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UFO 'secrets' could land UK hacker in Gitmo (from December 2006)
m-net ^ | 14 December 2006 | Ken Lewis

Posted on 12/22/2007 10:40:11 PM PST by chronic cough 420

A UK hacker who broke into dozens of US military computers to find secret evidence of alien life and technology faces up to 70 years in a US prison.

The 40-year-old unemployed systems administrator faces charges of attacking 97 US military and NASA computers between 2001 and 2002. If found guilty, he could face up to 70 years in prison and may even be sent to Guantanamo Bay as a terrorist suspect.

Gary McKinnon will lodge what is likely to be his final appeal against extradition on February 13 next year at London's Court of Appeal. He lost his first appeal against extradition in a High Court hearing last July, but was given leave to take his case to a higher court. If that fails to overturn the extradition order signed by UK Home Secretary John Reid in July, McKinnon's only remaining option to avoid a US trial will be to appeal to the House of Lords. McKinnon is not optimistic of his chances following the Lords' refusal to intervene in the extradition of the NatWest Three, who were extradited to the US in July as part of a £11.5m fraud investigation connected with the collapsed energy giant Enron.

McKinnon has admitted accessing computer systems in the US, including those cited in a US indictment against him. He wanted to find evidence of UFOs, antigravity technology and government suppression of ‘Free Energy', all of which he claims to have gained evidence of through his activities.

In an interview with the BBC, McKinnon said he got into the networks quite easily, simply by using a Perl script that searched for blank passwords. Embarrassingly for the US military, that means computers in the top-secret networks could be hacked using active default passwords.

Unsurprisingly, McKinnon wants to be tried in the UK because he says the crimes were committed on UK soil. He also says he did not damage the systems he trespassed on.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: callthekitties; chronic; cybersecurity; hacker; troll; ufo; usmilitary; zot
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1 posted on 12/22/2007 10:40:13 PM PST by chronic cough 420
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To: chronic cough 420

good


2 posted on 12/22/2007 10:51:50 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: chronic cough 420
The 40-year-old unemployed systems administrator faces charges of attacking 97 US military and NASA computers

Idle hands are the devils playground.

He wanted to find evidence of UFOs, antigravity technology and government suppression of ‘Free Energy'

It also seems that an idle mind has time to dwell on idiotic conspiracy theories.

3 posted on 12/22/2007 10:55:49 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: chronic cough 420
Of course, no where in the article do they mention how Gitmo might be involved.
4 posted on 12/22/2007 10:58:06 PM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: milford421; Calpernia; Velveeta; Founding Father; DAVEY CROCKETT

Ping


5 posted on 12/23/2007 6:22:51 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ("Christmas is not a date. It is a state of mind" M.E. Chase American writer "Merry Christmas to all")
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To: ex-Texan

ping


6 posted on 12/23/2007 6:44:28 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

>>>The 40-year-old unemployed systems administrator faces charges of attacking 97 US military and NASA computers between 2001 and 2002.

When Columbia exploded, there was mention of a hacker. Related?


7 posted on 12/23/2007 6:45:33 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: js1138

bump


8 posted on 12/23/2007 6:46:27 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Pontiac

Unemployeed doesn’t me he wasn’t contracted. Just saying, that could be a play on words.


9 posted on 12/23/2007 6:47:37 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Aeronaut

Did not know if you were interested in NASA related material for your aero ping list.


10 posted on 12/23/2007 6:48:31 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: chronic cough 420

Why are troll and call the kitties being added to the keywords?

Doesn’t anyone find it interesting that this guy, Gary McKinnon, was hacking into NASA the same time Columbia blew?


11 posted on 12/23/2007 6:50:09 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: kingu
"he could face up to 70 years in prison and may even be sent to Guantanamo Bay as a terrorist suspect."
12 posted on 12/23/2007 6:51:39 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: davidosborne; airborne; Antoninus; GulfBreeze; processing please hold; RasterMaster; ...

pinging this for the NASA being hacked reference.


13 posted on 12/23/2007 6:54:40 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Pontiac

You sound grossly ignorant of what he FOUND.


14 posted on 12/23/2007 6:55:31 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

My FRiend, if this person was invading America’s classified data then no one should know what he found.


