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Obama: Is America Ready For a Black Government?
12/23/07 | me

Posted on 12/23/2007 11:14:01 AM PST by llevrok

The tought crossed my mind today while watching the election centered news - If Obama wins, how will America respond to a Black govenment?

What do I mean by that?

When you look forward to a Hillary or Rudy or whom ever led government, you see a traditional colection of mostly white men, a scattering of white women and a black here and there. The Cabinet and inner circle - all the same

One has to think with Obama's election, the inner circle will be largely black.It is natural. They are his associates. Will the Black community expect a large number of appointment? Any way you cut it - Visually, "things" will look different from the previous 200+ years of US government.

So back to my question.will America respond to a Black govenment? Will it make a difference? Will there be back lash? If we discuss it now, it will become a racial issue. If it comes up should Obama be elected, it will become racial.

It's an interesting thought at this cross roads for our country.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: paranoia; race; racecard; racerelations; races; racial; racism; racist; racists; whiteonblack; whitevsblack; yeahitworksinafrica

1 posted on 12/23/2007 11:14:02 AM PST by llevrok
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To: llevrok
Cool!

Jesse Jackson as Secretary of State.

Al Sharpton Sectratary of the Treasury.

2 posted on 12/23/2007 11:15:57 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: llevrok

I don’t care if they are pick or purple. Let’s focus on the idea being presented.


3 posted on 12/23/2007 11:21:33 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: llevrok

It wouldn’t be the black part that bother me it would be the Muslim part..I guess there wpould be lots of Christians beheaded since I for one will not denounce God for the pervert Mohammad.. Maybe I should worry about the black part since the whole country will go like Washington with mayors on drugs and cities rioting all the time..


4 posted on 12/23/2007 11:22:01 AM PST by PLD
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To: llevrok
I personally don't care if a candidate is green, yellow, red, black, white, brown, purple, male, female, transgendered, or no gender.

Are they honorable? Are they patriotic? Are they a conservative? Do they hold true to their core values?

I would vote for a mohawk wearing, green-haired, nose ring sporting transgendered black person in a tutu if they have a solid history of supporting a pro-life, pro-gun, pro-military, small government, pro-American sovereignty (in all it's aspects), TRUE equality for all agenda.

In short, it is the content of one's character, not the color of their skin, that makes the difference.

6 posted on 12/23/2007 11:25:34 AM PST by TheWriterTX (Proud Retrosexual Wife of 14 Years)
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To: raybbr
Nope they both would be fightin’ over the Treasury. Ebonics anybody?
7 posted on 12/23/2007 11:27:23 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

White guy in Obama’s cabinet? Arnold Swartzenegger!


8 posted on 12/23/2007 11:30:21 AM PST by princess leah
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To: llevrok

Yeah; we need more Alcee Hastings, William Jeffersons, Cynthia McKineys, Sheila Jackson Lees, etc. to clean up Washington.......


9 posted on 12/23/2007 11:33:52 AM PST by traditional1 (Thompson/Hunter '08 OR Hunter/Thompson '08)
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To: llevrok
Obama is a politician. If he gets elected he will do what he has to do to get reelected.

Jackson and Sharpton have not endorsed Obama and won’t until they are sure he will win the nomination.

10 posted on 12/23/2007 11:38:17 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: llevrok

What you’re really saying is that between H. KKKlintler with 51% negatives and Obama, the rats really have their work cut out for them one way or other.


11 posted on 12/23/2007 11:47:20 AM PST by damondonion
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To: raybbr

P’shaw. William Jefferson will be Secretary of the Treasury and his first task will be to buy a bigger fridge.


12 posted on 12/23/2007 11:49:44 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: llevrok

Aside from this thread being racist, pure and simple, they will have to hire experience and that means by experience not race.


13 posted on 12/23/2007 11:50:26 AM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: llevrok
America is already governed by a blaggard government thanks to the 2006 election cycle.

For all the Dimbulbs and folks from Rio Linda:

Blaggard: A person of dubious morals, sometimes with villainous intent and suspicious plots.

More often than not in cahoots with other shady characters.

Ding Harry and Her majesty Pelosi!

