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Vets develop diet for obese dogs
Channel 4 ^ | dec 20 2007 | DancesWithCats

Posted on 12/20/2007 7:48:56 AM PST by DancesWithCats

A diet for obese dogs has been developed by veterinary scientists working in the UK and France.

Researchers have found that a high protein, high fibre diet is more successful in weight loss programmes for dogs because it helps to create a feeling of fullness.

The study, published in the latest issue of the Journal of Veterinary Internal Medicine, was carried out by vets at the University of Liverpool's Small Animal Teaching Hospital, working with the Royal Canine Research Centre in France, and has led to the development of a new diet food for dogs.

Most owners who place their pets on diets say the dogs overcome the effects by scavenging, but the new diet, called Satiety Control, aims to combat that problem.

Dr Alex German, head of the weight management clinic at the Small Animal Hospital, said: "Obesity is common in dogs and can lead to a range of illnesses and diseases, even premature death.

"Although treatment for weight loss has been in existence for some time it has not been without its problems. Simply reducing a dog's food intake and increasing exercise can lead to begging and scavenging.

"The new formula is a breakthrough for diet-based weight loss plans for dogs; if satiety is better, then improved compliance is likely to lead to greater success. This work may also be relevant for people as well as dogs. Increasing both dietary fibre and protein may help people on a dietary weight loss plan to control their appetite."

During the study, vets tested three different diets: one high in protein with moderate fibre content, one high in fibre with moderate protein content and one high in both protein and fibre.

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: diet; dog; doggieping; fat; obese; pets
Probably would help to cut back on the number of doggie biscuits, people cookies, eggs in the morning, and steak fat at night.
1 posted on 12/20/2007 7:48:57 AM PST by DancesWithCats
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To: HairOfTheDog

Doggie Ping!


2 posted on 12/20/2007 7:50:09 AM PST by DancesWithCats
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To: DancesWithCats
Vets have a fat doggie diet? I ain’t taking my mutt to no vet dieting on doggies, fat or not. And I sure ain’t going to any vet’s office next to a Chinese restaurant.
3 posted on 12/20/2007 7:53:26 AM PST by dblshot
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To: DancesWithCats

My problem is two dogs with opposite feeding habits. One is a nibbler that eats a few bites every twenty minutes and the other is a gobbler that eats till it’s gone.

I need to leave foood for the nibbler but the gobbler eats it all when she waddles her fat butt to the kitchen.


4 posted on 12/20/2007 7:54:37 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: DancesWithCats; AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; apackof2; Joe 6-pack; sinkspur; ...
That's what our thieving beagle would look like if he were allowed to choose his portions.

Ping!


Other articles with keyword "DOGGIEPING" since 12/29/04

5 posted on 12/20/2007 7:54:48 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: DancesWithCats

“Vets develop diet for obese dogs”

To bad it can’t help Hitlery. She’s a pig.


6 posted on 12/20/2007 7:56:12 AM PST by exile ("Get off my phone, ya big dope"- The Great One)
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To: HairOfTheDog

www.drbeihl.com

You’ll find some very good, and healthy, home made dog foods at this website.

(She’s our vet)


7 posted on 12/20/2007 7:56:12 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: Badeye

It’s not the food. He’s given plenty of food. He will just NEVER turn down a meal that is either offered, or merely left unsecured. He’ll break in to the feed bin and eat himself sick and still beg for dinner.


8 posted on 12/20/2007 7:58:47 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: DancesWithCats

What dog owners should do is take their dogs on frequent walks. I walk my dog 3 times a day for a total of 5-7 miles daily. On weekend mornings, I take it out to the woods and let it run around loose for hours, chasing squirrels and such. It has no weight issue whatsoever and I feed it whatever it wants to eat.


9 posted on 12/20/2007 7:59:09 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 49 days away from outliving Nicolette Larson)
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To: HairOfTheDog

I wasn’t addressing the specifics in the article or the thread, just noting that website has some very good home made dog food receipes.

