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Vanity Do the Sonar Rat Repellant Devices...
Dec 12 2007 | Global2010

Posted on 12/12/2007 4:38:04 AM PST by Global2010

I have a serious question.

We live on a bay on the Oregon Coast and this time of year the rats want in really bad.

I can D Con in the Garage because I can hide it behind the tool bench where they follow along the wall.

I cannot D Con around the house because we have 3 Labs and sometimes the other Labs in the area sneak away and come visit our home ( I don't encourage them).

So I am looking at these plug in the wall sonar rat repellants.

Do they work? Can I plug them inside next to the doors and have them be effective?

The suckers come every year when it gets cold and if I don't kill them they knaw at the door frame.

I had one come up one year in the day and as my Lab was standing over his bone barking to the nieghbor Lab up the way the dirty rat came up under him and stole his bone. I kid you not. Brazen lil' sucker.

I hate rats.

They have been known to get into homes here while folks are gone for the winter and literally destroying the interior.


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: bay; chitchat; rats; woods
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I know ya'll are going to make jokes.

But I am asking about the rodents type not the liberal kind.

1 posted on 12/12/2007 4:38:05 AM PST by Global2010
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To: Global2010

Sounds to me like what you need is a fierce CAT!


2 posted on 12/12/2007 4:40:26 AM PST by lucyblue
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To: Global2010

No they don’t work, at least not in my experience.


3 posted on 12/12/2007 4:45:12 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: Global2010

How about traps? Nice warm cozy ones. Too small for the dogs. Put the poison in the traps. (I’m presuming dogs won’t eat dead rats, though I’ve seen stranger things go into dogs.)


4 posted on 12/12/2007 4:51:05 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( "Do well, but remember to do good.")
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To: Global2010

Well, if they are using them in Congress then they are miserable failures.


5 posted on 12/12/2007 4:51:52 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: lucyblue

I quit keeping cats years ago due to the cross street down the hill is an old highway route and the young roughnecks drive their rigs at excessive speeds turning cats crossing the road to get to the fishing gear shed into road kill.

That and when it is cold they pee in the garage instead of going out to do their business.

Have had so many cats in the past years as pest control I can’t name them all.

Can’t leave cat food out either.
I even keep the garage immaculant so the rats are not attracted to things to cart off for bedding or food other than the d con.

I keep d con blocks under the hood of my van because the dirty rats crawl up and chew on the hood lining.

It is just a common issue here on the coast.

My neighbors lil dog got into some D Con in his fifth wheel that he was not aware was there due to loaning it out.
Broke his heart.


6 posted on 12/12/2007 4:53:36 AM PST by Global2010 ( Hmmmmmmm)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Like Rat Hotels?

I have decking all the way around the house and thought about putting those under the deck.

I can’t set rat traps as in the snap the neck kind due to a back injury I can’t bend over.

But the hotels I could use my handy grabbers to put under the deck and fetch them up when occupied.


7 posted on 12/12/2007 4:56:15 AM PST by Global2010 ( Hmmmmmmm)
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To: NonValueAdded

And they are spendy too.


8 posted on 12/12/2007 4:57:39 AM PST by Global2010 ( Hmmmmmmm)
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To: Global2010

They don’t work.

You need to get a cat.

Or put the D Con inside a trap but be sure to put other tasty stuff along with it.

Even if the trap doesn’t work, it will still keep the D Con away from dogs.


9 posted on 12/12/2007 4:59:03 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: driftdiver

IIRC I have seen you post about your fishing/living off the SE Coast.
So you would know about ocean/bay dock rats.


10 posted on 12/12/2007 4:59:37 AM PST by Global2010 ( Hmmmmmmm)
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To: squarebarb

Thanks I will go search some out on the internet shopping mode.

Our local Grocery store does not carry the rat hotels, just the d con.


11 posted on 12/12/2007 5:01:40 AM PST by Global2010 ( Hmmmmmmm)
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To: Global2010

There are electronic rat zappers available and they work as long as you keep the batteries fresh and the mechanism clean. Here’s the one I bought :
http://www.skymall.com/shopping/detail.htm?pid=102202272&c=

It works very well (just put a nugget of dogfood in the end of it to “bait” it and you’ll soon have an electrocuted rat).