14 posted on 12/23/2007 11:52:09 AM PST by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: PLD

What’s more, the general population ignores the appointments of black Republicans to the Bush administration while bragging about the Clintons’ administration “that looked like America”.

Will there be a racial “nod” in cabinet and judicial appointments? Who knows. If there is, we’ll all be hit over the head about it and the obstruction of Hispanic nominees by Ted Kennedy will be long forgotten. Expect the press to be the house organ of the DNC and spread vicious rumors and slurs that the GOP is opposing candidates/nominees just because of their skin color.


15 posted on 12/23/2007 11:53:30 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: weegee
P’shaw. William Jefferson will be Secretary of the Treasury and his first task will be to buy a bigger fridge.

LOL. How about Cynthia McKinney for Health and Human Services?

16 posted on 12/23/2007 11:57:36 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: llevrok

If Obama knows what’s good for him, he will wear his faux blackness and faux Chirstianity as a figleaf until the election and then do what his chief sponsor, George Soros, tells him to do afterward.


17 posted on 12/23/2007 11:58:23 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: llevrok

Like Ray Nagins magnificent Chocolate City? Awesome! The large Robert Byrd wing of the democrat party will destroy Obama. They are going with Edwards.


18 posted on 12/23/2007 11:59:22 AM PST by Ron in Acreage (Thinking of new tagline)
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To: llevrok
It’s not the color of Obama’s skin, its the color of his politics. If Mr. Steele won the nomination on the Republican side, I could care less who he put in his cabinet, because I trust his judgment, not his skin color.
19 posted on 12/23/2007 12:01:16 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: RightWhale

Regardless if opposition to a minority candidate is racial in origin, the press will say it is so.

Here in Houston we were told how Mayor Lee P. Brown would represent “ALL of Houston” unlike the white guy. And how it was “time” for Houston to have a black mayor.

When Mayor Lee P. Brown faced a Cuban born Republican challenger in the next race, we did not hear how it was “time” for Houstont to finally have a Hispanic mayor. No, we heard how Sanchez was “anti-Hispanic” and that he wasn’t “genuine” because he came from Cuba and not Mexico.

Our mayor’s office is a non-partisan position. Which means that 2 (or more) Democrats can run against each other in the general election. But whenever a Republican enters the race (and has a good chance at winning) suddenly we are told that it has become a “partisan” race. Terry McAwful and the other national Rats came to Houston to fight for a marginal victory for Lee P. Brown (ex-Clinton White House drug czar) in the runoff election with Sanchez.

Race does not matter but the press and DNC will hit us over the head with it all the same.


20 posted on 12/23/2007 12:02:07 PM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: weegee

They do because that is the only time we even look at them. It’s a matter of concern over the soundness of their reasoning powers. Otherwise they would be ignored completely.


21 posted on 12/23/2007 12:05:29 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: raybbr

Cynthia McKinney will be the Minister of Propaganda, er Press Secretary.


22 posted on 12/23/2007 12:06:37 PM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: usainfantry

Yep, New Orleans and Zimbabwe. With Obama, as with all too many black people, color comes first. I was very distressed today to hear Denzel Washington, whom I have always admired, say that he really liked Obama’s “new ideas.” What “new ideas”? Income redistribution and softness on crime are as old as the hills.


23 posted on 12/23/2007 12:09:48 PM PST by lapster
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To: raybbr

Naaa, he’ll have William Jefferson as the Secretary of Treasury.


24 posted on 12/23/2007 12:10:20 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: llevrok

I like Condi Rice. Why do you ask? You know it isn’t about the color of their skin....


25 posted on 12/23/2007 12:12:37 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: RightWhale
Are you saying that the GOP ignores the black population or targets them unjustly with laws?

Democrats have no such lock on the Asian vote (which encompasses as many different cultures as the “Hispanic” vote) but there have been no set asides or preferential treatment.

There ARE black conservatives out there. And I am not talking about wealthy black citizens, I’m talking about church going people. The Democrats get miffed when they do not vote for the leading lib (either voting Republican or staying home), proclaiming that they vote against their own financial interest and vote against civil rights for homosexuals because of religious superstition.

The coalition of special interest groups courted by the DNC do not share a common ideology, goals, or principles. There is intimidation and discrimination used to pressure people to vote for The Party or else be considered a race traitor, politically incorrect, etc.