They came in handy during the Chinese dog poisoning stuff earlier this year.


10 posted on 12/20/2007 8:01:10 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: cripplecreek

My 2 are both overweight and no matter how many times I tell my mom DON’T give them leftovers, she gives them all the leftovers and has cut down on their doggie nibbles instead! I think she’s got that backwards.


11 posted on 12/20/2007 8:01:10 AM PST by DancesWithCats
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To: Badeye

Good for folks who have time to do that. I’m sure it’s better for them. We almost went that way, seriously considered making our own food when we thought it was food allergies making our other dog so itchy. We no longer think that’s what he’s allergic to. It’s something else.


12 posted on 12/20/2007 8:03:59 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

We deal with our ‘lucy’s’ allegies a couple of times each year. NOt much you can do.


13 posted on 12/20/2007 8:09:43 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: HairOfTheDog

I have 4 Dachshunds. You never know if they have eaten or not. They always act starved!


14 posted on 12/20/2007 8:11:33 AM PST by RightWingMama
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To: HairOfTheDog
I think there is a simple test that your vet can administer to identify foods to which your dog is allergic.

My in-laws have a yellow lab who had itchy skin and had gained alot of weight. They fed him people-food leftovers constantly. The vet’s report contained a lengthy list of likely food allergens, including beef. Once their dog stopped eating those foods, the skin problems went away almost immediately. The weight gain has been less tractable ...

15 posted on 12/20/2007 8:15:12 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: riverdawg

I’ll bet THAT costs! (is it a scratch test like they do for people?)


16 posted on 12/20/2007 8:28:35 AM PST by DancesWithCats
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To: riverdawg

The diagnostic to really determine allergies is just like they would do with people... shaving the dog and putting several likely test samples on his skin and leaving them there. It’s a hassle and very expensive. - like a thousand dollars expensive.

There’s lots of potential food allergens, but we’ve switched through foods that are supposed to be for all kinds of allergies and there was no change. I think it’s something else in our house.


17 posted on 12/20/2007 8:29:25 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; DancesWithCats

I don’t know how much the test costs, but I think it was a blood test rather than a skin test.


18 posted on 12/20/2007 8:48:49 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: RightWingMama

Mine does also, it is so difficult to enjoy my own dinner when he is sitting there like he is starved to death. Amazing how much that little fellow can eat and still want more.
Sleeping and eating, his life’s work. Now 15 years old and vet says let him eat it is his only enjoyment.
PeeWee now has stud tail, he also has dry eye and heart murmur.


19 posted on 12/20/2007 8:57:59 AM PST by mel
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To: cripplecreek

my 4 yo cavalier used to be a nibbler, until we brought home another cavalier last december, then he decided he needed to gobble his food as well as her’s, because he is the alphadog and she isn’t allowed to have anything. Now i have to feed him, and put him outside while she eats. and she has to look lively and eat her’s up or else i will pick it up and she needs to wait til the next day. if i left it there, mr. porkrind would come in and snarf it in a nanosecond. cavaliers are prone to heart problems and he was a bit overweight, so i have to make sure he doesn’t gorge himself.


20 posted on 12/20/2007 9:03:07 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: DancesWithCats

They can do a scratch test but I do not believe it tests for food allergies. There is some controversy over the scratch test versus the blood test. It’s been years since I researched this so memory is vague as to why there was a disagreement over it.

Alot of people who have allergic dogs recommend that you take your dog to a veterinary dermatologist as they are the “go to” guys for allergies.

Years ago we had our border collie tested. It was a simple blood test and it cost around $100. She was allergic to grass pollen, dust and mold. We started to give her allergy shots. They did the trick and the dog never had problems after that. I think we gave her the shots for about 3 years.

The allergy shots do not work for every dog but if the dog has more than a seasonal allergy that cannot be controlled with an antihistamine the allergy shots are worth a try. Alot of vets will just put a dog on steroids instead of getting to the bottom of the problem and steroids have alot of nasty side effects and are not really a good option long term.

