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Commodore 64 still loved after all these years
CNN ^ | 7 December 2007 | By Peggy Mihelich

Posted on 12/07/2007 7:44:13 AM PST by meowmeow

Like a first love or a first car, a first computer can hold a special place in people's hearts. For millions of kids who grew up in the 1980s, that first computer was the Commodore 64. Twenty-five years later, that first brush with computer addiction is as strong as ever.

Millions of Commmodore 64s were sold in the 1980s.

"There was something magical about the C64," says Andreas Wallstrom of Stockholm, Sweden.

He remembers the day he first laid eyes on his machine back in 1984.

"My father brought it home together with a tape deck, a disk drive, a printer, and a couple of games...I used to sneak home during lunch to play [on it] with my friends."

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: 1980s; c64; genx; homecomputers; reagannation
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My only regret is that I never solved ZORK.
1 posted on 12/07/2007 7:44:15 AM PST by meowmeow
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To: meowmeow

I miss it too. Better than anything today, especially LOONIX. I had this great game where you roamed around on some prison moon planting pylons to release gasses trapped in this prison moon. I think you had to plant 10 pylons.


2 posted on 12/07/2007 7:49:34 AM PST by Duke Nukum (He burns at the center of time and he sees the turn of the Universe.)
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To: qam1

Reagan Nation/Generation X BUMP


3 posted on 12/07/2007 8:00:57 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: meowmeow

ZORK!!! What a great game! The graphics in my head were better than any on the new game consoles...

I actually DID solve ZORK, except for ONE thing. There was a little “clockwork bird” inside the egg that was always broken when I opened the egg, and it must have been worth 5 points, because that’s all I lacked to have all the points.

I did have help, though, another guy where I worked and I would go home every night and play it at our separate homes, and compare notes the next day.

That was a lot of fun.


4 posted on 12/07/2007 10:28:50 AM PST by HeadOn (Don't ask me if you don't want to know.)
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To: HeadOn
Once out of frustration I killed the princess. The wizard suddenly appeared and said I was a sick and disgusting person and then struck me dead.

Those old text games were terrific!

5 posted on 12/07/2007 10:43:26 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: meowmeow
My only regret is that I never solved ZORK.

You can download it for free from here...

ZORK I, II & III

8^)

6 posted on 12/07/2007 10:43:40 AM PST by The SISU kid (Imagination saved us from extinction)
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To: meowmeow
I prefer the Commodores in '74 (cue "Machine Gun").

But seriously, was I the only one whose first experience on a computer was a Commodore PET with the cassette tape?

7 posted on 12/07/2007 10:45:25 AM PST by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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8 posted on 12/07/2007 10:47:29 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: meowmeow

LOAD 8,1

Did I get it right?


9 posted on 12/07/2007 10:48:53 AM PST by listenhillary (You get more of what you focus on)
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To: listenhillary
LOAD 8,1 Did I get it right?

Only if you had a cassette disk drive. :-)

10 posted on 12/07/2007 10:50:38 AM PST by jmc813 (#1 in the hood, G)
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To: The SISU kid

THANKS!!


11 posted on 12/07/2007 10:51:52 AM PST by HeadOn (Don't ask me if you don't want to know.)
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To: meowmeow

Yeah. There was one on the University’s mainframe when I was in college called “Adventure”. Did you ever play that one? It was very similar to Zork, but it came first.


12 posted on 12/07/2007 10:53:58 AM PST by HeadOn (Don't ask me if you don't want to know.)
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To: The SISU kid

OH COOL!!! I know what I’m doing this Christmas vacation! Thanks SISU kid!


13 posted on 12/07/2007 10:55:15 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: HeadOn

No but in high school (pre C64) we played something called “Camel” that was a very simple text game.


14 posted on 12/07/2007 10:56:31 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: HeadOn; meowmeow
You're welcome!

Played most of the Infocom games on my Amiga back in the mid 80's. My favorites were "Hitchhikers Guide To the Galaxy" & "A Mind Forever Voyaging"...

Those were the days....

8^)

15 posted on 12/07/2007 10:58:28 AM PST by The SISU kid (Imagination saved us from extinction)
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To: listenhillary; meowmeow

LOAD? We didn’t get to that for a couple of weeks!

My wife and I are both engineers and her folks bought us a C-64 for our first Christmas together. We stayed up till about 2am on Christmas eve writing a program in BASIC that bounced one of the PET characters (a circle) back and forth and top to bottom from the borders of the screen. We put in variables to change color, speed it up and slow it down, and I think maybe flash or something.

It was a historic accomplishment, but without a storage device, we had to turn off the computer and lose the program! It was painful, but we got a disk drive a couple of weeks later. Neat memories


16 posted on 12/07/2007 11:01:09 AM PST by HeadOn (Don't ask me if you don't want to know.)
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To: meowmeow

Never heard of Camel. Was it a role-player, like ZORK?