26 posted on 12/23/2007 12:16:00 PM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: weegee

No. I don’t even try to read minds anymore.


27 posted on 12/23/2007 12:20:27 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: llevrok

George Clinton: National Endowment of the Arts director.


29 posted on 12/23/2007 12:22:02 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Congratulations Brett Favre! All-time NFL leader in career passing yards)
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To: llevrok
We didn't get an Irish Catholic cabinet when Kennedy was elected.

Most of us would say that we didn't get an evangelical cabinet when Bush was elected, though some Democrats will disagree.

So why would we get an African-American cabinet if Obama is elected?

Probably some Clark Clifford or Harold Ickes type would help Obama pick out his cabinet.

Obama is pretty well in touch with his inner White guy, isn't he?

There probably will be some "backlash" against the administration. There always is, sooner or later. But will it really affect all African-Americans?

My first response was to say no.

If Barack turns out to be a ditherer you may see a bit fewer stereotypes of Blacks in the media -- fewer feisty black women judges, etc -- but that's about it.

But on reflection I don't know. Politics can be pretty brutal, and there's always a lunatic fringe out there.

30 posted on 12/23/2007 12:36:26 PM PST by x
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To: llevrok
Black government ... hmmmm maybe but doubtfully

Inexperienced airheaded STINKIN liberal pandering black man just because he is black ... what do you think? I know I know I'm a racist for saying it ... excuse me while I PUKE

31 posted on 12/23/2007 12:41:46 PM PST by clamper1797 (Fred Thompson - Duncan Hunter for POTUS and Vice Potus in either order)
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To: damondonion

A long time Black friend of mine is hoping that Obama wins. His business has seen about a 10% reduction in gross sales this past quarter and he’s hoping for substantial reparations.

He said that $50,000 apiece would mean a taxfree $350,000 for his family alone. Where can he get a better deal than that for his vote? Three years income just for voting the way his Momma would.


32 posted on 12/23/2007 12:42:01 PM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: llevrok

What a racist remark....it would be a BLACK President....not a BLACK GOVERNMENT.


33 posted on 12/23/2007 12:49:41 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: B4Ranch
Realistically, anybody who isn't happy with the deal they got being dragged over here in chains ought to have their choice of the things which would have happened to them if they'd stayed, i.e. death from malaria, killed by snakes, crocodiles, hippos, rival tribesmen (cooked and eaten, remember that ALL slaves were originally captured enemy tribesmen...), lions...

Kim DuToit says that the whole basic problem in Africa is that there are simply so many ways to die young that nobody ever lives long enough to get wise.

34 posted on 12/23/2007 12:50:41 PM PST by damondonion
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To: llevrok

Well, I think we could look to the large cities who have elected black mayor’s for that answer. Furthermore, we have a so called conservative candidate whose qualification is former Mayor. What will his government look like?


35 posted on 12/23/2007 12:52:39 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: llevrok

The problem would be how would he deal with I Slam governments given that he’s a follower of the Religion of Pieces....regardless of any statements to the contrary.


36 posted on 12/23/2007 1:16:40 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

One Nation Under a Groove!


37 posted on 12/23/2007 1:24:04 PM PST by MonicaG (In hoc signo vinces)
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To: llevrok

I’ve been pondering that very question all day and have yet to come up with an answer. Yea, it’ll be entirely different but the real question, which you’ve honed in on is how is the Anglo/European-American population going to handle it. After a great deal of thougt, I’ve pretty much concluded that the vast majority, (60+%) won’t respond in any form because 1) most are too busy making/spending money having been propagandized into endless, pointless work/consumption cycle and because 2) they’ve had it beaten into their heads that to respond in any form, i.e. to open their mouths, is to be “racist”; they’ll never say much of anything.

Another way to look at this question is to ask how will the Blacks respond? I don’t think we’ll see anything outrageous there unless there’s an obvious and drastic drop in support for the gov’t on the part of the Anglo/European American population, which I don’t think we’ll see unless there’s dramatic and drastic change initiated by Obama.

There in lies the real heart of the matter, what will Obama do? If he goes radical anti-white with Reparations, etc., we’re going to see major problems. I have to believe that notwithstanding the awsome dead cat bounce response you get out of the white’s on most stuff, that if he comes after their money and property there will be problems.