For food the vets use an elimination diet. You can google it. I believe they start out with one simple food and you add different things until you get a reaction out of the dog. It is time consuming and you have to follow it to the letter but if you have a dog with a severe food allergy it is worth it to get to the bottom of the problem.


21 posted on 12/20/2007 9:18:42 AM PST by conservativegranny
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To: riverdawg

I still had a few links in my bookmarks about allergies in dogs. This one is a UK company that makes the allergy tests but has some good information about allergies.

They do have a test for food allergies now that doesn’t require the food elimination diet. While this is a UK site I would assume that similar testing is available in the US.

http://tinyurl.com/29zqsq

Food and inhaled allergies are common but so are flea allergies. Even if you put flea meds on your dog if a flea bites them and they are allergic to fleas it will cause them alot of misery. Mites are determined with a skin scraping I believe. I’ve heard of dogs having these mites. You have to look for them under a microscope to find them they are very small.

Dermapet makes products that you use for shampooing the dog that are quite effective in controlling some of the skin issues in allergic dogs particularly problems that involve yeast or fungus. The key ingredients are acetic & boric acid. I use the ear cleaner and after trying about 3 other products is the only one so far that has prevented yeast infections in my Cavalier’s ears. I’m not affiliated with the company but just have had a lot of success with their products as have other Cavalier owners who have used the ear cleaner as a preventative.

This link has more about the allergy testing and explains why there is controversy about it. However we had just the blood test done on our dog and it was very successful.

http://www.gcvs.com/Derm/allergy_test.htm

I am most familiar with allergy shots in humans. I have alot of allergies and have been getting the shots myself since childhood. They have worked well for me over the years and indeed have allowed me to enjoy life in a way I could not have without them. I can garden AND have a pet!

But my daughter tried them for her allergies and did not have positive results so they don’t always work for every one nor every dog. And you have to be patient. Sometimes it can take 6 months to a year to see change.

As for overweight dogs it seems to be an owner issue. It’s easy to control a dog’s weight as the owner is in control of the dog’s food. Feed less, exercise more. If dog seems hungry supplement their kibble with cooked green beans, give carrot sticks as snacks etc. Dogs beg and are experts at looking hungry and sad. For some people that is hard to not give in to. You must be strong!


22 posted on 12/20/2007 9:34:04 AM PST by conservativegranny
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To: mel

Our weiner dogs are very close in age. The oldest one is 3 years old. He is the biggest and very lazy. The vet says to walk him every day. We get half a block away from the house and he lays down on the sidewalk and that is the end of the walk. LOL


23 posted on 12/20/2007 10:08:06 AM PST by RightWingMama
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To: DancesWithCats

I adopted my daughter’s fat Boston Terrier, Lucy, to save her from my grandson’s teasing. I solved her weight problem. I feed her less.

She’s looking svelte now, and really sticks by my side, hoping to get a doggie treat. Makes training very easy. There’s nothing like hunger to get a dog’s attention, LOL!


24 posted on 12/20/2007 12:09:26 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: DancesWithCats
My five year old Rottie was a downright porker for a while -- weighing in at a massive 90 lbs. That was right before the Melamine in the dog food scare.

At the advice of several freepers, I switched to a dog food brand called Innova Evo. No wheat products, high protein and high fiber. Oh, and the best part ever -- No Melamine or lead! Poo on YOU, China!

She's now back to a perfect weight (perfect for her since she's very petite) of 75 lbs, and her fur is amazing. Personally, I think she was just reacting to the ridiculous amount of refined carbs in her Science Diet.

Oh, and we started walking late at night.

25 posted on 12/20/2007 1:43:18 PM PST by RepoGirl ("Tom, I'm getting dead from you, but I'm not getting Undead..." -- Frasier Crane)
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To: HairOfTheDog; devolve

Oh, how sad the picture of that dog is!! How could they allow that?