15 posted on 12/23/2007 8:38:29 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin; All

There’s more than trainloads of evidence

that

a LOT of the data related to such things

is more or less blatantly illegal in terms of the motives and uses it has been long put to.

not to mention the wholesale illegal activities it’s been hiding on the part of the elites running that show.

Do you actually personally believe

that it SHOULD be legal to hide deliberate complicity

in hapless human victims being picked up . . .

having an eye, genitals, rectums, a jaw gored out with inhuman precision and then drained of blood

all without anesthesia and while the person is alive as long as possible?

Are you personally of the opinion that thousands of people SHOULD have been killed just because they casually expressed some disapproval about what they’d seen or participated in?

Are you personally of the opinion that deliberately withhoding super cheap, clean energy from the world’s populace

strictly to enable the elites to get unfathomably rich to advance their GLOBAL TYRANNICAL GOV SCHEMES

AND TO WITH CENTRALIZED POWER AND ENERGY CONTINUE TO TIGHTEN THE SCREWS ON CONTROLLING THE SERFS . . . are you of the personal opinion that doing such is all fine and hunkyk dory?

If so, I’m not sure what you’re doing on FREE Republic.


16 posted on 12/23/2007 8:47:10 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: BenLurkin

I’ve worked in TOP-SECRET CRYPTO jobs.

I mostly support SOME secrecy and do not trade with Toshiba because they sold sub propeller secrets to the soviets.

But I have read enough and seen enough to also know that tons of what is classified is done so to cover the rears of some very ugly evil people.


17 posted on 12/23/2007 8:48:46 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Bigh4u2
[He] may even be sent to Guantanamo Bay as a terrorist suspect.

He's got about as much chance of being sent to Gitmo as he does of being inducted into the Astronaut Hall of Fame. A coupla years in Levenworth, he gets his teeth fixed, bulks up and learns the difference between a forward lateral and a suicide squeeze. All-in-all, it'd do him a world of good. He might even learn to pronounce his haitches.

18 posted on 12/23/2007 8:48:52 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Being an idealist excuses nothing. Hitler was an idealist.)
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To: BenLurkin

BTW, you evidently are also unware . . .

that one of the very telling things he found was a

list of officers

IN THE OFF EARTH/OTHER PLANET ASTRONAUT CORPS—as in the secret corps—NOT the space station corps.

And to the 4th astronaut from that corps that died with Grissom who’s family was reportedly paid off to keep silent.

Lends some credit to those who insist that we have bases on the moon, Mars . . .

time will tell.


19 posted on 12/23/2007 8:51:20 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: BenLurkin

I think this extradition business is mostly affirming how fiercely the elites are determined to hold onto their globalist monopoly on exhotic technologies

and especially

HOLD ONTO

!!!!CONTROL!!! OF THE SERFS.

Otherwise, nothing serious was compromised in terms of the national security of the US of A.

The elites have traitorously sold us down the river a trillion times what the hacker did. He was mostly a curious careless fellow.


20 posted on 12/23/2007 8:53:08 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: BenLurkin

Which reminds me . . . do you think it is honorable

for the elites to insist that ANY astronauts still fly around in the model-T hazardous space shuttle when we’ve had greatly better available for decades?

Was it honorable for the teacher to die unnecessarily in the Challenger disaster?


21 posted on 12/23/2007 8:56:53 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Calpernia

A hacker does not surprise me, as I have always thought we did not have the truth of the crash.

I am sure that all night, the night before it crashed, as they waited for it to come in, the radio news talked of extra planes in the sky to protect it, from terrorist threats.

Something that I had not heard on prior flights or since.


22 posted on 12/23/2007 9:25:23 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ("Christmas is not a date. It is a state of mind" M.E. Chase American writer "Merry Christmas to all")
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To: kingu

Good point. bmflr.

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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts


23 posted on 12/23/2007 10:04:36 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“He’s got about as much chance of being sent to Gitmo as he does of being inducted into the Astronaut Hall of Fame.”

I agree..

I was just responding to the poster that didn’t see the connection,in the article, between this guy and Gitmo.

Journalistic ‘embellishment’..

