers make 50.
The big gas kiln unloads today. Have several more pieces in it hopefully good enough to try and sell.
Hope to go to pot over the Christmas holidays if I can get access.
New Gateway should be here by the 12th. Somewhat eager to get KUBUNTU up and running. The 4 Gig RAM may be here a week or so later. Backordered on sale at Best Buy $40/gig
Will be supposedly able to get XP-P through the college from MicroS at a reduced rate. Good since I’m getting an extra XP-P I don’t need.
Then I have to construct a whole new arrangement for my computer and my housemate’s computer to take up less space and be more functional. And by and by a new “trackball cart” . . . a floor to ceiling raw lumber tower (on wheels) that holds my trackball when it’s not on the arm of my Laz-Y-Boy as well as pens, spelling books; printer paper and dozens of other ephemera of frequent use. I should take a pic. You’d laugh.
Anyway—Blessings this CHRISTmas to you and yours.
Sounds interesting.
Though technically, from a group process perspective, I don’t think it qualifies as leaderless. Torvald et al provide some sense of leadership as do others. imho.
But then, I come from a training that decrees that there is
NO SUCH THING
as a leaderless group. And all my experience has demonstrated that’s abundantly true.
One will surface sooner or later and usually sooner.
Well yes- but it’s a natural process, leaders rise to the top and are recognized by the group. They aren’t artifically appointed and put into some heirarchy.
Much the same way FR works- we tend to trust certain people by the nature of their posts and history.
That book is well worth the read, on a variety of different levels.
Ahhh.
Thanks.
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