Laughing about your ‘thieving beagle’!


26 posted on 12/20/2007 3:44:52 PM PST by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: potlatch

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My hunting hound would eat some high protein Hunter Mix andleftoves but would also go after rabbits, etc. every few days and stayed lean and powerful and happy

Tex was no fatty and he was King of the Territory as the larger dogs that ganged up on him when hewas a growing pup found out when he matured

All the so-called “guard dog” and all the larger/largest breeds quickly became notched ear buddies of Tex


27 posted on 12/20/2007 4:53:56 PM PST by devolve (---- - Hey Boone! - My bonus check is late again! -)
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To: devolve
Lol, your ‘hound’ Tex would probably have eaten Piper!!

Outdoor dogs are seldom fat, it’s the ones kept inside and overfed on people food I think.

28 posted on 12/20/2007 4:57:37 PM PST by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: cripplecreek

I’ve had three dogs and have never once set out their food at a specified time, it’s there and they’ve eaten when they’re hungry. The dogs I’ve seen that are the biggest are the ones that get fed at a specific time and then they attack it like, well, animals. Hahahaha. I go with the, they know when they’re hungry theory.


29 posted on 12/20/2007 4:58:59 PM PST by ShadowDancer ("To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.")
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To: potlatch

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Tex was good with smaller dogs

He also protected the kid’s pet rabbit “Thumper” in his raised cage from neighborhood dogs


30 posted on 12/20/2007 5:28:10 PM PST by devolve (---- - Hey Boone! - My bonus check is late again! -)
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To: devolve

That’s interesting, isn’t it. If he would kill wild animals you’d think he’d go after very small ones.

Maybe Thumper never got loose, lol.

They say not to let Yorkies get around hamsters, gerbels, etc!!


31 posted on 12/20/2007 5:35:18 PM PST by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: potlatch

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The kids would put Thumper out on the grass lawn once in a while with a tiny orpthaned wild baby rabbit that we found that we put in Thumper’s cage until the wild rabbit got big enough to set loose
Tex never messed with them

But Tex would shred those big hostile dogs from miles around if they bothered him or came near our property

They used to run loose in packs but Tex spoiled their fun


32 posted on 12/20/2007 6:11:41 PM PST by devolve (---- - Hey Boone! - My bonus check is late again! -)
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To: devolve

Sounds like Tex knew who his real opponents were and took care of them!! Nice he wouldn’t hurt the rabbit.


33 posted on 12/20/2007 6:13:53 PM PST by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: DancesWithCats

A diet for obese dogs has been developed by veterinary scientists......

Teaching owners to say no?


34 posted on 12/21/2007 7:36:24 AM PST by aspen64 (Dear Santa, Please let me explain..........)
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To: RightWingMama
I have 4 Dachshunds. You never know if they have eaten or not. They always act starved!

FOUR of them!? How fun!! Silly dogs, they are. Adorable! I had one once, name was Shelly. Loved her to bits but boy was she the little goofball. And yes, a real starving Armenian all the time. LOL I miss the goofy little thing.

35 posted on 12/21/2007 12:17:42 PM PST by DancesWithCats
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To: HairOfTheDog

Yowch. Vet bills can just do you in at times. AND as you say, it’s a hassle as I’m sure the dog was not too cooperative to having test samples on his skin. LOL


36 posted on 12/21/2007 12:19:40 PM PST by DancesWithCats
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To: conservativegranny

We had a cat once that had allergies and yes, it was unbelievably expensive. But in the end, the decision was to put him on steroid injections regularly and it worked like a charm. No more biting at his fur and ripping it out in patches. Was a much prettier cat after that. LOL


37 posted on 12/21/2007 12:23:35 PM PST by DancesWithCats
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To: HairOfTheDog

Doggie Prader-Willis!


38 posted on 12/21/2007 12:26:32 PM PST by najida (As God is my witness! The cockatoos ate my breakfast..)
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