:0)


24 posted on 12/23/2007 10:09:47 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Quix
If we truly have the technology to retire the shuttle then I agree — the shuttle should definitely be retired.

My only reservation is that come the next world war we will need an edge. And I’d like our enemies to be very much surprised when we spring it on them.

I agree that sacrificing these astronauts is not very “honorable”. Sadly, it appears that the intelligence business cannot often afford honor.

25 posted on 12/23/2007 10:14:13 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

IF

I thought the USA were ruled by honorable patriotic folks . . . I’d be more supportive of your perspective.

I’ve seen too much of their own writings since 1965 to believe that any longer.

The Globalists have been at work a long time to achieve their Biblically predicted global government. They are on the brink.

Shrillery is licking her chops to be one of the chief proponents to more overtly turn our nation over to them lock stock and Fosterizing.

I once asked a recently retired Navy officer—Captain or some such . . . full bird anyway, I think . . . how many globalists percentage wise, he thought populated our military officer corps. He guessed about 30% or more.

Strategically placed, as they would most likely mostly be . . . they could do a LOT of damage to our sovereignty.

The powers that largely be under the table at international levels are pure evil, imho.

I don’t trust them any further than a gnat could throw SHRILLERY.

They have repeatedly sold us down the river the last many decades.

They have repeatedly violated and eroded the Constitution and sometimes bragged about it.

Sr is supposedly quoted as saying that if the populace knew what they’d done, they’d have all been hung from the nearest light poles.

Rockefeller—Nelson, I think—bragged about his globalist achievements for the oligarchy.

The exotic technologies are not in the service of patriots but instead, serving the globalist oligarchy lock, stock and barrel.

And THEY are convinced that satan will win at Armageddon.

The Bible was right about the GREAT DECEPTION of the end times . . . so great as, were it possible, it would fool even the elect of God. Thankfully, He will prevent that—FOR THOSE WHO are walking close to Him.

I’m skeptical that the others will wake up remotely soon enough to save even their own hide.

Part of me would have preferred to have been born at an earlier time.

On the other hand, to see history draw to a close and The King of Kings begin His rule of true Peace . . . The Bible says many greats of the Old testament wanted to be born for such a time as this . . . So, I guess I shouldn’t complain.

I just hate seeing this great land of ours controlled so effectively to such horrid transitionary ends by such evil folks even though Scripture makes plain such things must be.

Thankfully, I believe George Washington’s vision . . . we will not be utterly destroyed. God will resurrect us in His time.


26 posted on 12/23/2007 10:46:13 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

If you’re just playing around, doing all the tin-foil stuff just for fun, please stop. Every sentence doesn’t have to be indented, and too much sarcasm can get overbearing.

If you’re serious, ignore anything I’ve said and carry on. No use for me to argue about these claims.


27 posted on 12/23/2007 12:48:44 PM PST by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery.") (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: onja

Oh, my!

Thank you to the uttermost for your great gobs of gracious wisdom.

I’m sure that the posting nannys will be forever indebted to you as well.

Thank you for caring so much to drop such golden dew drops my serfdom’s way. Such are so rare in these parts.

Alas . . . there’s so much addiction to white space in these parts. Proper texting is just never respected sufficiently at the local chapel to the Lady of Black Lines. I’m afraid that the whole chapel is getting into a disgraceful state of disrepair.

Perhaps you could send missionaries to correct things.

As for the tin-foil stuff . . . what do you expect us to do if we have a few shares of Alcoa . . . or is it Reynolds . . . things can get soooooo confusing in the tin-foil dimension . . . or is it the tin-foil matrix. Goodness . . . modern life is soooo complex.

Maybe some missionaries to sort out complexities would be nice, too.

But they need to be quite durable sorts. We ran the last ones out of town on a rail with new attire of tar and feathers. A grand time was had by all, I dare say. . . . except for the missionaries. Evidently they’d graduated from the Sour Puss School of Theology. Not good sports at all.

Some old goat wisenheimer asserted that we should pass out free scroll buttons. But he was quickly voted down. The crowd seemed to like the fun just the way it was.

And that was just the way it was in Lake Scroll-be-gone, this week.