17 posted on 12/07/2007 11:02:09 AM PST by HeadOn (Don't ask me if you don't want to know.)
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To: jmc813

Dual floppy drives. Still seems like I’m missing something.


18 posted on 12/07/2007 11:02:14 AM PST by listenhillary (You get more of what you focus on)
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To: HeadOn

Plugh!


19 posted on 12/07/2007 11:06:47 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: listenhillary
Dual floppy drives. Still seems like I’m missing something.

Just typing "LOAD ,8,1" without a filename would look for a cassette drive, which 99.5% of C64 users didn't have. You'd have too put "LOAD FILENAME,8,1" to look on your disk drive. I'd love to know which drugs I've done that cause me to remember that but forget where I put my keys an hour ago.

20 posted on 12/07/2007 11:14:34 AM PST by jmc813 (#1 in the hood, G)
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To: meowmeow

bump


21 posted on 12/07/2007 11:16:14 AM PST by Tribune7 (Dems want to rob from the poor to give to the rich)
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To: HeadOn

Yes - a very simple one with maybe only a dozen command options. I think the computer was a Tandy? Or something that began with T.


22 posted on 12/07/2007 11:16:32 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: Billthedrill

OK, Bill - remind me. I don’t recall that...


23 posted on 12/07/2007 11:25:06 AM PST by HeadOn (Don't ask me if you don't want to know.)
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To: meowmeow

Tandy would work. Or maybe a TRS-80 (Tandy/Radio Shack) There was also a Sinclair build-it-yourself a friend of mine built. IIRC, Sinclair was associated or produced by TIMEX.


24 posted on 12/07/2007 11:27:30 AM PST by HeadOn (Don't ask me if you don't want to know.)
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To: meowmeow

C64=the greatest game machine ever made!!


25 posted on 12/07/2007 11:34:24 AM PST by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: meowmeow

26 posted on 12/07/2007 11:37:08 AM PST by paltz
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To: HeadOn
That was the secret word in Adventure that...well, it did a lot of stuff, mostly transporting you to unpleasant places but sometimes solving your problem.

"You are in a maze of little twisty passages, all alike..." AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

27 posted on 12/07/2007 11:38:29 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: meowmeow

T80? aka “trash 80”


28 posted on 12/07/2007 11:42:00 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (I think I'll buy everyone a carbon credit for Christmas.)
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To: meowmeow

I still have a couple of C64’s, a 64C, a C128, and several VIC-20’s, all in working condition. Lots of Atari’s also. I wish I had the room to set some of them up.


29 posted on 12/07/2007 11:50:35 AM PST by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: meowmeow
My first computer...wrote BASIC code for it when I was only 13. Also, the first money I ever spent from a real paycheck was money I'd saved for three weeks to buy a disk drive for the Commodore. My kids can't believe that a disk drive that held less than my key ring jump drive required a case the size of a shoe box.

Imagine what their kids will be amazed by!

30 posted on 12/07/2007 12:10:49 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: Duke Nukum

Gunship...man, I loved playing Gunship. I was a stone cold killer—Did the primary and secondary missions every time and then went looking for targets of opportunity on the way back to base. Of course, I like Battlefront and the other military/military sci-fi shooters that are out these days. Last year at Christmas, my 8 year old killed me with a rocket launcher in Halo, and I whacked my nephew with an M-1 sniper-style in Medal of Honor Pacific.

Good times...good times.


31 posted on 12/07/2007 12:14:54 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: meowmeow

I absolutely loved the graphics we could do with Graphics Magic..and the BBS’s in my area were a blast.

The golden years indeed..


32 posted on 12/07/2007 12:18:35 PM PST by SE Mom (Any word yet locally on who this)
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To: Mr. Silverback

The Discovery Channel has been airing a series this week on teh rise and evolution of computer games. The series starts with Pong and ends with modern 3-D battle sims. So many fuzzy memories.


33 posted on 12/07/2007 12:20:23 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Billthedrill

Ah! I hated those passages. And even more, I hated those passages.


34 posted on 12/07/2007 12:25:25 PM PST by HeadOn (Don't ask me if you don't want to know.)
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To: Dumpster Baby

Are they worth anything? We’ve got a couple of C64s in the attic, and I’ve thought about selling them. I think one works, and the other could be spare parts...