12 posted on 12/12/2007 5:04:18 AM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: Global2010
Add a Jack Russell Terrier to your dog herd. When I start feeding the birds in our back yard, huge rats come up out of a ravine behind our house to get what ever the birds drop. My youngest JRT, just 8 months old killed a huge rat just last week. This rat was so big it would have scared a cat.
13 posted on 12/12/2007 5:10:09 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Global2010

I use a Victor electronic mouse trap (battery powered). It works great for killing mice and, once, a larger vole. I bait it with a piece of peanut. It should be too small for any decent sized rat but then I don’t know how decent are your rats.


14 posted on 12/12/2007 5:10:21 AM PST by decimon
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To: Global2010
There are rat bait (poison) protectors that allow the rats to get the poison, but keep dogs, cats, etc. out.

They also keep the poison dry, so they work inside and outside. Warehouses and resteraunts use them. They are also available in farm supply catalogs. About 5 bucks each, they last for years, and are refillable and lockable. Size is avout 10"X10"X5"
15 posted on 12/12/2007 5:10:34 AM PST by wrench
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To: Global2010

Get cats or Jack Russell terriers.


16 posted on 12/12/2007 5:13:54 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Global2010

Those are the best way in my opinion. You bait them, they throw the rat into the enclosed area. Dog can’t get to the bait and no poison needed. Only bad part is killing the disgusting creatures.


17 posted on 12/12/2007 5:14:26 AM PST by doodad
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To: Global2010

I haven’t much experience with rats but I do know they’re smarter than squirrels, and I’ve had those. I had squirrels that somehow thwarted traps, stole the food and got out, or knocked over the trap and picked the food out from between the bars.
Still, if you make a trap cozy you should be able to catch a rat. Get somebody else to do the bending. There are always folks happy to oblige, you only need to ask.
My squirrels, by the way, didn’t go for peanut butter as expected. They fell for it when I put in pieces of newspapers and a pizza crust! LOL, I think it was the dinosaur media that drew them in.


18 posted on 12/12/2007 5:15:52 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( "Do well, but remember to do good.")
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To: Global2010

http://www.pestproducts.com/rat_zapper.htm


19 posted on 12/12/2007 5:15:56 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Global2010; lucyblue

20 posted on 12/12/2007 5:18:09 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Global2010
If you hang a copy of this in your garage it will keep the rats away.

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21 posted on 12/12/2007 5:18:42 AM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: wrench

This is what I was thinking about, as you suggested.

Rat bait box, rat poison baiting station, simple and inexpensive rat bait box
Address:http://www.trapman.co.uk/rat-bait-box.htm Changed:12:06 AM on Thursday, October 18, 2007

I had one come up and peer in the window (my perch/sitting place is right up at the window for the bay view) a couple of weeks ago.

And a big fat a** rat came up on the deck last week but quickly relized dogs were looking out the door back at it.

I can handle spiders and snakes but ya’ll I get the willies and have nightmares when it comes to rats.

Drives the Cold Nose Crew of Labs nuts in the winter because they don’t get the door cracked open to go in and out.


22 posted on 12/12/2007 5:18:48 AM PST by Global2010 ( Hmmmmmmm)
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I dont know if a cat is a solution, I have 5, one might be a good mouser, heck he’s a good squireller too. I still have to put out mouse traps


23 posted on 12/12/2007 5:19:09 AM PST by Liberty2007 (left my sheeple go!)
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To: Global2010

The best thing for any rodents is a cranky cat. If that is not a choice try a professional. They bring stuff you can’t get. I have tried electronics for about every kind of pest and have not found one that works.


24 posted on 12/12/2007 5:20:15 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Has there been a code nine? Have you heard from the Doctor?")
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To: Ditter; Global2010

Oh yes, the JR terriers are very good, but lively. Maybe someone with a back problem won’t get along with them! Terriers in general are excellent rat killers, can be ferocious.
Another supposed vermin repellent, though I’ve never tried it, is wolf urine. You’d have to google that for sources.