28 posted on 12/23/2007 1:08:06 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: onja

BTW,

The newly retired Navy Officer was a well respected FREEPER.

But hey, who on FR believes well respected conservative newly retired Navy Officers? The trolls sure don’t.

But then the trolls are immune to learning anything.

Probably just as well. I don’t know how many spaces are reserved in Heaven for them, anyway.


29 posted on 12/23/2007 1:11:14 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Pontiac

UFO topics might be as idiotic of a conspiracy theory as US Presidents referencing the “new world order” in their addresses to Congress or legislators introducing bills favoring globalization over the past 60 years. I tend to think it’s nutty, but it’s the damnedest thing, those who really do have prominent power really do believe in them and act accordingly over decades.


30 posted on 12/23/2007 1:33:55 PM PST by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: Cvengr

What’s mystifying to me . . .

is why so many ?FREEPERS?

are so absolutely uninformed when so much evidence is PILED all over the place in plain sight!

??????????????????????

Willful blindness?


31 posted on 12/23/2007 1:36:09 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

OK, what did he find? What did he find out about UFO’s? What did he find out about anti-gravity devices?


32 posted on 12/23/2007 2:02:42 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: Continental Soldier

I’ve already given you one bit of an answer to that.

You are welcome to search the rest out.

IF you really desire to know the facts.


33 posted on 12/23/2007 3:08:23 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
You sound grossly ignorant of what he FOUND.

If you have personal knowledge of what he FOUND, I have a phalanx of G-men just waiting to hear all about it.

34 posted on 12/23/2007 4:20:34 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Pontiac

Oh woop woop.

His basic findings are in several places on the web and not outrageously new or unique—just confirming of lots of other sources.


35 posted on 12/23/2007 5:08:10 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Pontiac; All

A thread about the upcoming release of BRITISH classified UFO files . . .

which follows the French. I forget where Brazil is in the process—I don’t recall if Brazil has already released or is going to release theirs, too.

HTTP://WWW.FREEREPUBLIC.COM/FOCUS/F-CHAT/1943646/POSTS?PAGE=4#4


36 posted on 12/23/2007 6:00:44 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Pontiac; All
ANYONE IN NW NEW MEXICO . . .

LOOK AT THE FULL MOON . . .

AT ABOUT THE 2:00 position relative to the moon . . .

is a brightly lit object of some sort . . .

Couldn't’t see it without binoculars but a friend at work could . . .

Through the binoculars . . . still hard to tell what it is . . . but brightly lit . . . slightly yellowish light . . . seems to have an upper part and a smaller lower part NOT a balloon

Would love for someone with a telescope to look at it and let us know what it is.

37 posted on 12/23/2007 6:20:36 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
I saw that this evening as Mrs. Lurkin and I were leaving a restaurant.

I think it is the planet Mercury or a major star. When we were visiting Griffith Observatory the other day we overheard some people talking about an upcoming planetary conjunction. This is probably it.

38 posted on 12/23/2007 6:51:34 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Conceivable, I suppose . . .

But through the binoculars it looks like a structure with sharp angles.

And, it’s highly likely to be within the atmosphere.


39 posted on 12/23/2007 6:53:01 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: BenLurkin

Where are you geographically?


40 posted on 12/23/2007 6:53:25 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: chronic cough 420

Oh BOOHOO...


41 posted on 12/23/2007 6:54:34 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Quix

Southern California


42 posted on 12/23/2007 6:55:05 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Quix

OK. Let me get my binoculars and go into the back yard. Hang on.


43 posted on 12/23/2007 6:55:55 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

I’m going out for another look. Have to rest against the carport to steady the binoculars.


44 posted on 12/23/2007 6:57:25 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: BenLurkin

I don’t know . . . this time . . . I didn’t see the sharp angled stuff nor the seeming lower part. And, it seems to have moved toward between the 1:00 and 2:00 positioins relative to the moon.

Before, it seemed much closer relative to the moon. Now, I’m not sure.

Surprised if you see the same thing from Southern CA if my first impression of it being lower in the atmosphere was remotely correct.

What do I know.


45 posted on 12/23/2007 7:02:51 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: BenLurkin

Some claim we had better than the shuttle in the 60’s!


