Skip to comments."Journeyman" to be canceled?
Posted on 12/19/2007 9:25:32 AM PST by pabianice
Per the website Savejourneyman, this excellent, trend-setting show will not be renewed for another season. Fans are fighting-back. Another example of the low brain-power in the network broadcast suites.
Sad. This is one of the few shows I watch on a regular basis. At least it had an original premise, unlike most of the other shows that have been running for umpteen seasons.
I think the same thing is going to happen to ‘Pushing Daisies’. Yep, the two best shows.
Never heard of it.
Never heard of it. Can someone provide a very brief synopsis of the show?
It's too much like Quantum Leap - it gets lost in the mix.
I guess I'll have to watch reruns of the much superior "Quantum Leap" to get the same type of storylines.
I am so p*ssed. My husband and I love this show! I was p*ssed that The Traveler was cancelled. Intelligent shows usually never stand a chance.
Of course the actually good shows are the ones that go and they add yet another “reality” show like Battle of the Choirs or whatever the crap they put on in the Chuck timeslot.
There’s nothing stupid about the suits, the ratings suck. The job of the suits is to get viewers and sell commercials, the best show ever made without viewers is a show that should be canceled. Journeyman debuted at #43 sank to #80 and has “rebounded” to the mid 60s. Cancel it.
“this excellent, trend-setting show”
Everyone I talked to about the show said they thought it was “goofy”, “repetitious” and “seemed like a cut and paste job”.
Loath as I am to defend the Hollywood suits, this usually comes down to the free market.
People claim that they want intelligent, challenging shows, but they don't actually watch them.
Daisies ratings are a lot better than Journeyman. Hard to tell if they’re where ABC wants them, but the numbers could be good enough. Of course with the strike now and the strikes to come next year it’s entirely possible the entire 2007 season will just be thrown away for a fresh start January 2009.
Star Trek was exactly one of those shows, the fans, resurrected it the rest is history.
I am one of those fans and as to the other garbage on tv this is very interesting and beyond the reality tv realm, fantasy at is best as far as I am concerned.
That is sad. I now watch only three TV shos (other than sports). The Unit, Numbers and Journeyman and Numbers is getting boring.
I suppose they need more room for another realitytrash or sitgarbage show to attract the brainless.
Folks - as much as I like Journeyman...IT’S JUST A TELEVISION SHOW!
Kevin McKidd was great in HBO’s Rome. I had a feeling he was going Stateside, because he’s got charisma. I watched a couple of episodes because the premise isn’t that bad. You could call it a present-day Quantum Leap.
One thing to notice @ the end: the production company is called Left Coast Productions. I saw a link on TV Guide before that just like Bionic Woman, they have a ratings problem so this wouldn’t surprise me.
“Journeyman” is a time-travel story. Sorry, but I am a sucker for almost anything of this genre. Replaying history, with a change or twist, and the results of anachronisms (like the introduction of the high-resolution digital camera).
With what you knew now, if you could go into the past, what would you change? Really a great springboard for editorial comment on so many things today. But did some things really have to happen, no matter what?
At the time Star Trek’s cancellation was just, the ratings stunk. The reason it turned into a license to print money is the fans it gained in syndication.
I’ve been a fan of many good shows that were canceled. But I don’t blame the “suits”, it’s a numbers oriented business, shows that don’t get the numbers get canceled. People forget what the business of TV is all about, the job of the “suits” is to deliver our eyeballs to commercials, we are the end product, a show that isn’t creating enough end product is a failure.
As for Journeyman I wasn’t interested in it from the start. The first commercial I saw I said “oh look Quantum Leap without Dean Stockwell”, and given that all 5 seasons of Quantum Leap WITH Dean Stockwell are available on DVD that just didn’t draw me in.
Man I hated Quantam Leap...he’s in the body of a [insert percieved underclass here]! Alright audience, Empathize!
In the jargon of Hollywood, it's "Quantum Leap" meets "Sliders".
He was great in Trainspotting too.
In all honesty, does it really matter that they are cancelling these shows? It’s not like they were coming back anytime soon, with the writer’s strike going on.
LOL! Perfect summary. And, of course, Scott Bakula’s acting chops didn’t help matters.
50,000 pounds of nuts is getting Jericho back on the air - at least for a shortened season.
Okay, a bit more of a synopsis. Dan Vasser is a reporter who gets pulled back in time to influence a life that somehow needs to be fixed. He jumps into key points in the person’s life to make a difference, but he has to figure out what he’s supposed to do or say to make that difference.
I’ve enjoyed the show, especially when he sees some subtle and not-so-subtle changes on his return, kind of like the Simpson’s episode with the time travel toaster.
Sometimes it takes a little time for a show to find an audience. “Cheers” is a perfect example. Even though ratings sucked, cancelling it would have been a bad decision.
I Like this idea of yours for a new show. “Battle of the Choirs” Would this be a indoor event with completions like pew jumping and back flips down the center aisle. The Blues Brother thing. Or would it be more like a rugby match.
This is an exact reason to blame the suits. They had Star Trek which was a license to print money, and they just discarded it. If a show is good, it should find an audience.