25 posted on 12/12/2007 5:21:42 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( "Do well, but remember to do good.")
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To: Ditter; Global2010
A Jack Russell is a good idea too. They just do not come with an “Off” switch. My neighbor has two and they are great loyal dogs but they never stop.
26 posted on 12/12/2007 5:24:01 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Has there been a code nine? Have you heard from the Doctor?")
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To: Global2010

i had one and it caused a house fire....I guess it works, if you want to burn them up, along with all of your belongings.


27 posted on 12/12/2007 5:24:04 AM PST by loulou
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To: driftdiver

I know they’ve been proven to NOT work, but the funny thing is, ever since my wife plugged one into one of our kitchen outlets near the garage, we haven’t had any mice. We used to get two or three every fall/winter, but for the past four or five years, none.

Even though I know the thing doesn’t keep the mice away, there’s no way my wife is removing it from the wall. No way.

LOL.


28 posted on 12/12/2007 5:25:01 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: cweese

$40 for 1 hmmm kinda spendy but if I could put it under the deck back here where they like to pop up.


29 posted on 12/12/2007 5:25:56 AM PST by Global2010 ( Hmmmmmmm)
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To: Global2010

http://www.predatorpee.com

Also supplies bobcat, coyote, mt. lion pee. Nazdrovya!


30 posted on 12/12/2007 5:27:07 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( "Do well, but remember to do good.")
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To: Global2010

Sorry, should have pinged you to #28.


31 posted on 12/12/2007 5:28:27 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: doodad

Yeah up a few posts the disposable ones seem the way to go.

I don’t mind killing rats as long as I don’t have to view them dead or alive.

I have feed store in town that we do business with I will make it a point to pick some up.


32 posted on 12/12/2007 5:29:49 AM PST by Global2010 ( Hmmmmmmm)
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To: Global2010

My grandfather once told me that rats are good because they scare the mice away. Notice that you don’t have a mouse problem so the rats are obviously doing their jobs..........


33 posted on 12/12/2007 5:30:29 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Visions of sugarplums dancing in your head are probably caused by bad drugs.....)
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To: Global2010
No Dem jokes?

We can't point out that even Hillary's shrill tones can't run the 'rats off?

Nevermind, then.

Sigh.

-Joan

34 posted on 12/12/2007 5:31:11 AM PST by JoanVarga ("¿Por qué no te callas?")
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To: Global2010

I have the ultrasonic gizmos. Mom bought them, and I haven’t felt the need to ditch them. I haven’t seen a sign of a rodent in the residence — no droppings, no scratching in the walls. There are droppings in the basement, but I hven’t seen a live one.

Of course, I never saw rodents before the ultrasonic gizmos, so they might be like elephant repellent.


35 posted on 12/12/2007 5:31:32 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Global2010

You could try laying a trail of dog or cat food (whichever your rats prefer) from your place to the neighbors house after dark. Once the rats eat their way over to the neighbor’s they won’t be able to find their way back to your house........


36 posted on 12/12/2007 5:33:55 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Visions of sugarplums dancing in your head are probably caused by bad drugs.....)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Yeah the rats love to shred the heck out of anything they can so I could enjoy making a rat hotel nice and cozy with a bit of d con and snacks inside.

I have a landscape/property care guy come out twice a month and he would help.

Have known him and his wife in the community for 20 yrs good at lending a hand.


37 posted on 12/12/2007 5:34:42 AM PST by Global2010 ( Hmmmmmmm)
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To: Global2010

I used to have a roommate who left out cat food for neighborhood strays. I finally talked him into stopping that practice after the one pre-dawn morning I went out to the porch and almost stepped on a possum who’d come to the buffet.

I’m tempted to plant a flower bed with catnip. I’d like the neighborhood strays to keep the squirrels at bay, but I don’t want to attract them with food, because I want them hungry.


38 posted on 12/12/2007 5:34:48 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: bamahead

I am starting to feel a bit nauseous.

Like I could barf.


39 posted on 12/12/2007 5:37:35 AM PST by Global2010 ( Hmmmmmmm)
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To: Manic_Episode

Hmmm. I could put that in plastic zip lock bags and post them every 10 ft around the deck. : )

Good Lord I have to search for the Maalox emergency kit now.