38 posted on 12/23/2007 2:03:06 PM PST by glide625
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To: llevrok
The problem with Obama is not that he is black, it is that he is liberal trash, just as the problem with hillary is not that she is a woman.
She is liberal trash.

And I oppose liberal trash, be it a Kennedy, a Jackson, or a clinton.

39 posted on 12/23/2007 3:46:01 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: lapster

‘Yep, New Orleans and Zimbabwe. With Obama, as with all too many black people, color comes first.’

Are you aware that a larger percentage of whites vote for whites than the percentage of blacks voting for blacks? Last poll I saw showed more black voting for Hillary.

Unfortunately, too many of us let our prejudices form our individual reality.

Every black person who come out in support of Obama are attacked solely on the basis of their color. The perception, too prevalent around here, is that a black person cannot form an opinion outside their race...just too (I’m sure many will fill out the blank.

Whites all over the country are supporting white candidates and not once (not once) has anyone opined that their support is based upon their white skin color.


40 posted on 12/23/2007 4:29:11 PM PST by TheInvisibleMan
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To: llevrok
Your comments illustrate why Obama will NOT get the Democratic nomination.

BTW: I take issue with your assuming that Mayor of the Third World City on the East Coast will automatically get the nomination. Besides, being of Southern Italian ancestry, he is a "borderline white" (see also the Greeks, Jews, Armenians, Persians, etc.). ;-)

41 posted on 12/23/2007 4:31:12 PM PST by Clemenza (I NO Heart Huckabee)
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To: Ann Archy
What a racist remark....

Not trying to be racist. It is an academic question.

We say we are a tolerant country. I do have doubts, especially after reading many of these posts, how Americans will react to a largely black inner circle regardless of their governess and political persuasion.

It will be interesting - to say the least.

42 posted on 12/23/2007 6:20:13 PM PST by llevrok ( "In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is freedom. In water, there is bacteria." - Ben Franklin)
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An Obama Presidency is still a stretch. Clinton is currently in the lead nation-wide.

Anyway, an Obama Presidency would still have plenty of European descended Cabinet members and officials. There's little need for those of European descent to wonder whether or not 'their people' will be represented--such a tribal attitude, isn't it?

On a purely racial level--so not including Obama's insane views on some issues and bad views on others--having a President of African descent could be extremely helpful in drawing a large segment of the African descended American population into the mainstream of society. Currently many of that group seem to feel alienated by a European descendant dominated society, and one which still does (to some extent) look down on them. Also, Obama as President would be a symbol to Americans of African and non-European descent that finally a non-[majority]-European descendant has attained the Presidency. He could be an impetus for causing some 'disaffected minorities' to try to socioeconomically advance if they no longer believe that the glass ceiling they perceive is quite as solid as it once was.

Lastly, a President Obama would be a symbol to nations around the world. Latin America might start voting in leaders who physically match their demographics more closely. Other countries might have similar changes in voting in politicians based on appearance.

So, while having Obama as President would be a bad thing, some good could come from his Presidency.

(Now the hard part: reading through the comments without posting responses to those which are found offensive, or attempting to counter or discredit those comments which are flawed and yet could influence easily-swayed people. Just going to ask readers to weigh the arguments and comments closely, including this one, and make your own informed decision).

43 posted on 12/24/2007 3:29:14 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: PLD
"It wouldn’t be the black part that bother me it would be the Muslim part.."

Barack Hussein Obama may have a Muslim heritage but like most democrats......he's an athiest at the core.

44 posted on 12/24/2007 3:34:43 AM PST by Godebert
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To: llevrok
Is America Ready For a Black Government?

Virginia had a black governor some time ago, but Governor Wilder didn’t run as a persecuted black man - he ran as a politician running for office. The race card never showed. I even voted for him.

45 posted on 12/24/2007 3:35:08 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: PLD

How many towns with a majority of blacks have mayors on drugs and riot all the time? What a stupid comment. Haven’t you seen trading places? Our political system is corrupt enough as it is for everyone! And its not because of the system, it’s because power and money corrupt. Ahhhh-humans. :)


46 posted on 12/24/2007 8:18:46 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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