"Daisies" problem is that it's an expensive show to make. This is becoming a problem lately, with huge sums being pumped into pilots to make them look amazing, followed by the discovery that you can't repeat that look every week without making the show cost-prohibitive. If those shows do anything less than top-10 ratings, with the commensurate premium on ad time, they don't make sense to keep making.
Bring back “BJ and the Bear”!!!
I watched all of the episodes of Jericho so far - I loved it!!!
And unfortunately that actually does the show a disservice.
But Star Trek wasn’t a license to print money at the beginning. When it started it was an expensive show with crappy ratings, 40 years ago nobody knew Star Trek would find it’s audience 5 years after it got canceled. It’s nice to say that a show “should” find rating, but when you’re the guy writing 6 and 7 digit checks every week to keep a show on the air “should” doesn’t cut it, you need a show to have already found it’s audience. And it’s even more true today than it was before, the pie is cut thinner than ever, most of the networks (especially NBC) don’t have the big hit shows making enough money to keep a couple of experiments around. They need every episode of every show to be profitable, they no longer live in a world of letting Cosby make enough money to keep Cheers around and see if it catches.
I was gonna drop Jericho at about episode 4 or 5 cause I was tired of the "Super Jake" show. Glad I stuck with it though, it got good towards the end.
Yea I sent a few pounds of nuts in myself.
Yeah, that’s why I think it’s on the bubble. It’s clearly getting OK numbers for most shows (it’s fallen to better than Journeyman started), but it is a bit pricey. The good news on the show though is I think most of the costs are 1 shot, having built the expensive sets further seasons should be a little cheaper. Only time will tell. The whole year is up for grabs, nobody is getting the numbers they want with anything, the writers are on strike, the actors soon will be, the directors shortly after that. There’s the distinct possibility of the suits bailing on the whole year except for one or two top drawers shows on each network.
I didn’t think the show was any good really ...
Should be fought with automatic weapons.
Pushing Daisies was ranked as one of the top ten shows. I would be quite surprised to see it go. It will be back after the first of the year as far as I know.
How about the shows that have good ratings, then they move it around so many times, no one can find it anymore?
Ziggy says there's a 98% probability that the whiners will not get what they want.
I’m still waiting for ‘La Femme Nikita’ and ‘Farscape’ to return.
The hero starts spontaneously making trips to the recent San Francisco past, only to return to the present hours after he disappears. This, of course, wreaks havoc on his marriage and job. His trips to the past seem to have a purpose, and he rights wrongs and changes the present while in the past. He meets his old girlfriend (Moon Bloodgood - oo-la-la) who had been presumed dead when she disappeared several years ago. Turns out she had been a time traveler from the 1930s who got stuck in the 2000s for a period of time. Together they fix the future when in the past. When at his job as a newspaper reporter, the hero contacts a Dr. Langley who is a quantum physicist who tell him that tachyons would be required for time travel. It so happens that Dr. Langley calls our hero while our hero is in the past on an antique cell phone he keeps on his person for use in the past. Dr. Langley has many visitors claiming to be time travelers besiging him at his office, visitors who are quickly escorted from the premises.
My guess is that the good doctor has been conducting experiments with tachyons that have had unintended consequences for various people in the San Francisco metropolitan area.
It's actually pretty interesting.
That’s one you can blame on stupid suits, I call it “foxing” because Fox has perfected that method of killing a show for no apparent reason.
As soon as I figure out what you’re talking about, I’ll be devastated.
We watched it twice and it was the same thing all the time...he transports somewhere else leaving behind his wife and ends up somehwhere else. Fixes whatever needs to be fixed and then finds himself home again. Maybe there are fans out there but honestly...after watching it twice we both said it wouldn’t last. It’s too mundane.
I vowed never to trust ABC again after they so unceremoniously dumped “Daybreak” right in the middle, breaking their promises to the viewers who invested of their lives into watching that particular series.
In fact, they kept promising particular dates when the remainder of the series would be posted online. And in this particular instance, ABC BROKE those promises to their viewers not once but, as I recall, approximately EIGHT times.
Never again. I don’t even watch TV any more. Which means I won’t even tuning into Lost, which I followed through its first 3 seasons.
I think the trend of cancelling slow building character dramas has been set for some time. A few others come to mind;
Daybreak - Taye Diggs in a groundhog day crime drama.
Firefly - the space cowboy sci-fi that Fox nixed prematurely.
Traveler - hadn’t realized this one was cancelled. College kids tied up in a government conspiracy with a roommate that was actually a gov’t agent using them as assets.
The problem I see with a lot of these shows is that you need to watch a few to get the characters and bond with them — many seem to play for the second season instead of hitting hard early on. Mass audiences typically pop in an out of shows and miss some here and there. Appointment tv is increasingly rare and even dvrs haven’t reversed this trend.
I think Quantum Leap comparisons are unfair, QL was focused very much on the situations of the leaps, with each one standing on its own as a tidy episode. Journeyman tends to focus on the relationships of the main characters with the leaps creating conflict, not serving as the core premise.
Pushing Daisies probably suffers from the same - clever to the point of being cloying, but a bit flat. Really I’m not sure what they’re trying to do on a big scale because it moves so slowly.