46 posted on 12/23/2007 7:05:12 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: BenLurkin

This ATS thread is convinced it’s Mars:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread322703/pg1

But am a bit confused as to the relative position thing.


47 posted on 12/23/2007 7:11:49 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: BenLurkin

LOL.

They see it in Britain and Buenos Aries

Must be Mars! LOL.


48 posted on 12/23/2007 7:13:39 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
When we first saw it around 6:30 with the “naked eye” (I wear glasses) it was at about the four o’clock position. At around 7:00 pm it had moved to the 2:00 o’clock position and had moved farther away from the moon.

Examining it for about fifteen or twenty minutes through 20 power binoculars it appears to be round and bright white. The full moon usually blots out all but the brightest stars here in the high desert so I’m guessing it is in fact one of the planets -— my guess is Mercury.

Griffith Observatory is open until 10:00 pm PST. Maybe someone there will answer the phone if you call them.

49 posted on 12/23/2007 7:25:48 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Quix

The Griffith Observatory Sky Report
Anthony Cook
Astronomical Observer

http://www.griffithobs.org/skyreport.html

This is the Griffith Observatory Sky Report for the week ending Wednesday, December 26. Here is what’s happening in the skies of Southern California:

Mars, in Gemini the Twins, is now in prime position to observe from the early evening, when it is low in the east northeast, until dawn, when it has moved to the west-northwest. The planet is directly opposite the sun (at opposition) on Christmas eve, and is highest, only seven degrees from the zenith (the overhead point) at midnight. The brilliant rust-orange planet now slightly outshines the brightest star, Sirius, in Canis Major the Big Dog.

The winter solstice­–the start of winter in the northern hemisphere­–occurs at 10:08 p.m., P.S.T. on Friday night, December 21. The winter solstice is also the shortest day, only nine hours and 53 minutes long in Los Angeles.

Saturn in Leo the Lion, rises in the east at about 10 p.m. It is best seen when it transits 66 degrees high in the south at 4:30 a.m. It’s rings, visible in a telescope capable of at least 50 power, are now inclined seven degrees from edge-on.

The brightest planet, Venus, rises at about 3:45 a.m. and appears about 25 degrees high in the southeast during the dawn.

The moon starts this week in a waxing gibbous phase and reaches full on Sunday evening, then shows a waning gibbous phase for the remainder of the week. Note that full moon happens when the moon is in opposition, as is Mars, and the two will rise together in the east-northeast (just as the sun sets in the west-southwest) on Sunday evening. The pair will be separated by less than the moon’s diameter (half a degree) until about 6:30 p.m.

The moon will pass in front of M44 (the “Beehive Cluster”) in Cancer the Crab, starting at about 4:30 a.m. on the morning of Wednesday, December 26. Dawn will put and end to our view of this occultation­–which requires a telescope to observe–at shortly after 6 a.m.

The International Space Station will make an appearance over Los Angeles on Thursday night, December 20. The Space Station, which appears as a brilliant moving star, moves above the northwest horizon at 6:22 p.m., and reaches an apparent altitude of 41 degrees above the northwest horizon at 6:24 p.m. just as it vanishes into the Earth’s shadow. On the next night, Friday the 21st, the ISS will make two evening appearances, first passing 20 degrees above the northeast horizon at 5:10 p.m., then 22 degrees above the southwest horizon one orbit later, at 6:45 p.m. The expected Space Shuttle launch, mentioned last week, has been indefinitely delayed while engineers strive to solve a critical sensor problem.

Free public sky viewing, day and night, is available through Griffith Observatory’s telescopes six nights a week, Tuesday through Sunday. The next public star party, held by members of the Los Angeles Astronomical Society and the Los Angeles Sidewalk Astronomers, will be held on the Observatory’s front lawn on Saturday, December 22. For Observatory information, please visit our website, www.griffithobservatory.org, or call (213) 473-0800.

The Sky Report is updated every Wednesday, and can be heard as a recorded phone message by calling (213) 473-0880. From Griffith Observatory, I’m Tony Cook, and I can be reached at tcook@earthlink.net


50 posted on 12/23/2007 7:28:33 PM PST by BenLurkin
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