35 posted on 12/07/2007 12:27:09 PM PST by HeadOn (Don't ask me if you don't want to know.)
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To: HeadOn
They're worth a little bit to collectors of such things, but that's about all. After a collector gets an armload of them they don't want any more. If someone offered me another C64 system at this point for $20 I wouldn't pay it. One day about 11 or 12 years ago I took the trash out to the dumpster and found a complete Atari 800 system in the dumpster. I dug it out and it worked fine. Today I occasionally see someone set their whole PC computer system out on the curb, and nobody touches it for a couple of weeks sometimes.

I read years ago that when the new C64 hit the market there were hundreds of thousands of the older VIC20 computers piled up in the warehouses, and nobody wanted them. They all got scrapped.

There's mountains of old electronics thrown out every year and only a small percentage of it has any value to any one, either as scrap or as a collector's item.

36 posted on 12/07/2007 12:44:54 PM PST by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: meowmeow
My daughter learned to type with a "space invaders" kind of typing tutor when she was 6, on a Commodore 64.

When she got to high school, the teacher couldn't believe she could type 80wpm and could skip typing class! (Tested her three times).

37 posted on 12/07/2007 12:55:57 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: The SISU kid; meowmeow
Or play them online
38 posted on 12/07/2007 12:57:09 PM PST by NMR Guy
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To: Dumpster Baby

OK I gotta ask... What would you use for monitors? If I remember right, they used oddball connectors.


39 posted on 12/07/2007 12:57:12 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: The SISU kid
You can download it for free from here...

Can I assume those will run on a PC?
Or are we talking strictly Commodores?

40 posted on 12/07/2007 1:01:55 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Clemenza

I had the cassette drive on a TI-99/4A. The “drive,” of course, was a wire connected to the output ports of a 1972 boombox.


41 posted on 12/07/2007 1:07:52 PM PST by dangus
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To: Publius6961

13” tv set

I used to love playing f19 stealth fighter.


42 posted on 12/07/2007 1:08:52 PM PST by omega4179 ("Bring me the broomstick of the wicked witch of the west")
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To: HeadOn
There was a little “clockwork bird” inside the egg that was always broken when I opened the egg

You have to let the thief steal the egg, or you can just give it to him. He has the fine skills needed to open the egg without breaking the contents.

Then, of course, when you kill him in the Treasure Room, you can take both the egg and the bird.

And no, I didn't figure it out myself. I think someone told me the answer to that one.

43 posted on 12/07/2007 1:08:57 PM PST by EvilOverlord (Socialism makes workers into slaves and couch potatoes into kings)
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To: Publius6961
The Commodores and the Ataris had a split video output. There are separate chrominance and luminance signals that get combined in the monitor. Or, an RF modulator output could feed a color TV on channel 2 or 3. The RF modulator output wasn't nearly as good. I used the Commodore 1902 monitors with the split video inputs, and I have used black and white closed circuit TV monitors with both the Commodore and Atari computers. I can't remember now if they had a composite video output, but they must have if I was able to use the CCTV monitors. It's been too many years since I looked at that stuff.

Anyway, if a person didn't have the proper type of Commodore split video monitor they would have to use the RF modulator output and a color TV set. The video quality would suck and would frustrate any one used to the sharp video quality of an IBM PC or similar computer.

44 posted on 12/07/2007 1:09:08 PM PST by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: meowmeow

Actually, the C64 had flashes of brilliance. Assembly language-style programming was made accessible to BASIC through “PEEKs” and “POKEs,” meaning you could actually write BASIC programs to directly enter memory into RAM locations. I/O devices shared memory locations directly, with no drivers, so you could PEEK and POKE your way to anything. It had virtual memory backwards: The drives were slow as hell, but the memory transfers were decent, so you could use RAM memory expansion packs as a virtual hard drive. It had a GUI desktop before PCs did.

I’d still like to know what fastrun did. It was software that made the hard drives function 10 times faster.


45 posted on 12/07/2007 1:16:16 PM PST by dangus
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To: Publius6961
Commodore connector pinouts
46 posted on 12/07/2007 1:17:29 PM PST by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: meowmeow

Camel or MULE?

The MULE looked like a Camel. It was an early colonization game.


47 posted on 12/07/2007 1:17:34 PM PST by dangus
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To: EvilOverlord

AH! Of course! I think he was described as having “nimble fingers” or some such thing... Thanks!


48 posted on 12/07/2007 1:18:01 PM PST by HeadOn (Don't ask me if you don't want to know.)
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To: Dumpster Baby

Oh well. Guess I can’t quit my job just yet...


49 posted on 12/07/2007 1:20:45 PM PST by HeadOn (Don't ask me if you don't want to know.)
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To: meowmeow

There was another role-playing game called Infidel, I think. You had to find a pyramid buried in the sand, then find a sarcophagus. My cousin and I solved that one. Shocking ending to it, for a 12-year-old.


50 posted on 12/07/2007 1:23:25 PM PST by hoppity
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