40 posted on 12/12/2007 5:40:00 AM PST by Global2010 ( Hmmmmmmm)
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To: mad_as_he$$

We have had 10 JRT’s in the last 16 years, half of those we have taken in because they needed homes. We have 3 now. A couple have been hyper but most have not been. Our favorites are the rough and broken coats (long haired) ones that you don’t see as many of. If you want a JRT you need to meet the parents.


41 posted on 12/12/2007 5:40:44 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Global2010
Good luck to you...I know (firsthand) how creepy the vermin can be. No rats, but have had the occasional mouse (no...there is never just one...MICE). We used those large (rat sized sticky pads...and I dont care if they suffer when they get stuck). Also, closed up holes with steel wool and expanding foam...and because I am scared to death of them, I purchased bobcat/coyote urine (yes it really is a product that is sold) and sprayed it all around the foundation, garage entry (I really didn't notice much of a smell myself) but rodents are the 'food chain' for bobcats...sooo, I believe it worked.

When I was having the problem (back in the fall when the weather first started getting cold here) I visited dozen of websites, and people post what works/doesn't (that where I learned of bobcat pee)...but there was one funny story (had been in the news) on many sites. A man found a nest in his yard (he had been battling mice for years). He douses the nest w/lighter fluid, tosses a match and enflamed (literally and figuratively) mice run from the nest...and follow their usual route into HIS home (into crawl spaces, walls) so by the time the FD arrived the house was gone. But on the upside...NO MORE MICE :)

42 posted on 12/12/2007 5:42:29 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (I do not want people to be agreeable, as it saves me the trouble of liking them. Jane Austen.)
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To: Manic_Episode
LOL! I didn't expect to see Helen on this thread.

She is definitely versastile.

43 posted on 12/12/2007 5:42:55 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Global2010

‘So you would know about ocean/bay dock rats.”

I know there was one picked up in the bay by a local radio host. It was swimming in the middle of the bay (couple miles from shore) and she thought it was a dog. She took it to the vet for a checkup where she learned it was a rat. A BIG one.

Other than that I know they will chew thru the tile roofs, walls, and such. Don’t know how to stop them though.


44 posted on 12/12/2007 5:43:49 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: Global2010
"So I am looking at these plug in the wall sonar rat repellants."

I lived on the Pacific coast. I used one of these, and the next morning there was a submarine in my front yard.

45 posted on 12/12/2007 5:44:20 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Global2010

I tried them once, when we had liberal house guests, but they didn’t seem to notice.


46 posted on 12/12/2007 5:44:37 AM PST by NavVet (If you don't defend conservatism in the Primary, you won't have it to defend in the Election)
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To: Liberty2007

I like the sqirrels, bunnies and deer that lurk around.

The labs have been taught not to go ape crazy with the bunnies and squirrels that hang out in the brush/lawn.

We live on the bay but in the low coast range rain forrest.

We have up the way a few acres the bigger predators and on my park area away from the house where my angels are some skunks have been using the area as a potty.

Big ugley boomers up in the forrest here too.


47 posted on 12/12/2007 5:46:23 AM PST by Global2010 ( Hmmmmmmm)
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To: ReignOfError; Global2010
In Louisiana, both possums and raccoons raided the outdoor cat dish. I never knew a raccoon could scream until my wife's dog grabbed it one night.

Global, another problem using dogs to kill rats is that most rats can climb. One night in Louisiana, the dogs started raising a ruckus and I turned on the light in the courtyard and saw 5 rats lined up like Rockettes about 5 feet up a brick wall. That's when the pellet rifle came out.

48 posted on 12/12/2007 5:46:31 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Vote for Mike Huckabee or Chuck Norris will give you a wedgie!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Thanks.


49 posted on 12/12/2007 5:49:51 AM PST by Global2010 ( Hmmmmmmm)
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To: Global2010

Don’t poison them. They crawl into your house (where you can’t find them) and die. They you have the smell.

Use traps where your dogs can’t reach and seal up the entrances to your crawl spaces and such with screening.


50 posted on 12/12/2007 5:54:41 AM PST by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people. Socialist nannies do not become us.)
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